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Re: 2021 Packers Off Season - Rodgers Dilemma 

Post#161 » by RRyder823 » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:07 pm

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jakecronus8 wrote:Very torn with this situation. Part of me says, tough sh*t. See you at training camp or enjoy your budding game show host career, but the other part of me says go ahead and deal him. Send him to a poverty franchise. Grass isn’t always greener and maybe he’d grow a new appreciation for an organization thats run about as well as any in sports. If his motivation is truly to win I don’t think he’s gonna get moved to any better situation than Green Bay. That’s pretty obvious, so to me this whole situation is just primadonna garbage. No one is bigger than the franchise. If they move on I’m ready for it.

100% this, I'm digging all the way in if I'm the Packers here. If he wants to not stay home then fine, let's see what Jordan Love can do.
But what good do you ultimately accomplish with this? I fail to see how by winning this battle with Rodgers how you won't lose the long-term war. If they force his retirement right or wrong they will be painted as the villian by the media and a lot of fans, you'll have an agency that is upset with you and you probably permanently burn a bridge with one of your franchises legends. Plus you just passed on getting major draft capital to end up in the same spot. All that just to prove a point??

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This is the exact type of thinking that has NBA players dictating teams trade them to specific destinations regardless of contract situation.

Thankfully NFL teams still have some balls.

He's 1 year into a 4 year extension that they gave him when he had multiple years left on his deal and they even offered to extend him again. If he's going to pull this crap telling him to either play or retire is the correct answer

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Post#165 » by chonestown » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:19 pm

Still deriving much joy upon learning Rodgers' agent is David Dunn. Tremendous Wisconsin sports fandom crossover upside.
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Post#166 » by CWoodfan » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:30 pm

stillgotgame wrote:Interesting that the media is universally on Rodgers side with this. I've yet to see 1 comment from a legitimate news source saying this is on Rodgers. Not 1.Good article here:.


National media YES, but not the loyal Packer beat guys.

Tom Silverstein had to catch himself on his podcast today when he even admitted he sounded to "pro management."

And Demovsky was busily tweeting yesterday about how the notion that another team called about trading for Rodgers was a complete fantasy -- until national, LA, SF, etc. reporters (and Niner GM John Lynch) proved that spin out of 1265 was bogus.

Think about it for a second.

There are how many Wisconsin-based media folks dedicated to covering the Packers and NOT A SINGLE one of them reported on the Pack's HEAD COACH, PRESIDENT, and GENERAL MANAGER all apparently taking 3 separate flights out to Cali to meet with Rodgers?

What exactly do these guys do in the off-season other than spoon feed the faithful what Packer management wants them to hear.
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Post#167 » by Ill-yasova » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:38 pm

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stillgotgame wrote:Interesting that the media is universally on Rodgers side with this. I've yet to see 1 comment from a legitimate news source saying this is on Rodgers. Not 1.Good article here:.


National media YES, but not the loyal Packer beat guys.

Tom Silverstein had to catch himself on his podcast today when he even admitted he sounded to "pro management."

And Demovsky was busily tweeting yesterday about how the notion that another team called about trading for Rodgers was a complete fantasy -- until national, LA, SF, etc. reporters (and Niner GM John Lynch) proved that spin out of 1265 was bogus.

Think about it for a second.

There are how many Wisconsin-based media folks dedicated to covering the Packers and NOT A SINGLE one of them reported on the Pack's HEAD COACH, PRESIDENT, and GENERAL MANAGER all apparently taking 3 separate flights out to Cali to meet with Rodgers?

What exactly do these guys do in the off-season other than spoon feed the faithful what Packer management wants them to hear.

The organization were the bad guys the second they drafted Love. We saw this same exact story when we drafted Rodgers years and earlier and frankly I don’t give a **** about national perception as long as Love can ball. If he can’t Gute and Murphy better get good value out of a Rodgers trade.
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Re: 2021 Packers Off Season - Rodgers Dilemma 

Post#168 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:42 pm

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stillgotgame wrote:Interesting that the media is universally on Rodgers side with this. I've yet to see 1 comment from a legitimate news source saying this is on Rodgers. Not 1.Good article here:.


National media YES, but not the loyal Packer beat guys.

Tom Silverstein had to catch himself on his podcast today when he even admitted he sounded to "pro management."

And Demovsky was busily tweeting yesterday about how the notion that another team called about trading for Rodgers was a complete fantasy -- until national, LA, SF, etc. reporters (and Niner GM John Lynch) proved that spin out of 1265 was bogus.

Think about it for a second.

There are how many Wisconsin-based media folks dedicated to covering the Packers and NOT A SINGLE one of them reported on the Pack's HEAD COACH, PRESIDENT, and GENERAL MANAGER all apparently taking 3 separate flights out to Cali to meet with Rodgers?

What exactly do these guys do in the off-season other than spoon feed the faithful what Packer management wants them to hear.


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This was the strongest pro Packers take I saw national writer have.

I would be more on Rodgers side if this were still the McCarthy coached Packers with a downswing TT (RIP). But Gute's built a strong roster and hired a clearly excellent coach that has gotten the most out of Rodgers. Rodgers wanting out now, after Gute gave him that extension he didn't need to give, is total crap.
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Post#169 » by HaroldinGMinor » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:53 pm

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but it's very possible Rodgers' camp warned Gutey they were going to go public with stuff if a deal couldn't be reached by the draft.
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Post#170 » by Profound23 » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:54 pm

Gregg Rosenthal hit the nail on the head.

If I'm Davante or Aaron Jones I would take offense to this "Aaron needs more weapons" garbage.
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Post#171 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:55 pm

Of course the media is overwhelmingly taking the player's side. They're vultures who have a vested interest in all this drama and click-bait crap (see: the entire media culture of NBA superstar apologists every time one flees to a new franchise). They love drama and player movement, and especially so when California teams are involved. Morons like Cowherd and other national guys have been spinning this dumb narrative for years that Rodgers should just ask out of GB because they're "not committed to winning" or some other BS.
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Re: 2021 Packers Off Season - Rodgers Dilemma 

Post#172 » by PintSizedBox10 » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:56 pm

Profound23 wrote:Gregg Rosenthal hit the nail on the head.

If I'm Davante or Aaron Jones I would take offense to this "Aaron needs more weapons" garbage.
Who exactly is saying Rodgers needs more weapons? You guys keep repeating a narrative that's coming from random anonymous Twitter users.

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Re: 2021 Packers Off Season - Rodgers Dilemma 

Post#173 » by CWoodfan » Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:01 pm

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I would be more on Rodgers side if this were still the McCarthy coached Packers with a downswing TT (RIP). But Gute's built a strong roster and hired a clearly excellent coach that has gotten the most out of Rodgers. Rodgers wanting out now, after Gute gave him that extension he didn't need to give, is total crap.


I'm not really on anyone's side but you make some good, though incomplete, points.

First, I very much agree the MLF hire was great.

At the same time, the organization kept holdover from MM staff Pettine on as the DC and that led to ... MLF firing him 2 years later. I don't believe for a second that Pettine was MLF's first choice or that he made that decision in a vacuum.

Oh, and I know we never acknowledge Special Teams in GB, but how do you think cheapening out on MLF's preferred STs coach went over in the locker room ... especially after the guy MLF was forced to hire he fired just 2 years later?

And I also agree the Pack has been financially generous to Rodgers. Very generous.

Then again, Rodgers kept his mouth shut while Ted Thompson was probably not medically competent to be performing his GM duties for how long?

And yeah Rodgers had definitely had it by 2018 McCarthy but I mean who hadn't by then?

And how many years did Rodgers keep quiet while Dom was incompetently coordinating all those crappy defenses that featured so many of Ted's 1st and 2nd round pick busts?

I just think the Love selection that officially marked the beginning of the end of the Rodgers' era in Green Bay, the devastating loss at Lambeau in the NFC Title Game, the lack of off-season additions to the roster (because of Rodgers' contract in no small part) brought what I view as a co-dependent relationship of convenience to its natural end.

As Marcedes Lewis just correctly noted, Rodgers pretty much has been the Packers and that has resulted in EXACTLY NO TRIPS TO THE SUPER BOWL over the past decade.

Probably best for all involved to just move on.
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Re: 2021 Packers Off Season - Rodgers Dilemma 

Post#174 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:05 pm

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Turk Nowitzki wrote:100% this, I'm digging all the way in if I'm the Packers here. If he wants to not stay home then fine, let's see what Jordan Love can do.
But what good do you ultimately accomplish with this? I fail to see how by winning this battle with Rodgers how you won't lose the long-term war. If they force his retirement right or wrong they will be painted as the villian by the media and a lot of fans, you'll have an agency that is upset with you and you probably permanently burn a bridge with one of your franchises legends. Plus you just passed on getting major draft capital to end up in the same spot. All that just to prove a point??

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This is the exact type of thinking that has NBA players dictating teams trade them to specific destinations regardless of contract situation.

Thankfully NFL teams still have some balls.

He's 1 year into a 4 year extension that they gave him when he had multiple years left on his deal and they even offered to extend him again. If he's going to pull this crap telling him to either play or retire is the correct answer

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I'm not one that takes a binary stance where the player or team is automatically right in these situations. Each one is unique.

IMO both sides are fine to use the leverage they have under their leagues CBA. Teams don't have a problem threatening to use the franchise tag if I guy won't sign an extension.

In this situation Rodgers leverage is he's old and has a **** ton of money so he can retire. If he was 28 this would be an empty threat, at his age it's very real. Packers leverage is they have him under contract. So yeah they can call his bluff but it he just walks away what 'win' is that for GB? Getting to say you stuck it to the player seems like an empty price with no real upside.

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Post#175 » by Matches Malone » Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:10 pm

Mark Schlereth just said on the McAfee show he had a reliable source tell him yesterday that Aaron Rodgers was close to a done deal to Denver. He then went on to say that Rodgers also texted him saying who are your sources and said I’ll let you know if anything happens. Mark thinks he's done in the Green and Gold. :dontknow:
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Post#176 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:12 pm

Even with the Packers taking Stokes, Denver still obviously has a good main piece in Surtain if they wanted to make the deal. Obviously would still take a 2nd and future 1st.
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Rodger's is the only reason they won 13 games the past 2 years? Get the **** out of here with that nonsense. Hell Rodgers wasn't even that good in 2019.

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Post#179 » by humanrefutation » Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:45 pm

HaroldinGMinor wrote:I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but it's very possible Rodgers' camp warned Gutey they were going to go public with stuff if a deal couldn't be reached by the draft.


Yep, said the same thing yesterday. Clearly, the leak right before the draft wasn't an accident.
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Post#180 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:48 pm

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HaroldinGMinor wrote:I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but it's very possible Rodgers' camp warned Gutey they were going to go public with stuff if a deal couldn't be reached by the draft.


Yep, said the same thing yesterday. Clearly, the leak right before the draft wasn't an accident.

Definitely. The Rodgers camp figured a deal was more likely before the draft and pushed it. And pushed it further by leaking it a few hours before.

I'd sure feel better if we had seen Love play in at least one preseason game, college tape and practice reps aren't much to go on. Preseason is preseason, I get it but at least it's game action against some NFL players.
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