KPJ with 50 point 10 assist game at 20 years old

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Chill. Houston would trade KPJ for either of Garland or Sexton in a heartbeat.

Or perhaps he ends up being better than Sexton and/or Garland. That’s also a possible outcome here.

Anyone can end up being better than anyone. Obviously that’s a theoretical possible outcome. That doesn’t change the fact that no team in the league would rather have KPJ going forward than either of Garland or Sexton.

Kevin Love says Kevin Porter Jr. was ‘by far’ most talented Cavs player, compares him to Russell Westbrook

“I was actually telling Channing [Frye] not too long ago, that if you look at our entire team, and you take Kevin Porter Jr., and you stack him up – he was by far, by far the most talented guy we had on our roster,” Love said.

https://cavaliersnation.com/2021/02/03/kevin-love-says-kevin-porter-jr-was-by-far-most-talented-cavs-player-compares-him-to-russell-westbrook/

[JediMasterRevan]

really wanted Celtics to nab him.

[yoyoboy]

Or perhaps he ends up being better than Sexton and/or Garland. That’s also a possible outcome here.

Anyone can end up being better than anyone. Obviously that’s a theoretical possible outcome. That doesn’t change the fact that no team in the league would rather have KPJ going forward than either of Garland or Sexton.

Kevin Love says Kevin Porter Jr. was ‘by far’ most talented Cavs player, compares him to Russell Westbrook

“I was actually telling Channing [Frye] not too long ago, that if you look at our entire team, and you take Kevin Porter Jr., and you stack him up – he was by far, by far the most talented guy we had on our roster,” Love said.

https://cavaliersnation.com/2021/02/03/kevin-love-says-kevin-porter-jr-was-by-far-most-talented-cavs-player-compares-him-to-russell-westbrook/

I agree, he probably was. Skill, work ethic, and what’s between the ears matters though.

[gmoney411]

Ok, let me rephrase.

"He's a career 31% 3pt shooter who went 9-15 from 3. I'm happy for him and all but this is the definition of something you fluke into."

It's one game. A nice game, but still just one game. It doesn't mean he's a future All Star. It doesn't mean he's a core piece for Houston going forward, or that Cleveland were morons for trading him. It's just a good game.

Well he’s had several other very good games with the Rockets so would argue it isn’t just 1 game. He’s averaging 16/6/4 right now.

20 years old and the Cavs got a 2nd round pick for him. He might do nothing else his entire career and perhaps the Cavs won’t regret it as you said, but as of right now it’s hard to imagine that he isn’t going to have a considerably better career then the 2024 Warriors 2nd round pick. I don’t think that would be a crazy prediction.

If he can keep it together, he'll have a good career. But T. Ross once scored 50 for the Raptors IIRC and didn't turn into an all star. In addition to his off the court issues, he has huge variances in his play. He'll come out and drop 20-30 points and then disappear for a couple games. It's important to remember that he's leading the Rockets to the worst record in the league right now.

He's not really leading the Rockets. He's only played in 23 games and even that's been in stretches. 7 games played then 3 games out. 14 played and then 3 out. Then he played the last 2. And he's doing this where some games Wall is the PG and other games Wall is out and KPJ is the point guard. He's showing flashing while playing in short stretches with a roster that changes almost nightly. Next year he probably will lead the team but it's far from that right now.

[The_Hater]

Well he’s had several other very good games with the Rockets so would argue it isn’t just 1 game. He’s averaging 16/6/4 right now.

20 years old and the Cavs got a 2nd round pick for him. He might do nothing else his entire career and perhaps the Cavs won’t regret it as you said, but as of right now it’s hard to imagine that he isn’t going to have a considerably better career then the 2024 Warriors 2nd round pick. I don’t think that would be a crazy prediction.

If he can keep it together, he'll have a good career. But T. Ross once scored 50 for the Raptors IIRC and didn't turn into an all star. In addition to his off the court issues, he has huge variances in his play. He'll come out and drop 20-30 points and then disappear for a couple games. It's important to remember that he's leading the Rockets to the worst record in the league right now.

He's not really leading the Rockets. He's only played in 23 games and even that's been in stretches. 7 games played then 3 games out. 14 played and then 3 out. Then he played the last 2. And he's doing this where some games Wall is the PG and other games Wall is out and KPJ is the point guard. He's showing flashing while playing in short stretches with a roster that changes almost nightly. Next year he probably will lead the team but it's far from that right now.

The Rockets have been fairly rudderless all season. Dipo didn’t want the reigns and apparently Wall and Wood aren’t exactly getting along. Giving the reigns to an immature 20 year old next season probably isn’t the best idea either. He needs some veteran leadership around him to reach his potential, they can’t just toss him the keys or it will be a disaster.

[gmoney411]

If he can keep it together, he'll have a good career. But T. Ross once scored 50 for the Raptors IIRC and didn't turn into an all star. In addition to his off the court issues, he has huge variances in his play. He'll come out and drop 20-30 points and then disappear for a couple games. It's important to remember that he's leading the Rockets to the worst record in the league right now.

He's not really leading the Rockets. He's only played in 23 games and even that's been in stretches. 7 games played then 3 games out. 14 played and then 3 out. Then he played the last 2. And he's doing this where some games Wall is the PG and other games Wall is out and KPJ is the point guard. He's showing flashing while playing in short stretches with a roster that changes almost nightly. Next year he probably will lead the team but it's far from that right now.

The Rockets have been fairly rudderless all season. Dipo didn’t want the reigns and apparently Wall and Wood aren’t exactly getting along. Giving the reigns to an immature 20 year old next season probably isn’t the best idea either. He needs some veteran leadership around him to reach his potential, they can’t just toss him the keys or it will be a disaster.

I agree they need veterans but unless they keep their pick the team should be KPJ's as far as on the court goes. Silas has been around a lot of young PGs and is suited for the job. John Lucas is on the staff and he knows personal struggles as well as anybody in the league. They will have a real off season to get things straight.

[The_Hater]

He's not really leading the Rockets. He's only played in 23 games and even that's been in stretches. 7 games played then 3 games out. 14 played and then 3 out. Then he played the last 2. And he's doing this where some games Wall is the PG and other games Wall is out and KPJ is the point guard. He's showing flashing while playing in short stretches with a roster that changes almost nightly. Next year he probably will lead the team but it's far from that right now.

The Rockets have been fairly rudderless all season. Dipo didn’t want the reigns and apparently Wall and Wood aren’t exactly getting along. Giving the reigns to an immature 20 year old next season probably isn’t the best idea either. He needs some veteran leadership around him to reach his potential, they can’t just toss him the keys or it will be a disaster.

I agree they need veterans but unless they keep their pick the team should be KPJ's as far as on the court goes. Silas has been around a lot of young PGs and is suited for the job. John Lucas is on the staff and he knows personal struggles as well as anybody in the league. They will have a real off season to get things straight.

Their biggest problem is likely Wall. His contract will be difficult to move without taking bad money back, he likely doesn’t want to be there and he seems to have this ego that says ‘I’m still an all-star’ when he plays. He seems more into being that guy then the veteran who is going to help all the young players mature and improve. And as long as he is there, he’s playing Porter’s position. They’d almost be better off if he missed another full season.

[AbeVigodaLive]

So many people trying to hate on a 20 year old who just dropped a historic game against a contender. Plus he was guarded by an elite defender in Jrue Holiday and still lit him up. Even Luka has never dropped 50 points in a game before and he's 2 years older.

Two ways to look at it...

1) Amazing game. There's no ceiling for this type of player.
2) How in the world can a guy, even at 20, go 2 - 12 one night... and then for 50 the next?

With a guy like Porter... with serious locker room and legal issues in each of the past 3 seasons... there might be more attention than usual behind such inconsistency,

[Dominator83]

A shtshow of a season and a boatload of losses for the Rockets this year but on the low their GM has made some damn good moves.
Getting C Woods for cheap, finding Jaesean Tate, getting KPJ for a bag of cheetos dust.

And I'm still not sure how they got more than a sack of nickles for 36 year old PJ Tucker.

Yea but he also basically traded Caris Levert and Jarrett Allen for Oladipo, who they got nothing for

[JonFromVA]

Let's try not to forget that 30 teams understood Kevin had top of the lottery level talent and 29 teams passed on this kid ... TWICE.

Even the Cavs decided to take a pass on him with their 24th pick, and drafted Dylan Windler instead.

The Cavs wanted to send him to a team where he could get help, but I doubt they would have passed if another team offered them anything beyond assuming his salary.

[K_chile22]

:(

A shtshow of a season and a boatload of losses for the Rockets this year but on the low their GM has made some damn good moves.
Getting C Woods for cheap, finding Jaesean Tate, getting KPJ for a bag of cheetos dust.

And I'm still not sure how they got more than a sack of nickles for 36 year old PJ Tucker.

Yea but he also basically traded Caris Levert and Jarrett Allen for Oladipo, who they got nothing for

They got a FRP and a pick swap

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[jbk1234]

Let's try not to forget that 30 teams understood Kevin had top of the lottery level talent and 29 teams passed on this kid ... TWICE.

Even the Cavs decided to take a pass on him with their 24th pick, and drafted Dylan Windler instead.

The Cavs wanted to send him to a team where he could get help, but I doubt they would have passed if another team offered them anything beyond assuming his salary.

The Spurs also passed on him twice.

[JonFromVA]

Let's try not to forget that 30 teams understood Kevin had top of the lottery level talent and 29 teams passed on this kid ... TWICE.

Even the Cavs decided to take a pass on him with their 24th pick, and drafted Dylan Windler instead.

The Cavs wanted to send him to a team where he could get help, but I doubt they would have passed if another team offered them anything beyond assuming his salary.

The Spurs also passed on him twice.

Well, if we want to get technical about it, the Spurs passed on him 3x: twice in the draft, and once when they decided not to trade for him. Boston passed on him 4x.

[gmoney411]

The Rockets have been fairly rudderless all season. Dipo didn’t want the reigns and apparently Wall and Wood aren’t exactly getting along. Giving the reigns to an immature 20 year old next season probably isn’t the best idea either. He needs some veteran leadership around him to reach his potential, they can’t just toss him the keys or it will be a disaster.

I agree they need veterans but unless they keep their pick the team should be KPJ's as far as on the court goes. Silas has been around a lot of young PGs and is suited for the job. John Lucas is on the staff and he knows personal struggles as well as anybody in the league. They will have a real off season to get things straight.

Their biggest problem is likely Wall. His contract will be difficult to move without taking bad money back, he likely doesn’t want to be there and he seems to have this ego that says ‘I’m still an all-star’ when he plays. He seems more into being that guy then the veteran who is going to help all the young players mature and improve. And as long as he is there, he’s playing Porter’s position. They’d almost be better off if he missed another full season.

I really have no idea what they are going to do with Wall. You can't keep staring him if he's hurting the team and the rebuild.

[hippesthippo]

Best Porter Jr?

Best Porter Jr. brother.

[hippesthippo]

Remember when Rodrigue Beaubois dropped 40 on Steph Curry?

Roddy B was a waiver-wire superstar for me way back when.

[vagelis]

Porter has some similarities with Harden in his game

[Jakay]

Is this dude like a poor man's 2021 version of Monta Ellis?

KPJ have it mostly

[Dan Z]

:(

A shtshow of a season and a boatload of losses for the Rockets this year but on the low their GM has made some damn good moves.
Getting C Woods for cheap, finding Jaesean Tate, getting KPJ for a bag of cheetos dust.

And I'm still not sure how they got more than a sack of nickles for 36 year old PJ Tucker.

Yea but he also basically traded Caris Levert and Jarrett Allen for Oladipo, who they got nothing for

Trading Westbrook for Wall hasn't looked so good either, but I guess they preferred a pick and tank season.