2021 Packers News, Trades, Transactions - Sternberger Released

[stillgotgame]

If it comes to trading Rodgers the most important part of the trade is a bridge quarterback

lol

context man, give me a break

[JayMKE]

Key question IMO: who is easier to replace, Gute or Rodgers?

Gute is easier to "replace" but the problem is that Gute has presided over two 13-3 teams that went the NFC title game each year. Is Gute a great GM? Don't know, but think he's proven he's not a bad GM.

And as this decision relates to Rodgers, think over these two things.

a) Did A-Rod do so well last year because the stadiums were empty? Let's face it, any distractions drive the guy crazy. Might have been a perfect storm last season, never to be repeated.

b) Can the Packers hire quality front office people if they simply can the GM whose team went 13-3 the past two years? Rodgers AND the organization would be viewed as a villain by a lot of people here and nationally if they just drop-kicked Gute to the curb.

I don’t think we’re going 13-3 and the NFC champiobship without Rodgers tho. Gute and the organization look like the villain here and nationally to a lot of people too, there isn’t going to be way the organization doesn’t look bad but the worst of the worst would be Rodgers winning an MVP/superbowl somewhere else. Rodgers isn’t saying trade Love, that succession plan can stay in place and there would be far far less pressure on Love then cause right now if he sucks he’s going to get booed off the field. So how much do you guys really like Love?

Gute screwed up pissing off Rodgers to such a degree, its a fireable offense. Managing the personalities of your star players is part of his job and its on the GM to maintain their confidence. Firing Gute is path of least resistance and gives us the best chance to win. I think Packer fans would get over it fine, nobody is wearing his jersey and I doubt most fans even know who Gute given his short tenure and more visible prominent FO figures like Murphy and MLF.

As for the empty stadium thing, true or not its not like we’re going to be seeing full stadiums any time soon. I think that would probably matter way more to young QB.

[JayMKE]

Key question IMO: who is easier to replace, Gute or Rodgers?

This is business, can’t make it personal. Sure Rodgers is acting like a total diva/may have some legit beefs, but he’s also an MVP QB (last year). Gute seems like a decent, middling GM. Can his ass and take 2 more swings at the Super Bowl, imo.

I know it upsets our Midwestern sensibilities, but look at it this way. Gute made a huge bet against Rodgers. Placed his whole stake on it. He lost spectacularly. Rodgers won. Lose a bet like that? Lose your seat at the table.

Thats what it comes down to, Gute loss and Rodgers won and ironically picking Love put the chip on Rodgers’ shoulder to do it and he even had a chance at making nice with an extension and restructured deal. We’re not having this conversation if Rodgers wasn’t in MVP form last year but he did and I see no reason not expect him to do it again here or somewhere else. Love as succession plan can stay in place if Gute gets fired. Best chance to win, just business.

[M-C-G]

There's no reason to bring in another QB unless it's a (very) cheap backup for Love. There's no way Bridgewater would start over Love.

All depends on how much he has developed. I don't think there was ever a plan for him to start this next offseason.

[ReasonablySober]

Managing the personalities of your star players is part of his job and its on the GM to maintain their confidence.

Rodgers went out and won the MVP. Give Gute a lifetime contract.

[ReasonablySober]

There's no reason to bring in another QB unless it's a (very) cheap backup for Love. There's no way Bridgewater would start over Love.

All depends on how much he has developed. I don't think there was ever a plan for him to start this next offseason.

Given the structure of Rodgers' deal I'd assume it was in '22. But I haven't seen a suggestion of anyone who would be a better stop gap.

Drew Lock?

[M-C-G]

There's no reason to bring in another QB unless it's a (very) cheap backup for Love. There's no way Bridgewater would start over Love.

All depends on how much he has developed. I don't think there was ever a plan for him to start this next offseason.

Given the structure of Rodgers' deal I'd assume it was in '22. But I haven't seen a suggestion of anyone who would be a better stop gap.

Drew Lock?

I think Bridgewater would be the play for a couple reasons;
1. He is a vet that kind of fits in the game manager role, which our offense seems to like
2. You don't put Love in the same exact situation as Rodgers where he is hated immediately by fans
3. If Bridgewater is decent, it gives you proper time to let Love develop, and if he isn't you have hungry fans that want to see the kid play
4. Unless we are talking Alex Smith or Josh McCown out of retirement, this crop of QBs left on the market stinks, Bridgewater would be fine enough, but you could talk me into Lock...just doesn't make as much sense to me.

[hege53190]

I just can’t get over Rodgers to Tee Higgins last year with a corner selected at 136.

The trade was a wtf moment in real time and has turned into a **** a year later.

It was also not the same as the Favre situation.

Favre hadn’t been in the NFC championship game for a while.

Favre had threatened retirement for 2 years in a row. Rodgers has stated he wants to play into his 40’s.

Rodgers was a projected top 2 pick that slipped to 24. Love was a projected second rounder who the Packers traded up to get.

All this has probably been said. But I just don’t understand how you go to the NFC championship game, then draft two 3rd guy on the depth chart with your first two picks when you have significant holes at other positions. One of which won’t play a snap for you.

[ReasonablySober]

All depends on how much he has developed. I don't think there was ever a plan for him to start this next offseason.

Given the structure of Rodgers' deal I'd assume it was in '22. But I haven't seen a suggestion of anyone who would be a better stop gap.

Drew Lock?

I think Bridgewater would be the play for a couple reasons;
1. He is a vet that kind of fits in the game manager role, which our offense seems to like
2. You don't put Love in the same exact situation as Rodgers where he is hated immediately by fans
3. If Bridgewater is decent, it gives you proper time to let Love develop, and if he isn't you have hungry fans that want to see the kid play
4. Unless we are talking Alex Smith or Josh McCown out of retirement, this crop of QBs left on the market stinks, Bridgewater would be fine enough, but you could talk me into Luck...just doesn't make as much sense to me.

Love's got a year in the system and the talent of a 1st rounder. There's no reason to bring in a **** stop gap. Even if the first year is rough (Rodgers went 6-10 in his first season) you have the benefit of a high draft pick to help him out. The Packers went 11-5 the next season.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I don’t buy a guy with real talent has to sit for 2-3 years, some more learning on the job maybe but why would it ruin them assuming they stay healthy? I don’t think Rodgers would have been a scrub if he had started earlier. If Love is a talent like Favre or Rodgers I think it will be evident pretty quickly, if he’s not ready for risk of ruining him in year 2 then he’s gonna figure it out year 3? You either believe in the guy or you don’t

Jeez dont get started on midwest manners

Agree. In today's NFL we see rookie QBs be successful more than ever before. Probably because colleges throw more and the NFL rules are easier on them than back in the 90s. I do understand how sitting one year can help some guys because it gives them time to adjust to life as a pro and learn the playbook. But after that I'd say for most guys actually playing and learning with live bullets is the best thing for their development. The exception would be if your Oline is trash and they get killed week after week, that can break a guy.

If Rodgers played year two I think he still has the same career but hell he might have been MVP level a little sooner. He was alright his first season but not great, he needed those live reps before he really took off.

I know we hear excuses when QBs bust that they played too soon but most likely that guy bust regardless. Half of 1st round QBs bust that's just the reality of how this works.

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[RRyder823]

I don’t buy a guy with real talent has to sit for 2-3 years, some more learning on the job maybe but why would it ruin them assuming they stay healthy? I don’t think Rodgers would have been a scrub if he had started earlier. If Love is a talent like Favre or Rodgers I think it will be evident pretty quickly, if he’s not ready for risk of ruining him in year 2 then he’s gonna figure it out year 3? You either believe in the guy or you don’t

Jeez dont get started on midwest manners

Why is that? Rodgers looked like he sucked his first couple years in GB



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[M-C-G]

Given the structure of Rodgers' deal I'd assume it was in '22. But I haven't seen a suggestion of anyone who would be a better stop gap.

Drew Lock?

I think Bridgewater would be the play for a couple reasons;
1. He is a vet that kind of fits in the game manager role, which our offense seems to like
2. You don't put Love in the same exact situation as Rodgers where he is hated immediately by fans
3. If Bridgewater is decent, it gives you proper time to let Love develop, and if he isn't you have hungry fans that want to see the kid play
4. Unless we are talking Alex Smith or Josh McCown out of retirement, this crop of QBs left on the market stinks, Bridgewater would be fine enough, but you could talk me into Luck...just doesn't make as much sense to me.

Love's got a year in the system and the talent of a 1st rounder. There's no reason to bring in a **** stop gap. Even if the first year is rough (Rodgers went 6-10 in his first season) you have the benefit of a high draft pick to help him out. The Packers went 11-5 the next season.

Yeah, let's just disagree. I think they wanted a year or two of development for Love before trying to make him replace Rodgers. I'm for doing him an additional favor which is let someone else be the direct replacement for Rodgers and take that heat off him.

I remember being at Rodgers first pre season game after Favre was traded and he was booed coming out of the tunnel. Let a vet take that heat IMO. Having to replace Rodgers is too enough, having to do it when you may not be coached up (no preseason or OTAs last year), just has me wanting to wait. Even if you decided sometime midseason, that is fine with me.

[sdn40]

There's no reason to bring in another QB unless it's a (very) cheap backup for Love. There's no way Bridgewater would start over Love.

All depends on how much he has developed. I don't think there was ever a plan for him to start this next offseason.

Given the structure of Rodgers' deal I'd assume it was in '22. But I haven't seen a suggestion of anyone who would be a better stop gap.

Drew Lock?

This is the part that keeps getting glossed over IMO.

If I'm a Top 5 QB and the team wants to keep my contract at basically a year to year thing - I tell them to go pound sand. If you want me year to year, pay me a humongous premium for that convenience. I'm not Kevin King. And at this point, I'm not on anybody's side, and figure there are essential details to this story we may or may not ever find out

[M-C-G]

If I'm a Top 5 QB and the team wants to keep my contract at basically a year to year thing - I tell them to go pound sand. If you want me year to year, pay me a humongous premium for that convenience. I'm not Kevin King

A premium like getting an extension to be the highest paid QB in the league??

[WeekapaugGroove]

I read Jeff Pearlmans Gunslinger Favre biography earlier this year and it gave some good insight on those final days.

Favre hated TT. Some was for presonell decisions but it was also because TT stopped some of the preferential treatment. The team had been covering up and enabling a lot of **** with Brett for years.

The Rodgers and Favre dynamic was really bad especially early on and it did have an impact on the locker room. Some of the younger guys at other positions hated Brett.

The Pack were absolutely ready to move on to Rodgers that final year. The biggest mistake they made was their apprehension to him playing elsewhere. The bribe to not play was dumb as hell. When Brett expressed he changed his mind and wanted to come back they should have just immediately traded him and saved themselves the circus.

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[RRyder823]

I just can’t get over Rodgers to Tee Higgins last year with a corner selected at 136.

The trade was a wtf moment in real time and has turned into a **** a year later.

It was also not the same as the Favre situation.

Favre hadn’t been in the NFC championship game for a while.

Favre had threatened retirement for 2 years in a row. Rodgers has stated he wants to play into his 40’s.

Rodgers was a projected top 2 pick that slipped to 24. Love was a projected second rounder who the Packers traded up to get.

All this has probably been said. But I just don’t understand how you go to the NFC championship game, then draft two 3rd guy on the depth chart with your first two picks when you have significant holes at other positions. One of which won’t play a snap for you.

Huh? Do you not remember his last game as a Packer?

This continues to be a dumb argument but one that likes to get used. Rodgers was in the conversation to be drafted #1 NOT because he, or Smith, were considered the best players in the draft but solely because they were the only QB that had 1st round grades. It's the reason why his slide became apparent after Miami passed on him as if a team wasn't desperately in need of a QB at that point they were going elsewhere. (Also there were projections for Love going like 6 overall so tell me again how he was a 2nd round prospect).





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[BUCKnation]

I rather just roll with Love if were thinking about getting Bridgewater. We wouldn't be winning anything with him anyways, easily one of the most overrated QB's in the league.

[FAH1223]

Rodgers for Russell Wilson.

Aaron plays with great WRs. Russ plays with a good OL.

Only trade I'd like to see, tbh.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Rodgers for Russell Wilson.

Aaron plays with great WRs. Russ plays with a good OL.

Only trade I'd like to see, tbh.

Wilson's wife forcing his way out of Seattle only to end up in Green Bay would be **** hilarious.

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[Profound23]

I understand both point-of-views. Nobody is 100% correct in this debacle. However, I think Rodgers is more in the wrong here.

You don't allow a player to dictate how you run your front office. With that said if they fired Gute to hire John Dorsey I would love it.