playa-hater wrote:31to6 wrote:JediMasterRevan wrote:
Who is a reasonable trade target, if one was to move Brown.
Beal? I kind of value brown as more long term than Beal. Brown this season is shooting better than beal from 2 and is shooting better on more attempts from 3. Brown also rebounds and defends better than Beal. Beal is the better passer.
KAT? 1 dimensional center who has never shown he can win yet in his career. A strong Maybe but I personally have Brown as at least an equal to KAT in regards to winning.
Heading into the trade deadline I started proposing Brown for Sabonis. Not sure how I feel about it, for either team really, but if we both flame out this season maybe that's about equivalent value.
dang I thought i was first with that idea.
But a frontcourt of Tatum, Sabonis Timelord + Nesmith, PP at guards looks beautiful to me.
Isn't the reason why the Pacers are entertaining offers for Sabonis, because the double big lineup (Sabonis + Turner) doesn't work? Sabonis and Turner haven't been a good fit. So why would Sabonis + Time Lord be a good fit? You would think that Sabonis + Turner would actually be a better fit than Sabonis + Time Lord, since Turner has the ability stretch the floor with his 3 point shot and Time Lord does not.
Unless you trade Brown for Sabonis. And you also trade Time Lord (either in that same deal or possibly in a separate deal). I like Time Lord, I like his energy and what he brings to the team on both ends of the floor. But obviously he has had injury concerns and has yet to prove that he can handle starter minutes without getting hurt. Perhaps you move him this summer, while his perceived value is still so high.
There were rumors right before the deadline that Indiana was open to moving Sabonis and Brogdon.
https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/03/23/pacers-listening-to-trade-offers-for-malcolm-brogdon-domantas-sabonis/So maybe you do:
Celtics get:
Sabonis
Brogdon
Pacers get:
Brown
Time Lord
Then the question becomes, can you have both Brogdon and Kemba on the same team? Defensively I'd say yes, since Brogdon has good size at 6'5" so it's not like you're playing to tiny dudes out there on D. Offensively, I think Brogdon is the better playmaker since he has a higher assist % (26% assist rate for Brogdon, 24% assist rate for Kemba) on lower usage (both at 26% usage) plus you have to figure Brogdon's assist % might go up a little on a better team.
So you either play Brogdon at the 1 (on offense) and Kemba at the 2, or you make Kemba the 6th man coming in off the bench with high energy and scoring punch or you move Kemba in a separate deal (Pacers wouldn't want Kemba, they said reason why they're open to moving Brogdon is because they think Levert can be their PG (and they have a good backup in McConnell)....if you move Kemba in a separate deal, it's ok because you still have Pritchard (and Madar if we bring him over) at backup PG. But if you trade for Brogdon and keep Kemba (and if. Madar comes over this summer and looks good in summer league) then I think either Pritchard or Madar becomes expendable and you could improve elsewhere on the roster by trading 1 of them and keeping the other as 3rd string PG after Brogdon and Kemba..
Maybe you really go wild and trade Kemba to Toronto for Siakam. Their contracts are pretty similar. Obviously Ainge has been trying to trade Kemba and Toronto is trying to trade Siakam:
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/article/siakam-outburst-reveals-another-crack-raptors-tensions-high/If both trades go down, you're left with:
C Sabonis
F Siakam
F Tatum
G Smart
G Brogdon
6th man: Fournier
Rest of bench: Nesmith, Thompson, Pritchard, Langford, Parker
That squad would be scary good.
Not sure if we'd be over the cap or not, though. If we need to shed salary, you try to trade Thompson and then have Kornet be your discount backup center. That would be my move to shed salary instead of choosing to not resign Fournier. Fournier gives you scoring depth, he gives you shooting, he gives you spacing and he has been solid on D, solid passing. Just not sure if he would be happy as a 5th/6th option here, and if that's all he is going to be here than someone else will probably be willing to pay him more.
Sabonis + Siakam could be a good pairing, as both guys can stretch the floor and shoot the 3, and Siakam has the quickness on D to switch onto smaller guys (moreso than Turner), Siakam is a prototypical 4 man in the modern NBA so it's not like him and Sabonis would even be a double big lineup.
Plus in this scenario Tatum moves to his more natural position of the 3 instead of the 4. Which means less banging around he'll have to do with 4's like Siakam, Collins, Giannis, Davis, Crowder, Marcus Morris, Covington, etc. But then again, I'm not sure what is better off for Tatum health-wise, play him at the 3 and avoid banging around with those bigger guys or play him at the 3 and which the downside there is him having to possibly use up more energy chasing around faster guys..