Race to the bottom: Who's our biggest competition?

[Manocad]

Here’s some quotes from the Magic’s board. They aren’t wrong. If you actually watched it, there is no way you can think otherwise.

All i got out of that, was that the Magic board should be shut down for someone saying "finned".

that's interesting that's the only thing you understood out of that

Exactly. Because those posts clearly screamed sour grapes about as loudly as they could.

[The Moose]

6 games left

We are safe if we go 1-5, 2-4 could potentially drop us a long way.

[bstein14]

The tank rolls on! 19-47 with just six games left. Cleveland actually took Phoenix to OT before getting outscored 20-4 in the 5th quarter. OKC looking like a L tonight as well, but it doesn't matter too much if we keep losing.

[KillMonger]

All i got out of that, was that the Magic board should be shut down for someone saying "finned".

that's interesting that's the only thing you understood out of that

Exactly. Because those posts clearly screamed sour grapes about as loudly as they could.

not if you watched the game

[zeebneeb]

Next game is against Memphis in a back to back after they play Orlando. Best case is Orlando beats them bringing Orlando to 22 wins, and then Memphis, desperate to stay in the race, beats Detroit.

Tank is looking good people. Stay the course, keep calm and carry on.

[The Moose]

Next game is against Memphis in a back to back after they play Orlando. Best case is Orlando beats them bringing Orlando to 22 wins, and then Memphis, desperate to stay in the race, beats Detroit.

Tank is looking good people. Stay the course, keep calm and carry on.

They are playing Minnesota but its same point. If Minnesota beats them we have a 2 game gap between everyone else

[NYPiston]

The Pistons getting nothing from the out of town scoreboard again. This illustrates how insanely tough it is to win a tank battle in this league. They were this close the last two nights to being in a tie for 6th. The margin for error is razor thin.

Essentially, they have a buffer of 1 win hopefully not against the Wolves which would guarantee 2nd place. 2 wins or more and it's probably up to the tiebreakers because the Cavs, Thunder and Magic could easily lose out. The good thing is that the Pistons now control their destiny even with 1 win against anybody but the Wolves.

[Manocad]

that's interesting that's the only thing you understood out of that

Exactly. Because those posts clearly screamed sour grapes about as loudly as they could.

not if you watched the game

Whether or not I watched the game, which I did, has nothing to do with Orlando fans being salty about being out-tanked. You're griping about the Pistons playing like they didn't want to win because you didn't want the Magic to win.

[KillMonger]

Exactly. Because those posts clearly screamed sour grapes about as loudly as they could.

not if you watched the game

Whether or not I watched the game, which I did, has nothing to do with Orlando fans being salty about being out-tanked. You're griping about the Pistons playing like they didn't want to win because you didn't want the Magic to win.

i didn't want to win...there is that....but then there is what i saw at the end of that game which i've never seen a professional team do in my life....at that point it isn't about tanking it's about whether you have heart or not...i mean you guys were down 6 with plenty of time left and just quit like i've never seen a team quit....i mean hurray for you i guess...it doesn't matter really since Houston out-tanked everybody

[Manocad]

not if you watched the game

Whether or not I watched the game, which I did, has nothing to do with Orlando fans being salty about being out-tanked. You're griping about the Pistons playing like they didn't want to win because you didn't want the Magic to win.

i didn't want to win...there is that....but then there is what i saw at the end of that game which i've never seen a professional team do in my life....at that point it isn't about tanking it's about whether you have heart or not...i mean you guys were down 6 with plenty of time left and just quit like i've never seen a team quit....i mean hurray for you i guess...it doesn't matter really since Houston out-tanked everybody

If it doesn’t really matter why are you still crying? And why would you care if a team you don’t follow has no heart? You wouldn’t. Admit that you’re salty about Orlando winning and move along.

[DetroitSho]

not if you watched the game

Whether or not I watched the game, which I did, has nothing to do with Orlando fans being salty about being out-tanked. You're griping about the Pistons playing like they didn't want to win because you didn't want the Magic to win.

i didn't want to win...there is that....but then there is what i saw at the end of that game which i've never seen a professional team do in my life....at that point it isn't about tanking it's about whether you have heart or not...i mean you guys were down 6 with plenty of time left and just quit like i've never seen a team quit....i mean hurray for you i guess...it doesn't matter really since Houston out-tanked everybody

Hyperbole much?

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[NYPiston]

i didn't want to win...there is that....but then there is what i saw at the end of that game which i've never seen a professional team do in my life....at that point it isn't about tanking it's about whether you have heart or not...i mean you guys were down 6 with plenty of time left and just quit like i've never seen a team quit....i mean hurray for you i guess...it doesn't matter really since Houston out-tanked everybody

They were down by 6 with a minute to go without all their vets. It wasn't like the game was hanging in the balance.

[KillMonger]

Whether or not I watched the game, which I did, has nothing to do with Orlando fans being salty about being out-tanked. You're griping about the Pistons playing like they didn't want to win because you didn't want the Magic to win.

i didn't want to win...there is that....but then there is what i saw at the end of that game which i've never seen a professional team do in my life....at that point it isn't about tanking it's about whether you have heart or not...i mean you guys were down 6 with plenty of time left and just quit like i've never seen a team quit....i mean hurray for you i guess...it doesn't matter really since Houston out-tanked everybody

If it doesn’t really matter why are you still crying? And why would you care if a team you don’t follow has no heart? You wouldn’t. Admit that you’re salty about Orlando winning and move along.

nobody is crying man it's not that deep, this is like a conversation about who's crap smells worse......you win brodie

[zeebneeb]

Salt from the Orlando board is expected at this point, I just didn't expect it from an innocuous comment about a funny spelling error. I mean, I get it, the Magic have basically become a farm team for the rest of the league in terms of;

They draft them, get them game experience, and develop them, and then trade them for draft picks. I just don't understand the Magics leadership or what plan they have(Mo was #6 pick to a bad team, and couldn't get minutes. How bad does a team have to get to play their draft picks?)so their fans will get restless, and basically pissed off by the team never going anywhere.

As for the tank, if the Pistons stay put at #2, the lowest they can go is 6. Would i have liked the lowest they can go is 5? Sure, but if the Pistons can't get a top 3 pick with this bad of a record, then its on to next year.

A bunch of big games for the tank tonight. The Wolves winning would go a long way in helping the cause putting them at 21 wins, meaning the Pistons would have a full 2 game margin between them and #3.(It would also help motivate Memphis in destroying the Pistons on the second game of a back to back)

I've pretty much given up on catching Houston. They would have to win 2 in a row to catch my eye, and that seems all but impossible at this point.

[Manocad]

i didn't want to win...there is that....but then there is what i saw at the end of that game which i've never seen a professional team do in my life....at that point it isn't about tanking it's about whether you have heart or not...i mean you guys were down 6 with plenty of time left and just quit like i've never seen a team quit....i mean hurray for you i guess...it doesn't matter really since Houston out-tanked everybody

If it doesn’t really matter why are you still crying? And why would you care if a team you don’t follow has no heart? You wouldn’t. Admit that you’re salty about Orlando winning and move along.

nobody is crying man it's not that deep, this is like a conversation about who's crap smells worse......you win brodie

So you've admitted it wasn't a conversation worth starting, which YOU did. Great. You can move along now.

[DCintheD]

Worried about Jerami Grant coming back. Hopefully it’s so Philly doesn’t rest their starters against us. I wonder if Plumlee, Ellington, and the rest of vets come back too. The tank game can be confusing.

[A_dub06]

:lol:
So let me see if I have this right...we’ve got someone whining that Casey is going to screw up the tank by trying hard to win, and when I point out that since the Pistons have the second worst record there’s little evidence to support that idea, the answer is that the second worst record is because the team sucks and has nothing to do with Casey.

Now read that again, really slowly, and see if you can identify why that argument buries itself.

We have the 2nd worst record due to the our past gm’s roster construction and weavers, that had nothing to do with Casey. Bad rosters will lose many games by virtue of their lack of talent or inexperience. Bad rosters can still win some games, and when it’s close this late in the season to truly tank your coach NEEDS to be on board with that since it’s basically a game of chicken of who can put out the worst lineups and setups to fail while the prize at the end of the road is draft lottery standings.

My initial post was about we need to be worried since the margin is so close and I don’t think Casey is committed to tanking. What I saw against the magic was inexperienced players learning via trial by fire but even if it was tanking, using one game as the basis for concluding Casey supports us tanking is flimsy at best.

[DetroitSho]

Man the amount of pointless conversation that's gone on the last couple days. BOY!!!

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[Manocad]

:lol:
So let me see if I have this right...we’ve got someone whining that Casey is going to screw up the tank by trying hard to win, and when I point out that since the Pistons have the second worst record there’s little evidence to support that idea, the answer is that the second worst record is because the team sucks and has nothing to do with Casey.

Now read that again, really slowly, and see if you can identify why that argument buries itself.

We have the 2nd worst record due to the our past gm’s roster construction and weavers, that had nothing to do with Casey. Bad rosters will lose many games by virtue of their lack of talent or inexperience. Bad rosters can still win some games, and when it’s close this late in the season to truly tank your coach NEEDS to be on board with that since it’s basically a game of chicken of who can put out the worst lineups and setups to fail while the prize at the end of the road is draft lottery standings.

My initial post was about we need to be worried since the margin is so close and I don’t think Casey is committed to tanking. What I saw against the magic was inexperienced players learning via trial by fire but even if it was tanking, using one game as the basis for concluding Casey supports us tanking is flimsy at best.

Let me try it this way since you still don't see the contradiction in your argument.

If the reason the Pistons have the second worst record is because of their roster, and not due to Casey being committed to the tank (or not committed to it),

THEN

IT

DOESN'T

MATTER

WHAT

CASEY'S

COMMITMENT

IS.

Get it now? You can't claim that Casey is going to screw up the tank, i.e. have an impact on the team record, then go on to say that the current second worst record is because of Weaver/the roster and nothing to do with Casey, i.e. he has no impact on the team record. Pick one or the other; it can't be both.

[DetroitSho]

So let me see if I have this right...we’ve got someone whining that Casey is going to screw up the tank by trying hard to win, and when I point out that since the Pistons have the second worst record there’s little evidence to support that idea, the answer is that the second worst record is because the team sucks and has nothing to do with Casey.

Now read that again, really slowly, and see if you can identify why that argument buries itself.

We have the 2nd worst record due to the our past gm’s roster construction and weavers, that had nothing to do with Casey. Bad rosters will lose many games by virtue of their lack of talent or inexperience. Bad rosters can still win some games, and when it’s close this late in the season to truly tank your coach NEEDS to be on board with that since it’s basically a game of chicken of who can put out the worst lineups and setups to fail while the prize at the end of the road is draft lottery standings.

My initial post was about we need to be worried since the margin is so close and I don’t think Casey is committed to tanking. What I saw against the magic was inexperienced players learning via trial by fire but even if it was tanking, using one game as the basis for concluding Casey supports us tanking is flimsy at best.

Let me try it this way since you still don't see the contradiction in your argument.

If the reason the Pistons have the second worst record is because of their roster, and not due to Casey being committed to the tank (or not committed to it),

THEN

IT

DOESN'T

MATTER

WHAT

CASEY'S

COMMITMENT

IS.

Get it now? You can't claim that Casey is going to screw up the tank, i.e. have an impact on the team record, then go on to say that the current second worst record is because of Weaver/the roster and nothing to do with Casey, i.e. he has no impact on the team record. Pick one or the other; it can't be both.

*Awaits the mental gymnastics in response*

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