Injuries: Pre-All Star Break

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https://www.nba.com/bulls/features/ask-docs-turf-toe.html

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Williams cannot stay healthy.

[BillessuR6]

Williams and Langford??? These two guys just can not stay healthy...

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Looks like they fired up the 'random injury generator' early for this one!

[JediMasterRevan]

I really like TImelord, but I do think the team might need to make a plan in case injuries continue on in his career.

Every team needs a plan b,c,d,etc. And at center we have no other plan.

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Three week recovery period????

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

I really like TImelord, but I do think the team might need to make a plan in case injuries continue on in his career.

Every team needs a plan b,c,d,etc. And at center we have no other plan.

Agreed. People were upset that TT was starting or getting minutes over Williams but clearly there was a reason for that. Seems like Williams only has a certain amount of minutes a year and if he goes over that he starts to break.

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I really like TImelord, but I do think the team might need to make a plan in case injuries continue on in his career.

Every team needs a plan b,c,d,etc. And at center we have no other plan.

Agreed. People were upset that TT was starting or getting minutes over Williams but clearly there was a reason for that. Seems like Williams only has a certain amount of minutes a year and if he goes over that he starts to break.

That was the situation with Embiid for some years too.

I do suspect that Rob's core condition is more the root of this than admitted, however. If so, I hope it gets addressed in the offseason.

[JediMasterRevan]

I really like TImelord, but I do think the team might need to make a plan in case injuries continue on in his career.

Every team needs a plan b,c,d,etc. And at center we have no other plan.

Agreed. People were upset that TT was starting or getting minutes over Williams but clearly there was a reason for that. Seems like Williams only has a certain amount of minutes a year and if he goes over that he starts to break.

I was one of those guys.

[Parliament10]

I really like TImelord, but I do think the team might need to make a plan in case injuries continue on in his career.

Every team needs a plan b,c,d,etc. And at center we have no other plan.

Agreed. People were upset that TT was starting or getting minutes over Williams but clearly there was a reason for that. Seems like Williams only has a certain amount of minutes a year and if he goes over that he starts to break.

That was the situation with Embiid for some years too.

I do suspect that Rob's core condition is more the root of this than admitted, however. If so, I hope it gets addressed in the offseason.

Yes. He needs to get the PAES and any other underlying medical issues Straightened out. Pronto.
I'm not sure what the recovery time is. But, it may be best to just schedule him for the Surgery/ies, now.

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I really like TImelord, but I do think the team might need to make a plan in case injuries continue on in his career.

Every team needs a plan b,c,d,etc. And at center we have no other plan.

Agreed. People were upset that TT was starting or getting minutes over Williams but clearly there was a reason for that. Seems like Williams only has a certain amount of minutes a year and if he goes over that he starts to break.

That was the situation with Embiid for some years too.

I do suspect that Rob's core condition is more the root of this than admitted, however. If so, I hope it gets addressed in the offseason.

I've long believed that any condition that affects your gait puts you at elevated risk for further injuries below the waist. It happened to me once as a teenager. It's a huge issue for the elderly everywhere. I can't really support the claim based on information about professional athletes, but I still strongly suspect it's true.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

I just got an alert that Williams status for next week is uncertain.

[GoCeltics123]

I just got an alert that Williams status for next week is uncertain.

“Brad Stevens said Robert Williams is out tonight with turf toe. He’s meeting with specialists to see the best course of action. Stevens said Williams almost sat Wednesday. Isn’t sure what his availability will be over the next week. As Stevens said, turf toe lingers.”

Just...**** this ****

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I just got an alert that Williams status for next week is uncertain.

“Brad Stevens said Robert Williams is out tonight with turf toe. He’s meeting with specialists to see the best course of action. Stevens said Williams almost sat Wednesday. Isn’t sure what his availability will be over the next week. As Stevens said, turf toe lingers.”

Just...**** this ****

So did they play him injured because TT was out?

(Tacko's big week coming up?)

[GoCeltics123]

I just got an alert that Williams status for next week is uncertain.

“Brad Stevens said Robert Williams is out tonight with turf toe. He’s meeting with specialists to see the best course of action. Stevens said Williams almost sat Wednesday. Isn’t sure what his availability will be over the next week. As Stevens said, turf toe lingers.”

Just...**** this ****

So did they play him injured because TT was out?

Brad said that apparently you can play through this injury but it hurts a lot to do so.

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Just...**** this ****

So did they play him injured because TT was out?

Brad said that apparently you can play through this injury but it hurts a lot to do so.

I think he also said it would likely hurt more each time you play on that, so I take it that is aggravating it. And it apparently can lead to longterm damage:

"The injury involves tearing the capsule that surrounds the joint at the base of the toe, which I'm sure I don't need to tell you, is very painful. Furthermore, this tearing of the joint capsule can lead to instability and even dislocation of the joint at the base of the toe. Long-term damage may lead to accelerated cartilage wear and arthritis of the big toe.

TREATMENT OPTIONS:
Although the diagnosis of turf toe is fairly straightforward, it's a good idea to see a sports medicine orthopedic physician. He or she will probably order X-rays to rule out a fracture. Treatment of turf toe typically involves the old standby: RICE (rest, ice, compression, elevation). Anti-inflammatory medications may also be recommended by your doctor. To heal properly, you'll probably need to stay on the sidelines for at least three weeks. "

https://www.nba.com/bulls/features/ask-docs-turf-toe.html

[GoCeltics123]

So did they play him injured because TT was out?

Brad said that apparently you can play through this injury but it hurts a lot to do so.

I think he also said it would likely hurt more each time you play on that, so I take it that is aggravating it. And it apparently can lead to longterm damage:

"The injury involves tearing the capsule that surrounds the joint at the base of the toe, which I'm sure I don't need to tell you, is very painful. Furthermore, this tearing of the joint capsule can lead to instability and even dislocation of the joint at the base of the toe. Long-term damage may lead to accelerated cartilage wear and arthritis of the big toe.

TREATMENT OPTIONS:
Although the diagnosis of turf toe is fairly straightforward, it's a good idea to see a sports medicine orthopedic physician. He or she will probably order X-rays to rule out a fracture. Treatment of turf toe typically involves the old standby: RICE (rest, ice, compression, elevation). Anti-inflammatory medications may also be recommended by your doctor. To heal properly, you'll probably need to stay on the sidelines for at least three weeks. "

https://www.nba.com/bulls/features/ask-docs-turf-toe.html

FWIW, best case scenario with this sounds like Jrue Holiday and D-Rose had when they had this: they only missed 3 and 4 games, respectively

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Brad said that apparently you can play through this injury but it hurts a lot to do so.

I think he also said it would likely hurt more each time you play on that, so I take it that is aggravating it. And it apparently can lead to longterm damage:

"The injury involves tearing the capsule that surrounds the joint at the base of the toe, which I'm sure I don't need to tell you, is very painful. Furthermore, this tearing of the joint capsule can lead to instability and even dislocation of the joint at the base of the toe. Long-term damage may lead to accelerated cartilage wear and arthritis of the big toe.

TREATMENT OPTIONS:
Although the diagnosis of turf toe is fairly straightforward, it's a good idea to see a sports medicine orthopedic physician. He or she will probably order X-rays to rule out a fracture. Treatment of turf toe typically involves the old standby: RICE (rest, ice, compression, elevation). Anti-inflammatory medications may also be recommended by your doctor. To heal properly, you'll probably need to stay on the sidelines for at least three weeks. "

https://www.nba.com/b
ulls/features/ask-docs-turf-toe.html

FWIW, best case scenario with this sounds like Jrue Holiday and D-Rose had when they had this: they only missed 3 and 4 games, respectively

Yeah. That link people keep posting that says "at least 3 weeks" was from february 2013. I'm pretty sure sports medicine has progressed quite a bit over the past 8 years..

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Brad said that apparently you can play through this injury but it hurts a lot to do so.

I think he also said it would likely hurt more each time you play on that, so I take it that is aggravating it. And it apparently can lead to longterm damage:

"The injury involves tearing the capsule that surrounds the joint at the base of the toe, which I'm sure I don't need to tell you, is very painful. Furthermore, this tearing of the joint capsule can lead to instability and even dislocation of the joint at the base of the toe. Long-term damage may lead to accelerated cartilage wear and arthritis of the big toe.

TREATMENT OPTIONS:
Although the diagnosis of turf toe is fairly straightforward, it's a good idea to see a sports medicine orthopedic physician. He or she will probably order X-rays to rule out a fracture. Treatment of turf toe typically involves the old standby: RICE (rest, ice, compression, elevation). Anti-inflammatory medications may also be recommended by your doctor. To heal properly, you'll probably need to stay on the sidelines for at least three weeks. "

https://www.nba.com/bulls/features/ask-docs-turf-toe.html

FWIW, best case scenario with this sounds like Jrue Holiday and D-Rose had when they had this: they only missed 3 and 4 games, respectively

That would be great at this point.

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Don’t worry our training staff is probably WAY ahead of us and already googled it, maybe before having him play a game on it, but probably not.