Hal’s Draft Thread

[Celts17Pride]

Can't draft and develop another wing player with Brown, Tatum, Fournier, Nesmith and Langford on the roster. I could easily see a Romeo Langford, Celtics 1st and maybe even a future 1st trade or Smart for the Celtics to move up in the draft. Ainge is in great position to move up in my opinion if there is someone he is targeting.

[BK_2020]

Can't draft and develop another wing player with Brown, Tatum, Fournier, Nesmith and Langford on the roster. I could easily see a Romeo Langford, Celtics 1st and maybe even a future 1st trade or Smart for the Celtics to move up in the draft. Ainge is in great position to move up in my opinion if there is someone he is targeting.

It's possible but difficult. The trading team has to have a pick higher enough to be worth trading for and be set with young talent so they are looking for complementary pieces. The lotto teams this season are all so devoid of talent that I think only NOP and GSW are likely trade targets for lotto picks.

[Celts17Pride]

Can't draft and develop another wing player with Brown, Tatum, Fournier, Nesmith and Langford on the roster. I could easily see a Romeo Langford, Celtics 1st and maybe even a future 1st trade or Smart for the Celtics to move up in the draft. Ainge is in great position to move up in my opinion if there is someone he is targeting.

It's possible but difficult. The trading team has to have a pick higher enough to be worth trading for and be set with young talent so they are looking for complementary pieces. The lotto teams this season are all so devoid of talent that I think only NOP and GSW are likely trade targets for lotto picks.

I could easily see Smart and the Celtics 1st being moved to move up. Even if the Celtics don't move up there are so many teams without a first round pick that I could see the Celtics moving their pick in a trade. Yam Madar is probably coming over next year. Given the Celtics roster I highly doubt they keep the pick.

[Scoonie]

I think the Celtics will target another point guard or a power forward.

Pick is going to fall from 16-19 range I assume, so that is in the range of

I really like Jared Butler from Baylor as our point guard prospect. We should be looking to draft a starting-level caliber point guard who can eventually replace Kemba Walker. I really like Payton Pritchard, but I still think he's more of a top-flight backup point guard. Butler can be a starting NBA point guard.

Kid is 6'3, super skilled offensively, good defender, good passer, and just a savvy basketball player. 1st Team All-American and Most Outstanding Player of the Final Four this season. Had 22 points, 7 assists, and 3 rebounds to lead his team to the National Championship against a stacked Gonzaga team. And he's only 20! Reminds of a mix of Kemba Walker and CJ McCollum. The only reason he's not going lottery is that he's only an average athlete. I like him more than his teammate Davion Mitchell, who is 3-4 inches shorter and not nearly as polished offensively.

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I also really like Isaiah Todd form the G-League Ignite team. He's long (6'10), athletic, can run, and can shoot. He shot 38% from NBA 3-point land as a 19 year old right out of high school this past season. He reminds me of a taller, better shooting Daniel Theis with more upside and athleticism. We may be able to get him in the early 2nd round. Kid is being underrated by the NBA Draft evaluators.

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I also really like Isaiah Todd form the G-League Ignite team. He's long (6'10), athletic, can run, and can shoot. He shot 38% from NBA 3-point land as a 19 year old right out of high school this past season. He reminds me of a taller, better shooting Daniel Theis with more upside and athleticism. We may be able to get him in the early 2nd round. Kid is being underrated by the NBA Draft evaluators.

Watch on YouTube

He looks like he put the "jump" in "jump shot".

[Scoonie]

Scottie Barnes also has a really cool skillset, I'd roll the dice on him if he were still there at 17 or wherever Celtics pick in the first. Huge bust potential, but man someoene with that athleticism, defensive versatility, handle, playmaking would be pretty nice. Brutal shooter and somehow an atrocious rebounder, though. And if you can't shoot in this league, you may as well not even exist.

Barnes is going to be a huge bust. I have watched him play a few times and I have no idea why he's regarded as a lottery pick. Doesn't seem to do anything well, and not very athletic either.

[Bleeding Green]

Scottie Barnes also has a really cool skillset, I'd roll the dice on him if he were still there at 17 or wherever Celtics pick in the first. Huge bust potential, but man someoene with that athleticism, defensive versatility, handle, playmaking would be pretty nice. Brutal shooter and somehow an atrocious rebounder, though. And if you can't shoot in this league, you may as well not even exist.

Barnes is going to be a huge bust. I have watched him play a few times and I have no idea why he's regarded as a lottery pick. Doesn't seem to do anything well, and not very athletic either.

Yeah he has high bust potential. You don't think he's athletic? He's strong and quick as **** and has a massive wingspan. I must be watching a different guy if you think Scottie Barnes isn't athletic, I dunno what the hell sport I'm watching at all. His upside is Draymond. Guard skills with a 7'2" wingspan. On a team that can get out in transition he's going to be fantastic. Half-court offensive game could be abysmal if the shot never develops beyond what it is now. But at the least he's going to be a freak defender with passing skills.

But again I have no idea how you can watch even a few seconds of this guy and say he isn't athletic.

[Scoonie]

Yeah he has high bust potential. You don't think he's athletic? He's strong and quick as **** and has a massive wingspan. I must be watching a different guy if you think Scottie Barnes isn't athletic, I dunno what the hell sport I'm watching at all. His upside is Draymond. Guard skills with a 7'2" wingspan.

Can't jump and has no speed. Really bad shooter (27% 3PT and 62% FT). He does a pretty good job of moving his feet on defense, though, and can pass a little.

Not sure what position he plays at the NBA level. I feel very confident that he will be a huge bust in the NBA. I would stay far away from him.

[Bleeding Green]

Can't jump but can also dunk from outside the restricted area. Makes sense.

But yeah, he absolutely could be a bust due to the shot. But the skillset is so rare for someone with that length. How many guys have this skillset at that height and length? Simmons, Draymond Green, Boris Diaw? Just screams someone who will be much better in the NBA than in college.

[Scoonie]

Can't jump but can also dunk from outside the restricted area. Makes sense.

Maybe he can, but so can every other NBA player over 6'4. If he can leap, it definitely doesn't translate to the actual game. Watch from :30-:40 in the video below and tell me where all that explosive speed and leaping ability is. He's been a very grounded player in the games I've seen of him.

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NBA player he reminds me most of is Kyle "Slow Mo" Anderson.

[Bleeding Green]

In a 10 second span where he grabs a board and then takes it coast to coast, that's the evidence that he isn't athletic? The reason he fails won't be lack of athleticism anyway.

[Scoonie]

In a 10 second span where he grabs a board and then takes it coast to coast, that's the evidence that he isn't athletic? The reason he fails won't be lack of athleticism anyway.

The board fell right to him, and then he lumbered up the court, couldn't shake his big slow defender, and couldn't explode off the ground to finish the layup. His athleticism will be well below average in the NBA.

We can agree to disagree on this one.

[JediMasterRevan]

I think the Celtics will target another point guard or a power forward.

Pick is going to fall from 16-19 range I assume, so that is in the range of

I really like Jared Butler from Baylor as our point guard prospect. We should be looking to draft a starting-level caliber point guard who can eventually replace Kemba Walker. I really like Payton Pritchard, but I still think he's more of a top-flight backup point guard. Butler can be a starting NBA point guard.

Kid is 6'3, super skilled offensively, good defender, good passer, and just a savvy basketball player. 1st Team All-American and Most Outstanding Player of the Final Four this season. Had 22 points, 7 assists, and 3 rebounds to lead his team to the National Championship against a stacked Gonzaga team. And he's only 20! Reminds of a mix of Kemba Walker and CJ McCollum. The only reason he's not going lottery is that he's only an average athlete. I like him more than his teammate Davion Mitchell, who is 3-4 inches shorter and not nearly as polished offensively.

Watch on YouTube

;t=147s

I also really like Isaiah Todd form the G-League Ignite team. He's long (6'10), athletic, can run, and can shoot. He shot 38% from NBA 3-point land as a 19 year old right out of high school this past season. He reminds me of a taller, better shooting Daniel Theis with more upside and athleticism. We may be able to get him in the early 2nd round. Kid is being underrated by the NBA Draft evaluators.

Watch on YouTube

Todd is quickly becoming more and more of a binkie for me after doing more research on him.

Alot of posters here want John Collins, well here is john collins imo.

Can shoot, can dribble, can rebound, has range, has speed, has length.

His turnaround jumper is borderline unstoppable and his defense is improving and he is only 19.

[cloverleaf]

I want them to draft a big, beefy, backup center type who can play D against the other big centers in the league. More likely an international player, and who knows, with skill and sufficient athleticism, maybe he could surprise on the upside.

And I don't give up a pick to "dump" Kemba.

[Scoonie]

Todd is quickly becoming more and more of a binkie for me after doing more research on him.

Alot of posters here want John Collins, well here is john collins imo.

Can shoot, can dribble, can rebound, has range, has speed, has length.

His turnaround jumper is borderline unstoppable and his defense is improving and he is only 19.

He came on really strong towards the end of the G-League season and I've read that some scouts now think he will go 1st Round. He is also reportedly a hard worker with a good head on his shoulders. Read this:

https://hoopshype.com/lists/jalen-green-jonathan-kuminga-isaiah-todd-daishen-nix-g-league-ignite/

"But overall, he fared much better than Kuminga did when he was guarding opponents near the basket. Even though he mostly played in the second unit, the Ignite actually had a better defensive rating in minutes he was on the floor compared to when he was off.

Todd will earn some respect for serving as the secretary/treasurer of the G League Players’ Union, too, showcasing leadership traits and a willingness to take initiative."

You can see the huge potential when you watch him play.

[jpjp]

I want jalen johnson or usman garuba.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Can't draft and develop another wing player with Brown, Tatum, Fournier, Nesmith and Langford on the roster. I could easily see a Romeo Langford, Celtics 1st and maybe even a future 1st trade or Smart for the Celtics to move up in the draft. Ainge is in great position to move up in my opinion if there is someone he is targeting.

Agree that no more wings are needed.

Langford probably has zero value and last year seemed like the year to deal Smart, who might get Boston a mid-1st now.

[31to6]

Can't jump but can also dunk from outside the restricted area. Makes sense.

Maybe he can, but so can every other NBA player over 6'4. If he can leap, it definitely doesn't translate to the actual game. Watch from :30-:40 in the video below and tell me where all that explosive speed and leaping ability is. He's been a very grounded player in the games I've seen of him.

Watch on YouTube

NBA player he reminds me most of is Kyle "Slow Mo" Anderson.

OMG it's like Antoine Walker has been reborn.

I agree 'athleticism' can have many definitions, and need not be classic run/jump stuff, but this guy looks like he just needs to start drifting out for some gross 3pters and I'd be having Antoine flashbacks from 22 years ago.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Can't draft and develop another wing player with Brown, Tatum, Fournier, Nesmith and Langford on the roster. I could easily see a Romeo Langford, Celtics 1st and maybe even a future 1st trade or Smart for the Celtics to move up in the draft. Ainge is in great position to move up in my opinion if there is someone he is targeting.

It's possible but difficult. The trading team has to have a pick higher enough to be worth trading for and be set with young talent so they are looking for complementary pieces. The lotto teams this season are all so devoid of talent that I think only NOP and GSW are likely trade targets for lotto picks.

New Orleans seems to be about the only slim possibility of moving where Smart & pick is swapped for Bledsoe and NO's pick, with Davion Mitchell as the target.

Golden State will be picking 14th or 15th, so can't see a deal with them.

[31to6]

I also really like Isaiah Todd form the G-League Ignite team. He's long (6'10), athletic, can run, and can shoot. He shot 38% from NBA 3-point land as a 19 year old right out of high school this past season. He reminds me of a taller, better shooting Daniel Theis with more upside and athleticism. We may be able to get him in the early 2nd round. Kid is being underrated by the NBA Draft evaluators.

Watch on YouTube

Todd is quickly becoming more and more of a binkie for me after doing more research on him.

Alot of posters here want John Collins, well here is john collins imo.

Can shoot, can dribble, can rebound, has range, has speed, has length.

His turnaround jumper is borderline unstoppable and his defense is improving and he is only 19.

now THAT is some classic run/jump athleticism!
sign me up for that guy, honestly. My 10 minutes of draft research are done:)
that's like how Zach LaVine did squat in his one year of college hoops but was still a lottery pick because he LOOKED like a prototypical basketball star -- and it's worked out for him. Doesn't work out for lots, I know -- and tankathon has Todd ranked 66 (http://www.tankathon.com/players/isaiah-todd) -- but binky acquired.