Remaining Schedule & Seeding Thread

[Feed Your Head]

GoCeltics123 the legend.

[exculpatory]

UPDATE 5/3/2021 2230

See daily UPDATES by GoCeltics123 in this thread - enumerating the remaining games for our closest competitors!

Heat lost - excellent!
Hornets won.

We are:
3 games behind the Knicks;
1 1/2 games behind the Hawks - only 1 in the L column;
1/2 game behind the Heat - tied in the L column;
2 games ahead of the Hornets;
3 1/2 games ahead of the Pacers;
4 games ahead of the Wizards

4. Knicks 37-28
5. Hawks 36-30
6. Heat 35-31
7. Celtics 34-31
8. Hornets 32-33
9. Pacers 30-34
10. Wizards 30-35

Games Left = 7
2 H & 5 A

VS good teams: Heat twice, Knicks
VS teams we should “definitely” beat = Bulls, Cavs, Magic, Wolves

Week of 3May
Wed 5May A Magic
Fri 7May A Bulls
Sun 9May H Heat @ 1300

Week of 10May
Tues 11May H Heat
Wed 12May A Cavs
Sat 15May A Wolves
Sun 16May A Knicks - most likely between 1200 & 1700

[exculpatory]

UPDATE 5/5/2021 2300

Hawks won again (sigh).

Knicks about to be smashed. TY Nicola!

Pacers got squashed by the Kings.
Wiz lost to the Bucks 135-134 - but, damn, they are playing well. Beal is incredible & Russ is a daily trip dub. They will very likely pass the Pacers & get the 9 seed. They came from nowhere!

See daily UPDATES by GoCeltics123 in this thread - enumerating the remaining games for our closest competitors!

We are:
2 games behind the Knicks;
1 1/2 games behind the Hawks - only 1 in the L column;
Tied w the Heat;
2 1/2 games ahead of the Hornets;
4 1/2 games ahead of the Pacers;
5 games ahead of the Wizards

4. Knicks 37-29
5. Hawks 37-30
6. Celtics 35-31
7. Heat 35-31
8. Hornets 32-33
9. Pacers 30-35
10. Wizards 30-36

Games Left = 6
2 H & 4 A

VS good teams: Heat twice, Knicks
VS bad teams: Bulls, Cavs, Wolves

Week of 3May
Fri 7May A Bulls
Sun 9May H Heat @ 1300

Week of 10May
Tues 11May H Heat
Wed 12May A Cavs
Sat 15May A Wolves
Sun 16May A Knicks - most likely between 1200 & 1700

[GoCeltics123]

We win. Knicks lose. Hawks win. Up and down.

Celtics Tiebreakers:
Atlanta>Boston
Boston>New York
Boston>Miami
Boston>Charlotte

New York (4 seed, 37-29):

CHA--W
ATL (b2b)--W
TOR--W
PHX--L
CHI--W
@HOU--W
@MEM (b2b)--W
@DEN--L
@PHX
@LAC
@LAL
SA
CHA
BOS (b2b)

Atlanta (5 seed, 37-30):

ORL--W
@NY (b2b)--L
MIA--W
MIL--W
@DET (b2b)--L
@PHI--L
@PHI--L
@CHI (b2b)--W
POR--W
PHX--W
@IND (b2b)
WAS
WAS
@ORL (b2b)
HOU

Boston (6 seed, 35-31):

PHX--W
@BKN (b2b)--L
@CHA--L
OKC--L
CHA (b2b)--W
SA--W
POR--L
@ORL--W
@CHI
MIA
MIA
@CLE (b2b)
@MIN
@NY (b2b)

Miami (7 seed, 35-31):

@SA--W
@ATL--L
CHI (b2b)--W
CHI--L
SA--W
@CLE--W
@CHA (b2b)--W
DAL--L
MIN
@BOS
@BOS
PHI
@MIL
@DET (b2b)

Charlotte (8 seed, 32-33):

@NY--L
@CHI--L
CLE (b2b)--W
BOS--W
MIL--L
@BOS (b2b)--L
DET--W
MIA (b2b)--L
@DET--W
CHI
ORL (b2b)
NO
DEN
LAC
@NY
@WAS (b2b)

[Fencer reregistered]

Atlanta finishing with two games against tankers is not helpful to the chances of catching them. Before that they have a pair of home games against the Wiz, who surely will have at least a little to play for, and likely will have more than that. (The "little" is home court for the 9/10 game, and the "more" is any possibility of moving up or down from the 9/10 pairing.)

[exculpatory]

Hawks (up 2 games in the L column on us counting the tiebreaker) have an easy remaining schedule & the Knicks (up 2 games in the L column on us counting the tiebreaker) have an exceedingly difficult remaining schedule.
We obviously need to win out to have even a small shot at the 4 or 5 seed.

We are up on the Heat by 1 game in the L column counting the tiebreaker.
We need to split or sweep our 2 remaining games with them to at least get the 6 seed.
We need to take care of business VS a bad team & beat the Bulls on Friday (because the Heat will likely beat the Wolves on Friday) so that we retain our 1 game ad on the Heat going into our 2 critical games w them on Sunday & Tuesday.

[reload141]

Hawks (up 2 games in the L column on us counting the tiebreaker) have an easy remaining schedule & the Knicks (up 2 games in the L column on us counting the tiebreaker) have an exceedingly difficult remaining schedule.
We obviously need to win out to have even a small shot at the 4 or 5 seed.

We are up on the Heat by 1 game in the L column counting the tiebreaker.
We need to split or sweep our 2 remaining games with them to at least get the 6 seed.
We need to take care of business VS a bad team & beat the Bulls on Friday (because the Heat will likely beat the Wolves on Friday) so that we retain our 1 game ad on the Heat going into our 2 critical games w them on Sunday & Tuesday.

LaVine back too

[GoCeltics123]

Hawks lose, Hornets lose. Good seeding night. One thing that is scary: if the Bucks win out, the Nets will be the 3 seed. **** yikes

Celtics Tiebreakers:
Atlanta>Boston
Boston>New York
Boston>Miami
Boston>Charlotte

New York (4 seed, 37-29):

CHA--W
ATL (b2b)--W
TOR--W
PHX--L
CHI--W
@HOU--W
@MEM (b2b)--W
@DEN--L
@PHX
@LAC
@LAL
SA
CHA
BOS (b2b)

Atlanta (5 seed, 37-31):

ORL--W
@NY (b2b)--L
MIA--W
MIL--W
@DET (b2b)--L
@PHI--L
@PHI--L
@CHI (b2b)--W
POR--W
PHX--W
@IND (b2b)--L
WAS
WAS
@ORL (b2b)
HOU

Boston (6 seed, 35-31):

PHX--W
@BKN (b2b)--L
@CHA--L
OKC--L
CHA (b2b)--W
SA--W
POR--L
@ORL--W
@CHI
MIA
MIA
@CLE (b2b)
@MIN
@NY (b2b)

Miami (7 seed, 35-31):

@SA--W
@ATL--L
CHI (b2b)--W
CHI--L
SA--W
@CLE--W
@CHA (b2b)--W
DAL--L
MIN
@BOS
@BOS
PHI
@MIL
@DET (b2b)

Charlotte (8 seed, 32-34):

@NY--L
@CHI--L
CLE (b2b)--W
BOS--W
MIL--L
@BOS (b2b)--L
DET--W
MIA (b2b)--L
@DET--W
CHI--L
ORL (b2b)
NO
DEN
LAC
@NY
@WAS (b2b)

[playa-hater]

Hawks lose, Hornets lose. Good seeding night. One thing that is scary: if the Bucks win out, the Nets will be the 3 seed. **** yikes

Celtics Tiebreakers:
Atlanta>Boston
Boston>New York
Boston>Miami
Boston>Charlotte

New York (4 seed, 37-29):

CHA--W
ATL (b2b)--W
TOR--W
PHX--L
CHI--W
@HOU--W
@MEM (b2b)--W
@DEN--L
@PHX
@LAC
@LAL
SA
CHA
BOS (b2b)

Atlanta (5 seed, 37-31):

ORL--W
@NY (b2b)--L
MIA--W
MIL--W
@DET (b2b)--L
@PHI--L
@PHI--L
@CHI (b2b)--W
POR--W
PHX--W
@IND (b2b)--L
WAS
WAS
@ORL (b2b)
HOU

Boston (6 seed, 35-31):

PHX--W
@BKN (b2b)--L
@CHA--L
OKC--L
CHA (b2b)--W
SA--W
POR--L
@ORL--W
@CHI
MIA
MIA
@CLE (b2b)
@MIN
@NY (b2b)

Miami (7 seed, 35-31):

@SA--W
@ATL--L
CHI (b2b)--W
CHI--L
SA--W
@CLE--W
@CHA (b2b)--W
DAL--L
MIN
@BOS
@BOS
PHI
@MIL
@DET (b2b)

Charlotte (8 seed, 32-34):

@NY--L
@CHI--L
CLE (b2b)--W
BOS--W
MIL--L
@BOS (b2b)--L
DET--W
MIA (b2b)--L
@DET--W
CHI--L
ORL (b2b)
NO
DEN
LAC
@NY
@WAS (b2b)

a little luck, a little help, and we take care of our business, 4th is still very DO-ABLE!!

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UPDATE 5/6/2021 2330

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1. Bulls beat the Hornets pushing them 3 games behind us.
2. Pacers did us a huge favor & beat the Hawks - we are now 1 game behind them BUT TIED w 31 losses! Hawks now have to play the flaming red hot Wizards twice (who just beat the Raps in OT).
3. We are 2 full games behind the Knicks - but their remaining schedule is VERY difficult.
4. We are currently tied w the Heat - but have the tiebreaker. It goes w/o saying that we need to **** them up on Sun AND Tues in the Garden.

We are:
2 games behind the Knicks;
1 game behind the Hawks - BUT TIED in the L column;
Tied w the Heat;
3 games ahead of the Hornets;
4 games ahead of the Pacers;
4 1/2 games ahead of the Wizards

4. Knicks 37-29
5. Hawks 37-31
6. Celtics 35-31
7. Heat 35-31
8. Hornets 32-34
9. Pacers 31-35
10. Wizards 31-36

Games Left = 6
2 H & 4 A

VS good teams: Heat twice, Knicks
VS bad teams: Bulls, Cavs, Wolves

Week of 3May
Fri 7May A Bulls
Sun 9May H Heat @ 1300

Week of 10May
Tues 11May H Heat
Wed 12May A Cavs
Sat 15May A Wolves
Sun 16May A Knicks - most likely between 1200 & 1700

[Fencer reregistered]

We basically need the Wizards to take both from the Hawks, while we win out, or we likely won't be passing Atlanta. (Tiebreak, plus the tomato cans that end their schedule.)

That said, the 5th slot is almost as good as the 4th, and I don't care which of the Knicks or Hawks we play from there. I just want a series to get team play tuned up before we play anybody that has an MVP-class player more or less in his prime.

[Spin Move]

We basically need the Wizards to take both from the Hawks, while we win out, or we likely won't be passing Atlanta. (Tiebreak, plus the tomato cans that end their schedule.)

That said, the 5th slot is almost as good as the 4th, and I don't care which of the Knicks or Hawks we play from there. I just want a series to get team play tuned up before we play anybody that has an MVP-class player more or less in his prime.

I would much rather face Atlanta on then any of the top 3, don't care if we are home are not, they do not have a playoff defense. We need to take care of business vs the heat which is no easy feat, but doable. Timelord needs to stay out of foul trouble for us to have a good chance.

[snowman]

prediction / wishing for remainder of regular season:
Current:
NY 37-29 6 to go loses to Pho, Lac, Lal, Bos, beats SA, Cha
Atl 37-31 4 to go loses to Was, Was, wins beats Orl, Hou
Bos 35-31 6 to go loses to Mia, beats Chi, Mia, Cle, Min, NY

NY goes 2-4 finishes up at 39-33
Atl goes 2-2 finishes up at 39-33
Bos goes 5-1 finishes up at 40-32

[exculpatory]

prediction / wishing for remainder of regular season:
Current:
NY 37-29 6 to go loses to Pho, Lac, Lal, Bos, beats SA, Cha
Atl 37-31 4 to go loses to Was, Was, wins beats Orl, Hou
Bos 35-31 6 to go loses to Mia, beats Chi, Mia, Cle, Min, NY

NY goes 2-4 finishes up at 39-33
Atl goes 2-2 finishes up at 39-33
Bos goes 5-1 finishes up at 40-32

Your wishes to the basketball goddess’ ears.

[exculpatory]

UPDATE 5/8/2021 2400

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Nauseating despicable embarrassing L to the Bulls.
Our Super Star is not yet a Super Star.
Our coach is an anorgasmic & passionless ameba.

Heat of course took care of business & Knicks lost.

We are the **** 7 seed! Blecch!

We are:
2 games behind the Knicks;
1 1/2 games behind the Hawks;
1 game behind the Heat entering critical 2 games w them;
2 games ahead of the Hornets;
3 1/2 games ahead of the Wizards;
4 games ahead of the Pacers

4. Knicks 37-30
5. Hawks 37-31
6. Heat 36-31
7. Celtics 35-32
8. Hornets 33-34
9. Wizards 32-36
10. Pacers 31-36

Games Left = 5
2 H & 3 A

VS good teams: Heat twice, Knicks
VS bad teams: Cavs, Wolves

Week of 3May
Sun 9May H Heat @ 1300

Week of 10May
Tues 11May H Heat
Wed 12May A Cavs
Sat 15May A Wolves
Sun 16May A Knicks - most likely between 1200 & 1700

[klemen4]

Still very duable to get 5th seed:

5-0 will be enough because NY will lose at least one of LAC/ LAL games, plus we beat them

4-1 with one loss vs. Cle/Min may be enough, if NY loses both LA games.

4-1 with one loss to Mia still could be enough if Mia for instance loses @Mil or home to Phi AND NY loses both LA games


So imo still with a little help from other teams we can get 5th seed. Even 4th still possible but I doubt Atl would lose both home games with WAS.

Let's go

[CeltsFlow]

If we can't get the 4/5 seed, just do whatever it takes to avoid Brooklyn first round

[GoCeltics123]

And we're right back to pain! Right on schedule.

Celtics Tiebreakers:
Atlanta>Boston
Boston>New York
Boston>Miami
Boston>Charlotte

New York (4 seed, 37-30):

CHA--W
ATL (b2b)--W
TOR--W
PHX--L
CHI--W
@HOU--W
@MEM (b2b)--W
@DEN--L
@PHX--L
@LAC
@LAL
SA
CHA
BOS (b2b)

Atlanta (5 seed, 37-31):

ORL--W
@NY (b2b)--L
MIA--W
MIL--W
@DET (b2b)--L
@PHI--L
@PHI--L
@CHI (b2b)--W
POR--W
PHX--W
@IND (b2b)--L
WAS
WAS
@ORL (b2b)
HOU

Miami (6 seed, 36-31):

@SA--W
@ATL--L
CHI (b2b)--W
CHI--L
SA--W
@CLE--W
@CHA (b2b)--W
DAL--L
MIN--W
@BOS
@BOS
PHI
@MIL
@DET (b2b)


Boston (7 seed, 35-32):

PHX--W
@BKN (b2b)--L
@CHA--L
OKC--L
CHA (b2b)--W
SA--W
POR--L
@ORL--W
@CHI--L
MIA
MIA
@CLE (b2b)
@MIN
@NY (b2b)

Charlotte (8 seed, 33-34):

@NY--L
@CHI--L
CLE (b2b)--W
BOS--W
MIL--L
@BOS (b2b)--L
DET--W
MIA (b2b)--L
@DET--W
CHI--L
ORL (b2b)--W
NO
DEN
LAC
@NY
@WAS (b2b)

[djFan71]

It almost doesn't matter at this point. We're pretty much locked into 6th or 7th. It really only means having to play CHA or not first.

After that it's going thru the top 3 teams in some order. Not looking super pretty. With 4 or 5 we could've gotten that token first round win, but I don't see it starting with BKN or MIL. Getting a couple games is probably best case.

[exculpatory]

So right now the standings are

4) NYL 37-30 (@LAC, @LAL, vsSAS, vsCHA, vsBOS)
5) ATL 31-31 (vsWAS, vsWAS, vsORL, vsHOU)
6) MIA 36-31 (@BOS, @BOS, vsPHI, @MIL, @DET)
7) BOS 35-32 (vsMIA, vsMIA, @CLE, @MIN, @NYK)

So what needs to happen?

KNICKS:
BOS plays NYK the last game of the year; if they win that game, they also get the tie breaker. So they can still pass the NYK if they win one more game than them in the next 4 games AND then beat them the last game of the season. NYK has some pretty tough games left against both the LA teams and CHA/SAS who are both in the playoff hunt.

Realistically, to pass the Knicks, we could win 3 of the next 4 games (split the 2 Miami games & then beat the Cavs & Wolves) & THEN beat the Knicks at MSG on Sunday WHILE the Knicks would ONLY need to lose to ANY OF the Clippers or the Fakers or the Spurs or the Hornets before losing to us on Sunday. That is feasible!

HAWKS:
To pass ATL, BOS needs to lose 2 fewer games than ATL the rest of the year because ATL already has the tie breaker. This is a tough one because ATL only has four games left - but two of those are with WAS who is playing VERY well and still chasing positioning in the Play In round.

Realistically, to pass the Hawks, we MUST win ALL of our remaining 5 games WHILE the Hawks lose twice to the Wizards (because the Hawks most definitely will beat the Magic & the Rockets). That is a long shot.

HEAT:
BOS plays its next two against MIA. If BOS sweeps they will move one game up on MIA WITH the tie breaker with only three to play for each team - which would nearly lock in a better finish than MIA. If BOS splits the next two with MIA then BOS getS the tie breaker, but BOS would need to lose one fewer game over each team’s last three games to pull even and pass MIA with that tie breaker. Not impossible given that MIA plays both PHI who may still be trying to lock up the 1 seed, and MIL who will be trying to lock up the 2 seed, in 2 of their final three games - while we simultaneously play the lowly Cavs & Wolves.

I cannot write it better than u just did. Sweep the mother **** & we pass them. Split w them & we STILL could pass them. Lose both to them & **** it.


TLDR: So basically its gonna be hard to pass ATL unless we WIN out. We can lose MAYBE one more game (say a split against MIA) and still stand a chance of passing either/or NYK or MIA as long as we win all of our other remaining games (including the last game against NYK) in part because NYK and MIA have some tough games left and BOS would own the tiebreakers.

GREAT post of the many variables simultaneously at play here! LOL.

I just moved all of this to the Remaining Schedule & Seeding Thread.

Edit:
If Beal is down this week, the chances of passing the Hawks just went from small to 0.