Official Celtics 2021-22 Season Thread

[LarryBirdsFingr]

In times like these I like to get really wasted and pop in the ole 2008 championship DVD special. Calms the nerves

[MagicBagley18]

I’ll operate under the notion that 1) the Celtics aren’t firing stevens - not in a covid season and not after 1 disappointing season. It’s not happening.

I’d hate to lose smart but I do expect them to at least shop around and see what he can get. Re-sign Fournier otherwise we blew most of the tpe on a rental which is a major failure. Shop kemba but I’m not attaching picks or multiple picks to him to move him.

I’m open to listening to Jaylen deals on certain players but don’t think anyone good enough to deal Jaylen becomes available.

[Fencer reregistered]

I’ll operate under the notion that 1) the Celtics aren’t firing stevens - not in a covid season and not after 1 disappointing season. It’s not happening.

I’d hate to lose smart but I do expect them to at least shop around and see what he can get. Re-sign Fournier otherwise we blew most of the tpe on a rental which is a major failure. Shop kemba but I’m not attaching picks or multiple picks to him to move him.

I’m open to listening to Jaylen deals on certain players but don’t think anyone good enough to deal Jaylen becomes available.

They don't have to shop anybody. They just have to react to the calls that come in. Everybody on the Celtics will be asked about.

[Fencer reregistered]

Starting soon after the re-signing of Mark Blount, Danny has preferred flawed centers on other teams to flawed centers on his own team. I expect that trend to continue.

[reload141]

This is why I tend to love the offseason more than the actual season (barring playoffs of course)

Just really interested to see what direction we take from here.

[BillessuR6]

Trade Kemba to CHI for Satoransky+Aminu

[aporel18]

Do it, Danny, nothing to lose at this point:

Read on Twitter

[ParticleMan]

Swap Kemba for Horford. Throw in spare parts like Grant/Carsen/2nd rounders if needs be.
Resign Fournier for 20 per. Still not sold on the guy, but at that price which i think is fair he's movable later.
Shop TT. Shop Smart but don't trade unless godfather offer.
Draft a PG. or maybe bring madar.

smart/fournier/brown/tatum/horford(splits time with TL)
pritchard/nesmith/TL/see who else plays into the rotation (romeo, hopefully)
TT stays as emergency C, but with TL's injury history and horford's age he will get PT.

and yeah, no way they fire brad, especially now. the guy had some pretty good years here, i think he deserves one more year to prove he hasn't suddenly forgotten how to coach.

[Fencer reregistered]

Make a list of the teams who were gassed from a deep playoff run last season. Obviously, the Cs are near the top.
Make a list of the teams hit hardest by COVID. The Cs are near the top.
Look for another team that's near the top of BOTH those lists. It won't be easy.

I'd guess that the Celtics were also above-average in being hit by non-COVID injuries. Certainly they didn't get off unusually lightly.

[chrisab123]

Make a list of the teams who were gassed from a deep playoff run last season. Obviously, the Cs are near the top.
Make a list of the teams hit hardest by COVID. The Cs are near the top.
Look for another team that's near the top of BOTH those lists. It won't be easy.

I'd guess that the Celtics were also above-average in being hit by non-COVID injuries. Certainly they didn't get off unusually lightly.

I get it. But this can only take you so far. Even if this team was healthy and covid wasn't a thing they still take games off and they have a tendency to tune Brad out. Smart is jacking up shots at will and not deferring. Yet hes arguably the 3rd option in this offense. You trade for a guy who was a borderline all star in Orlando and regulate him to 5th in the pecking order. They sign Jabari Parker to sit behind Grant Williams. This is a systematic failure by Danny and Brad and there needs to be changes this offseason otherwise next offseason Tatum and Brown will probably force those changes to happen which will result in another rebuild where we hope the Celtics draft the future Brown and Tatum.

[Higgs Boston]

Another mid round first and an "almost got the guy we REALLY wanted!" draft pick incoming, guys.

And without trying to do a trade up, of course, because it's too expensive or risky and is more funny to use all the rounds.

[MagicBagley18]

I’ll operate under the notion that 1) the Celtics aren’t firing stevens - not in a covid season and not after 1 disappointing season. It’s not happening.

I’d hate to lose smart but I do expect them to at least shop around and see what he can get. Re-sign Fournier otherwise we blew most of the tpe on a rental which is a major failure. Shop kemba but I’m not attaching picks or multiple picks to him to move him.

I’m open to listening to Jaylen deals on certain players but don’t think anyone good enough to deal Jaylen becomes available.

They don't have to shop anybody. They just have to react to the calls that come in. Everybody on the Celtics will be asked about.

I mean isn’t this arguing semantics.....and yes, they most def have to shop kemba lol

[cloverleaf]

Make a list of the teams who were gassed from a deep playoff run last season. Obviously, the Cs are near the top.
Make a list of the teams hit hardest by COVID. The Cs are near the top.
Look for another team that's near the top of BOTH those lists. It won't be easy.

I'd guess that the Celtics were also above-average in being hit by non-COVID injuries. Certainly they didn't get off unusually lightly.

I get it. But this can only take you so far. Even if this team was healthy and covid wasn't a thing they still take games off and they have a tendency to tune Brad out. Smart is jacking up shots at will and not deferring. Yet hes arguably the 3rd option in this offense. You trade for a guy who was a borderline all star in Orlando and regulate him to 5th in the pecking order. They sign Jabari Parker to sit behind Grant Williams. This is a systematic failure by Danny and Brad and there needs to be changes this offseason otherwise next offseason Tatum and Brown will probably force those changes to happen which will result in another rebuild where we hope the Celtics draft the future Brown and Tatum.

You've got it. The Jays want to be "the men" with many shots a night apiece. Kemba's got to get his too. Smart wants to be right there as well. (Kornet's sister even reported that Brad told him his job was just to get shots for those 4 players.) Yet the team is surprised when AS-caliber vets want to bail as soon as possible?

For the record, beyond RW and TF, EF, AN and PP also all have higher TS% than any of their "Big Four". Those three also have about half the usage of the Jays (ranging from 13.5-16.5% compared to 29.7-30.6%), despite also being able to score at all three levels. JB and JT are just 2% and 1% above league average in TS%, while KW and MS are 3% and 6% below league average respectively. The Jays get swarmed by the D and then too often lose the ball or force up a bad shot without even looking for their wide-open teammates.

A new coach with a new approach is desperately needed.

[JediMasterRevan]

Sign and trade Fournier along with Thompson to GSW for Wiggins and the the Minny pick (top 3 protected currently 6th) as long as it conveys in the 4-8 range (which it is most likely to do) (GSW would have to pick our guy for us so that we can make the trade after)

Trade Kemba, Romeo and our second to Orlando for Gary Harris and RJ Hampton

Draft 1 of Suggs, Mitchell, Giddey or Kuminga with the GSW pick
Draft Todd with our own pick
USE tpe's and MLE to sign or sign and trade for a center and wing depth.


Draft pick/Pritchard/Hampton
Smart/Harris
Brown/Nesmith
Tatum/Todd/GrantW
Timelord/Kornet

[cloverleaf]

This draft prospect has a really interesting statistical profile Neemias Queta, 7'4 wingspan, likely 6'10 without shoes (listed at 7'0)
10 Boards, 3.3 blocks 1.1 steals and 2.7 assits a game are all solid numbers for a center just under 15 points a game.

http://www.tankathon.com/players/neemias-queta

Found measurements for him from 2019, he has supposedly gained 20 lbs since then so just under 6'11 and 245.
Height (w/shoes) - 7'0.25"
Height (w/o shoes) - 6'10.75"
Wingspan - 7'4.25"
Standing Reach - 9'3.5"
Hand Width - 11.0"
Weight - 225 lbs

Some nice stories about him online. Monster defender. Looks like exactly what the C's need.

[GoCeltics123]

I’ll operate under the notion that 1) the Celtics aren’t firing stevens - not in a covid season and not after 1 disappointing season. It’s not happening.

I’d hate to lose smart but I do expect them to at least shop around and see what he can get. Re-sign Fournier otherwise we blew most of the tpe on a rental which is a major failure. Shop kemba but I’m not attaching picks or multiple picks to him to move him.

I’m open to listening to Jaylen deals on certain players but don’t think anyone good enough to deal Jaylen becomes available.

Yeah Brad isn't getting fired now. People need to get over it and realize that.

#1 priority is re-signing Fournier. Numero uno. Have to do it. I'd offer him 4/76.

I think at least one of Kemba/Brown will be gone...just a hunch but not sure. Maybe TT as well. Try to use the rest of the TPE on a guy like Nance or Justin Holiday.

Timelord is a tough call...do you extend him? If so, what number? I love his game but he's so injury-prone that you should think about moving on if you can get a really good player, like a Smart/Timelord base package for Sabonis (don't even love that one). I doubt Beal is available this summer.

Cut dead weight...Edwards/Semi at minimum should not be on this team next year. I'm willing to give Grant one more year since he was so good his rookie year, but he HAS to be better next year.

Call me an optimist, but I do think this team is going to be MUCH better next year.

[MagicBagley18]

I’d also like to have a roster that doesn’t have 5 undersized guards on it

[JediMasterRevan]

I’ll operate under the notion that 1) the Celtics aren’t firing stevens - not in a covid season and not after 1 disappointing season. It’s not happening.

I’d hate to lose smart but I do expect them to at least shop around and see what he can get. Re-sign Fournier otherwise we blew most of the tpe on a rental which is a major failure. Shop kemba but I’m not attaching picks or multiple picks to him to move him.

I’m open to listening to Jaylen deals on certain players but don’t think anyone good enough to deal Jaylen becomes available.

They don't have to shop anybody. They just have to react to the calls that come in. Everybody on the Celtics will be asked about.

I mean isn’t this arguing semantics.....and yes, they most def have to shop kemba lol

Been thinking that the Magic,(Along with Chicago) is looking like a perfect landing spot for Kemba.

1) Have some capspace
2) have two top 10 picks right now
3) will want to improve
4) Will need to sell lots of tickets to recoup money lost in covid
5) will want to be back pushing for playoffs
6) have a young, potential Kemba type player to learn from Kemba
7) Picks are looking like they will be wings and their team already has lots, so can move some.

Based on some mocks their picks could be an SG and a SF so based on that a deal of HArris and Hampton for Kemba and Romeo works ( I believe they are about 20 million below cap after singing 2 rookies)

Then assuming that Ball is indeed wanting out of New Orleans, then you look to either sign and trade Fournier to Pelicans with Thompson or flip Harris and Thompson to the pelicans for a resigned Ball(at about 18 mill per season) and Adams (trade after May 23rd when Adams is eligible to be dealt)

So Orlando would look like:
Kemba/Anthony/
Fultz/Draft
Ross/Draft/Romeo
Isaac/Okeke
Carter Jr/Bamba

Damn good looking team

Pelicans would look like:
Bledsoe/Lewis
Harris/NAW
Ingram/Iwundu
Zion/Gabriel
Thompson/Hayes

Again, A very good looking team with better balance.


Boston would be
Ball/Pritchard/Hampton
Smart/Fournier/Edwards
Brown/Nesmith
Tatum/Todd (boston pick)/Grant W
Timelord/Adams/Kornet

MLE on a big defensive forward who can play some PF as well.

[MagicBagley18]

They don't have to shop anybody. They just have to react to the calls that come in. Everybody on the Celtics will be asked about.

I mean isn’t this arguing semantics.....and yes, they most def have to shop kemba lol

Been thinking that the Magic,(Along with Chicago) is looking like a perfect landing spot for Kemba.

1) Have some capspace
2) have two top 10 picks right now
3) will want to improve
4) Will need to sell lots of tickets to recoup money lost in covid
5) will want to be back pushing for playoffs
6) have a young, potential Kemba type player to learn from Kemba
7) Picks are looking like they will be wings and their team already has lots, so can move some.

Based on some mocks their picks could be an SG and a SF so based on that a deal of HArris and Hampton for Kemba and Romeo works ( I believe they are about 20 million below cap after singing 2 rookies)

Then assuming that Ball is indeed wanting out of New Orleans, then you look to either sign and trade Fournier to Pelicans with Thompson or flip Harris and Thompson to the pelicans for a resigned Ball(at about 18 mill per season) and Adams (trade after May 23rd when Adams is eligible to be dealt)

So Orlando would look like:
Kemba/Anthony/
Fultz/Draft
Ross/Draft/Romeo
Isaac/Okeke
Carter Jr/Bamba

Damn good looking team

Pelicans would look like:
Bledsoe/Lewis
Harris/NAW
Ingram/Iwundu
Zion/Gabriel
Thompson/Hayes

Again, A very good looking team with better balance.


Boston would be
Ball/Pritchard/Hampton
Smart/Fournier/Edwards
Brown/Nesmith
Tatum/Todd (boston pick)/Grant W
Timelord/Adams/Kornet

MLE on a big defensive forward who can play some PF as well.

To me once magic dealt vucevic and sold off Fournier it was a pretty big indicator they’ve finally pivoted away from fighting for an 8 seed anymore. At least for a few season. Think that sealed the end of kemba to magic

[BK_2020]

Trade Brown, trade Smart, trade TT, trade Kemba, trade Robert Williams for prospects and try for a top 8 pick in the 22 draft.