FMVP vs MVP

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MVP.

The sample size for FMVP is tiny and the voters' decision is often swayed by narrative and recency bias.

[Winsome Gerbil]

The fact that there is even a thread on this is one of realgm's all time SMH moments.

[fanofthegreats]

For all the playoff mvp proponents, does that automatically go to the a player on the winning team?

[Wigginstime]

Its MVPs and Championships that count

No one ever cared about Final MVPs until the Kobe debates started and people wanted to downplay the championships he won with Shaq.

Which is funny because everyone says Duncan is a 5x champion. No one tries to discredit two of his championships because Kawhi and Parker got final MVP.

The entire FMVP debate started purely by those who wanted to down play Kobe. I watched Basketball for 30 years and never heard this argument made until Kobe.

[Ballerhogger]

Curry thread .. FMVP are ok best player that plays in championship round should be rewarded. It can’t be playoffs mvp because if you have one great series and still get eliminated are still the mvp of the playoffs ?

[Ballerhogger]

I find the mvp is better one since you have to be healthy longer and consistent for longer period of time

[Galloisdaman]

Finals can be a 4-7 game hot streak. Regular season is much more meaningful to me.

[Myth]

For all the playoff mvp proponents, does that automatically go to the a player on the winning team?

I would do it that way.

[Dr Aki]

I selected both because I could

[Woodsanity]

Depends on context....

[SkyHookFTW]

I'll take the FMVP because it most likely means I'm wearing a new, shiny ring. It also means you came up big in the biggest moment of the season.

You have to separate the title from the award. The title was a team effort. The award says you had a good 4-7 games in what may have been the toughest series but in most years likely wasn't.

I don't have to separate anything, it's my opinion. There is no right or wrong answer to the question. If I have that award I very likely have the legacy of a title. I'm pretty sure Giannis would trade a MVP award for a FMVP award and a ring.

[dhsilv2]

I'll take the FMVP because it most likely means I'm wearing a new, shiny ring. It also means you came up big in the biggest moment of the season.

You have to separate the title from the award. The title was a team effort. The award says you had a good 4-7 games in what may have been the toughest series but in most years likely wasn't.

I don't have to separate anything, it's my opinion. There is no right or wrong answer to the question. If I have that award I very likely have the legacy of a title. I'm pretty sure Giannis would trade a MVP award for a FMVP award and a ring.

I'm sure he'd trade the MVP for a ring. I doubt he'd trade it to be another Jerry West to win the finals MVP but lose.

[dhsilv2]

For all the playoff mvp proponents, does that automatically go to the a player on the winning team?

I would do it that way.

I wouldn't, but I'd guess a player on the winning team would win the majority of them.

[OfficialRef]

Give me a break with these posts, only reason people are hating on winning a FMVP is because their idol Curry didn't win one.
Same guys trying to create a false resolution of FMVP being worthless are the same curry fans that complained hard he didn't win one, the same guys that constantly bring it up.

Anyway finals mvp>> MVP

Finals mvp means you were the most valuable player on the best team in the league. MVP is the narrative driven/stats based award (Westbrook, Rose) that features voters who I doubt even watch every single game.

By this boards admission the regular season is a joke with all the players resting. Why should we take the regular season award seriously over the mvp of the most anticipated matchup/highest quality matchup?

[SkyHookFTW]

You have to separate the title from the award. The title was a team effort. The award says you had a good 4-7 games in what may have been the toughest series but in most years likely wasn't.

I don't have to separate anything, it's my opinion. There is no right or wrong answer to the question. If I have that award I very likely have the legacy of a title. I'm pretty sure Giannis would trade a MVP award for a FMVP award and a ring.

I'm sure he'd trade the MVP for a ring. I doubt he'd trade it to be another Jerry West to win the finals MVP but lose.

That is the only time that has happened. You're really reaching, lol.

[dhsilv2]

Give me a break with these posts, only reason people are hating on winning a FMVP is because their idol Curry didn't win one.
Same guys trying to create a false resolution of FMVP being worthless are the same curry fans that complained hard he didn't win one, the same guys that constantly bring it up.

Anyway finals mvp>> MVP

Finals mvp means you were the most valuable player on the best team in the league. MVP is the narrative driven/stats based award (Westbrook, Rose) that features voters who I doubt even watch every single game.

By this boards admission the regular season is a joke with all the players resting. Why should we take the regular season award seriously over the mvp of the most anticipated matchup/highest quality matchup?

Yes because...

1980 Magic was better than kareem
1981 Maxwell was better than Bird
1985 Kareem was better than Magic (at least a debate)
1988 Worthy was better than Magic
1989 Joe Dumars was better than Thomas
2004 Billups was better than Ben
2006 Wade was better than Shaq (at least a debate)
2007 Parker was better than Duncan
2008 Pierce was better than KG
2014 There was a best player on the spurs?
2015 Iggy was better than Curry, Klay, AND Green?

It's not like there's one or two weird odd ones. It's constantly not the best player on the best team.

[dhsilv2]

I don't have to separate anything, it's my opinion. There is no right or wrong answer to the question. If I have that award I very likely have the legacy of a title. I'm pretty sure Giannis would trade a MVP award for a FMVP award and a ring.

I'm sure he'd trade the MVP for a ring. I doubt he'd trade it to be another Jerry West to win the finals MVP but lose.

That is the only time that has happened. You're really reaching, lol.

You're right it just happened once, but you're connecting the award to the ring which isn't the question. Would you rather be 2015 curry or 2014 Leonard?

[dygaction]

Give me a break with these posts, only reason people are hating on winning a FMVP is because their idol Curry didn't win one.
Same guys trying to create a false resolution of FMVP being worthless are the same curry fans that complained hard he didn't win one, the same guys that constantly bring it up.

Anyway finals mvp>> MVP

Finals mvp means you were the most valuable player on the best team in the league. MVP is the narrative driven/stats based award (Westbrook, Rose) that features voters who I doubt even watch every single game.

By this boards admission the regular season is a joke with all the players resting. Why should we take the regular season award seriously over the mvp of the most anticipated matchup/highest quality matchup?

Wrong. Nobody would be surprised if any of the MVPs without a FMVP could have won a FMVP through the course of their career were they in a slightly better team, like Malone, KG, Curry, and Nash. Many of the FMVPs would have ZERO chance of winning a regular MVP, they are just not good enough, like Parker, Billups, Iguodala... A few years MVPs might have been given to players who were arguably not top 5 players in the league, but more years FMVPs were given to players who were not even top 20.

[bebopdeluxe]

I voted FMVP. Yes, Iggy and Maxwell have won FMVP. So? Derrick Rose and Westbrook won season MVPs.

Here is how I see it- Barkley and Iverson would trade their season MVP for a FMVP in a heartbeat. I doubt any FMVPs would trade theirs for a season MVP.

FACTS

[And1+2]

Depends. MVP mostly, but I don't put much weight on the regular season.