Race for Ping Pong Balls

[drsd]

Atlanta is tied with Miami and NYKs in the L column, so every win matters. I expect a focused Hawks team to play Orlando.
That said, Atlanta is playing this home game on a BtB, and 3-games in 4 nights.

Get some sleep and eat your Wheaties!

[pepe1991]

Atlanta is tied with Miami and NYKs in the L column, so every win matters. I expect a focused Hawks team to play Orlando.
That said, Atlanta is playing this home game on a BtB, and 3-games in 4 nights.

Get some sleep and eat your Wheaties!

Miami beat Knicks all 3 times
Knicks beat Atlanta all 3 times
Atlanta beat Miami twice in 3 games

what a mess.

Anyway, most likley 2 of them will play each other in first round, and third team will play Bucks so there is motivation behind keeping 4th spot apart from home court adventage, if that thing is even a thing any more due 80% empty arenas.

Magic season will come down to last 3 games of semi motivated Atlanta and probably not motivated at all 76ers bench in last 2 games.
76ers can secure 1# spot if they beat Heat tonight. Also if they beat Heat, Heat probably can't catch up to 4th seed any more.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Detroit has:
Nuggets at Pistons for a 21.1% chance to win
Heat at Pistons for a 21.7% chance to win
(if true) That places the chance for Detroit to win one more game at 38.2%

OKC has:
Jazz at Thunder for a 14.3% chance to win
Clippers at Thunder for a 16.2% chance to win
(if true) That places the chance for OKC to win one more game at 28.2%

As important, (if the above is true) the odds that EITHER Detroit or OKC wins one game is 55.6%

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In case Orlando does not lose-out to close this season.

Cleveland has:
Cavs at Wizards for a 31.4% chance to win
Cavs at Nets for a 13.9% chance to win
(if true) That places the chance for Cleveland to win one more game at 40.9%

Minnesota has:
Nuggets at T-wolves for a 29.3% chance to win
Celts at T-wolves for a 33.9% chance to win
Mavs at T-wolves for a 28.7% chance to win
(if true) That places the chance for Minnesota to win one more game at 66.7.9%

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And on the notion of Orlando losing-out.

Orlando has:
Magic at Hawks for a 24.8% chance to win
Magic at Sixers for a 14.1.9% chance to win
Magic at Sixers for a 13.9% chance to win
(if true) That places the chance for Orlando to LOSE-OUT at 55.6%
To match the above:
(if true) That places the chance for Orlando to win one more game at 44.4%

That 2nd 76ers game has W written all over it. They’ll rest guys and we’ll close out hard to end on a good note.

[basketballRob]

Detroit has:
Nuggets at Pistons for a 21.1% chance to win
Heat at Pistons for a 21.7% chance to win
(if true) That places the chance for Detroit to win one more game at 38.2%

OKC has:
Jazz at Thunder for a 14.3% chance to win
Clippers at Thunder for a 16.2% chance to win
(if true) That places the chance for OKC to win one more game at 28.2%

As important, (if the above is true) the odds that EITHER Detroit or OKC wins one game is 55.6%

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In case Orlando does not lose-out to close this season.

Cleveland has:
Cavs at Wizards for a 31.4% chance to win
Cavs at Nets for a 13.9% chance to win
(if true) That places the chance for Cleveland to win one more game at 40.9%

Minnesota has:
Nuggets at T-wolves for a 29.3% chance to win
Celts at T-wolves for a 33.9% chance to win
Mavs at T-wolves for a 28.7% chance to win
(if true) That places the chance for Minnesota to win one more game at 66.7.9%

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And on the notion of Orlando losing-out.

Orlando has:
Magic at Hawks for a 24.8% chance to win
Magic at Sixers for a 14.1.9% chance to win
Magic at Sixers for a 13.9% chance to win
(if true) That places the chance for Orlando to LOSE-OUT at 55.6%
To match the above:
(if true) That places the chance for Orlando to win one more game at 44.4%

That 2nd 76ers game has W written all over it. They’ll rest guys and we’ll close out hard to end on a good note.

They just signed our former tank commander, Gary Clark.

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[Bergmaniac]

Fournier really came through for us last night, he had been so hot recently but against the Cavs he was bricking everything, LOL, great job.

Also big thanks to Kevin Love, he was unreal in the second half.

[Skybox]

Good Morning and Thank You Cleveland!

Regardless of Philly's motivation, we will be motivated by that point, IMO...if our scrubs get too hot, even Cliff will give them the hook by then. I think PHI's scrubs will be motivated to play well heading into the playoffs. I'm counting on the difference between "tanking" and "not caring either way" to win (lose) the day for ORL.

[drsd]

That 2nd 76ers game has W written all over it. They’ll rest guys and we’ll close out hard to end on a good note.

They just signed our former tank commander, Gary Clark.

There is a real chance that the only Magicians from the opening-night roster to win in the playoffs are Aaron Gordon and Gary Clark. Wow. What a pairing.

[drsd]

Good Morning and Thank You Cleveland!

Regardless of Philly's motivation, we will be motivated by that point, IMO...if our scrubs get too hot, even Cliff will give them the hook by then. I think PHI's scrubs will be motivated to play well heading into the playoffs. I'm counting on the difference between "tanking" and "not caring either way" to win (lose) the day for ORL.

Does Clifford have it in himself to do what Dwane Casey did when the Magic beat the Pistons; stop calling plays and let the players "figure it out"?

That's how a team TANKS.


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[drsd]

Does Clifford have it in himself to do what Dwane Casey did when the Magic beat the Pistons; stop calling plays and let the players "figure it out"?

That's how a team TANKS.


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Love this RealGM blurb:

Troy Weaver has been enthusiastic over Casey and his coaching staff's development of the franchise's young players.

Casey is well regarded by Tom Gores, who hired him three years ago.

So Detroit management is "enthusiastic" that their coach is actively working to lose games.

Hmm.


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[basketballRob]

Does Clifford have it in himself to do what Dwane Casey did when the Magic beat the Pistons; stop calling plays and let the players "figure it out"?

That's how a team TANKS.


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Love this RealGM blurb:

Troy Weaver has been enthusiastic over Casey and his coaching staff's development of the franchise's young players.

Casey is well regarded by Tom Gores, who hired him three years ago.

So Detroit management is "enthusiastic" that their coach is actively working to lose games.

Hmm.


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Weaver is regarded as some kind of draft genius by Pistons fans. I think they're over inflating him. Stewart, Hayes, and Bey really don't excite me. I thought Hayes was going to be more explosive, but he plays so slow that it's painful to watch. Dembouya isn't very good either, not sure why they'd pick up his option.

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[rcklsscognition]

Wow...Cleveland with the double fault. Now we just need to win tie breaker with OKC and then hope for the best.

There is no tiebreaker. Teams with the same record split the odds. Odd number of balls goes to a coin flip for one extra ball.

There is a tiebreaker to decide what order the tied teams actual draft once the top 4 picks are decided by the lotto.

[basketballRob]

Wow...Cleveland with the double fault. Now we just need to win tie breaker with OKC and then hope for the best.

There is no tiebreaker. Teams with the same record split the odds. Odd number of balls goes to a coin flip for one extra ball.

There is a tiebreaker to decide what order the tied teams actual draft once the top 4 picks are decided by the lotto.

They still split the combinations and will both have the same odds.

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[MagicFan101]

Is there any chance the Jazz or Clippers rest everyone and the Thunder somehow pickup a win?

Orlando just needs to take care of their own tank. That is the clear focus.

[Last Guardian]

Magic has tried to tank but they just didn't go the extra mile some of these teams did.....i mean to actively try to lose on the court like detroit did against us....OKC shutting down healthy players to focus on the youth but at the same time sitting those youth every other game....even Toronto sitting almost their entire starting lineup against us sans vanVleet. maybe it won't bite us in the azz? Those teams had no shame in what they were doing but for a while it seemed like we were above those kind of tactics.....

What? You want Magic who already field one of the worst rosters ever to go the extra mile? They did enough. This roster post trade deadline, had they played an entire year, doesn't win double digit games. Easily. I think a lot of Magic fans don't want to hear that though, they want to believe the Magic are good enough that they have to try to lose. Its laughable in my opinion to think the Magic didn't do enough. Sorry, we don't even have a guy on Horfords level to even force him to sit out thats how bad this team is. Best we could do is sit Ross, who isn't really that great to begin with, and we did sit him anyway.

well i mean obviously we're sitting where we are in the standings so we didn't do enough i think that's clear...that's not to say we didn't do nothing it's just we didn't start the tank early enough....i think when you trade away your three best players that should be a signal for everyone to be on the same page...With the trades plus the injuries it should've been a concerted effort from the FO to get the tank up and running immediately...but instead you had clifford talking about trying to make the play-in when other teams were already tanking....At this point we're pretty much locked in so it is what it is....maybe you think we did enough...i think we could've done more but didn't because it seems like we were above the most drastic of measures....even josh robbins put something out saying we shouldn't be above tanking and tanking tactics.....but hey we'll see i guess

Amazing. I'm suffering having to watch Bacon be the leader of this team and now I'm told we aren't doing enough to suck.

Only the Magic board could come up with this stuff. I guess Clifford should have talked about how they had to lose every game.

[thelead]

There is no tiebreaker. Teams with the same record split the odds. Odd number of balls goes to a coin flip for one extra ball.

There is a tiebreaker to decide what order the tied teams actual draft once the top 4 picks are decided by the lotto.

They still split the combinations and will both have the same odds.

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but one will be slotted lower than the other based on the coin toss to determine the floor of the draft pick

[thelead]

Is there any chance the Jazz or Clippers rest everyone and the Thunder somehow pickup a win?

Orlando just needs to take care of their own tank. That is the clear focus.

I just don't see them winning with the trash they're throwing out there. They are deliberately poorly coached as well. I've watched them a ton and the coaching staff doesn't intervene when they make high school mistakes/decisions.

[drsd]

Wow...Cleveland with the double fault. Now we just need to win tie breaker with OKC and then hope for the best.

There is no tiebreaker. Teams with the same record split the odds. Odd number of balls goes to a coin flip for one extra ball.

There is a tiebreaker to decide what order the tied teams actual draft once the top 4 picks are decided by the lotto.

Yes. There is a "coin flip" before the draft lottery that determines both the share of lotto balls, if they cannot be partitioned, and then the order of drafting. For example, if OKC and Orlando finish tied for 3 and 4, there are 140 + 125 balls to divide. So the winner of the pre-lotto lottery gets the extra lotto-ball combination (i.e. 133 chances to win over 132 chances) AND the higher pick if neither team goes top-4.

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[drsd]

Amazing. I'm suffering having to watch Bacon be the leader of this team and now I'm told we aren't doing enough to suck.

The Magic could have retained Gary Clark. There was more to do to pile on losses.


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[basketballRob]

There is a tiebreaker to decide what order the tied teams actual draft once the top 4 picks are decided by the lotto.

They still split the combinations and will both have the same odds.

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but one will be slotted lower than the other based on the coin toss to determine the floor of the draft pick

Yeah like 133 combinations, compared to 132. The top 2 get 140 apiece.

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[Last Guardian]

Amazing. I'm suffering having to watch Bacon be the leader of this team and now I'm told we aren't doing enough to suck.

The Magic could have retained Gary Clark. There was more to do to pile on losses.


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The losses were already piled on lol. What are people watching. The FEW games we actually won the other team really **** the bed, not our fault. This roster should lose almost every game. And they do.

My only complaint is they should have traded Vuc, Fournier and Gordon earlier in the season or if they were smarter...years ago.