TheNewEra wrote:PG13 heating up again
Kelphus wrote:What was with Cousins only getting 5 minutes, did he get hurt?
esqtvd wrote:Kelphus wrote:PG 13 has 3 TO's midway through 4th.. 5 assists. 20 points. Nice to see 15 point lead.
Zubac solid, 9 boards but 3 TO's
Oops I mean 18 pt lead... I'll take it.
Good defensive intensity
No Kennard, no Mann... with Ibaka coming back tomorrow, is Lue saying this is his ten man rotation (including Ibaka)?
I like Mann's energy, I like Kennard's shooting bursts... hate to see them get NO burn.
When he's right, we are a special team with Patrick Beverley. It will take a LOT for Ty to give up on him. He's just barely back from injury.
With Ibaka back we're already looking a 9-man playoff rotation with little time to whip them into a team. Mann and Kennard are panic buttons now.
As soon as PG gets out of his own head, hopefully he just does his job and stops trying to do anyone else's.
playaloc916 wrote:Nice to see Scrubb get a few minutes, got his first basket and played okay. Looks pretty athletic.
Even though the team turned the switch on in the second half, the sloppy turnovers need to stop. Teams are going to make us pay in the playoffs with all these turnovers.
And I don't know about the shot distribution in this game. PG with 19 shots and Reggie with 15. Kawhi only had 9 shots, and Morris had 8. I mean the team still won, but I'd like to see a more even distribution of shots.
TheNewEra wrote:Kelphus wrote:What was with Cousins only getting 5 minutes, did he get hurt?
Playoff rotations and defense will keep him limited or out of the rotation. 5-10mpg might be his max with Serge back tomorrow
Are We Having Fun Yet? 
Clemenza wrote:Feel free to rip PG and his shooting but playing with an inadequate guard like Pat Bev as a fellow starter doesn't help anyone or anything team wise. His so called amazing defense is not negating how bad he is on offense. There's almost no threat of him scoring nor making an assist for the team at all on the offensive end. Mann looked better than him even in garbage time which is another crime all to itself. I trust Ty Lue and I hope Pat Bev proves me wrong but I have no clue as to why he's starting and getting the minutes he's receiving.
RingColluder wrote:Clemenza wrote:Feel free to rip PG and his shooting but playing with an inadequate guard like Pat Bev as a fellow starter doesn't help anyone or anything team wise. His so called amazing defense is not negating how bad he is on offense. There's almost no threat of him scoring nor making an assist for the team at all on the offensive end. Mann looked better than him even in garbage time which is another crime all to itself. I trust Ty Lue and I hope Pat Bev proves me wrong but I have no clue as to why he's starting and getting the minutes he's receiving.
I agree, Bev isn't enough. But yet Morris still shoots fantastic despite him in.
I'd like to see Mann as well, I think it would help PG's game a lot to have someone who can DRIVE to the basket while he can spot up shoot (his main and most useful role).
RingColluder wrote:Clemenza wrote:Feel free to rip PG and his shooting but playing with an inadequate guard like Pat Bev as a fellow starter doesn't help anyone or anything team wise. His so called amazing defense is not negating how bad he is on offense. There's almost no threat of him scoring nor making an assist for the team at all on the offensive end. Mann looked better than him even in garbage time which is another crime all to itself. I trust Ty Lue and I hope Pat Bev proves me wrong but I have no clue as to why he's starting and getting the minutes he's receiving.
I agree, Bev isn't enough. But yet Morris still shoots fantastic despite him in.
I'd like to see Mann as well, I think it would help PG's game a lot to have someone who can DRIVE to the basket while he can spot up shoot (his main and most useful role).
Clemenza wrote:RingColluder wrote:Clemenza wrote:Feel free to rip PG and his shooting but playing with an inadequate guard like Pat Bev as a fellow starter doesn't help anyone or anything team wise. His so called amazing defense is not negating how bad he is on offense. There's almost no threat of him scoring nor making an assist for the team at all on the offensive end. Mann looked better than him even in garbage time which is another crime all to itself. I trust Ty Lue and I hope Pat Bev proves me wrong but I have no clue as to why he's starting and getting the minutes he's receiving.
I agree, Bev isn't enough. But yet Morris still shoots fantastic despite him in.
I'd like to see Mann as well, I think it would help PG's game a lot to have someone who can DRIVE to the basket while he can spot up shoot (his main and most useful role).
Morris shot the ball well no doubt but PG still had 10 boards, 6 assists, and helped contain Ball and Rozier on the defensive end despite his mediocre shooting. Can't really put Morris above him in this game
RingColluder wrote:esqtvd wrote:Kelphus wrote:PG 13 has 3 TO's midway through 4th.. 5 assists. 20 points. Nice to see 15 point lead.
Zubac solid, 9 boards but 3 TO's
Oops I mean 18 pt lead... I'll take it.
Good defensive intensity
No Kennard, no Mann... with Ibaka coming back tomorrow, is Lue saying this is his ten man rotation (including Ibaka)?
I like Mann's energy, I like Kennard's shooting bursts... hate to see them get NO burn.
When he's right, we are a special team with Patrick Beverley. It will take a LOT for Ty to give up on him. He's just barely back from injury.
With Ibaka back we're already looking a 9-man playoff rotation with little time to whip them into a team. Mann and Kennard are panic buttons now.
As soon as PG gets out of his own head, hopefully he just does his job and stops trying to do anyone else's.
Mann is the furthest thing from a panic button. Bev looks awful. He should be getting 6-8 minutes MAX.
Demarcus with only 5 minutes is troubling, I'm sure even less when Ibaka comes back.
And this is exactly how Paul George plays, every year it's a new excuse. I wouldn't count on anything but his standard 5-15 for most of the playoff games this year.. if he does better we can all be pleasantly surprised.
Clemenza wrote:Feel free to rip PG and his shooting but playing with an inadequate guard like Pat Bev as a fellow starter doesn't help anyone or anything team wise. His so called amazing defense is not negating how bad he is on offense. There's almost no threat of him scoring nor making an assist for the team at all on the offensive end. Mann looked better than him even in garbage time which is another crime all to itself. I trust Ty Lue and I hope Pat Bev proves me wrong but I have no clue as to why he's starting and getting the minutes he's receiving.
Are We Having Fun Yet? RingColluder wrote:Clemenza wrote:RingColluder wrote:
I agree, Bev isn't enough. But yet Morris still shoots fantastic despite him in.
I'd like to see Mann as well, I think it would help PG's game a lot to have someone who can DRIVE to the basket while he can spot up shoot (his main and most useful role).
Morris shot the ball well no doubt but PG still had 10 boards, 6 assists, and helped contain Ball and Rozier on the defensive end despite his mediocre shooting. Can't really put Morris above him in this game
Morris always shoots the ball phenomenally well. Currently SECOND in the league in 3pt FG% at 47.1. He's averaging 13.5 pts, Joe Harris #1 is at 14.1 and Bobby Portis #3 is 11.4
https://www.espn.com/nba/stats/player/_/table/offensive/sort/threePointFieldGoalPct/dir/desc
Now imagine if he got an extra 3-4 more shots instead of some of those garbage low IQ shots PG takes.We'd be better off AND PG would have more energy to play D and grab the boards.
PG is fantastic at getting the boards and playing defense. Playmaking.... not really. But this is just talking from an offensive perspective and a TEAM perspective. The goal is not to have PG score 30 pts a game and look great on highlights, it's to win games when it counts.
esqtvd wrote:Clemenza wrote:Feel free to rip PG and his shooting but playing with an inadequate guard like Pat Bev as a fellow starter doesn't help anyone or anything team wise. His so called amazing defense is not negating how bad he is on offense. There's almost no threat of him scoring nor making an assist for the team at all on the offensive end. Mann looked better than him even in garbage time which is another crime all to itself. I trust Ty Lue and I hope Pat Bev proves me wrong but I have no clue as to why he's starting and getting the minutes he's receiving.
These games are not Game 7. Our record with him and his plus/minus [3rd best on the team] were excellent before Bev got hurt. He will get every chance to get back where he was. Not only that but we return last year's starting lineup now that Ibaka has fallen off and Zu has the job.
We are HURTING for continuity. At least the starting 5 has some. And despite Bev's struggles since the All-Star break, we are 7-1 in the games he's played in. He is NOT hurting us.
Don't underestimate Bev's effect on Kawhi and PG and the possibility that THEY play better with Bev out there doing his high-energy thing. There's something called chemistry, and it's real. Last year the KL-PG-Zubac-Morris-Beverley lineup was SECOND in net rating in the NBA!! That's reason enough to play this out with Beverley.
As a mid-second-rounder in his 2nd year, for T-Mann to even be at the fringe of a playoff rotation for a MAJOR contender is a helluvan accomplishment. But hasn't and probably never will match the player that Bev has been at his best--a 3-time All-Defensive Team [one 1st and two 2nds]. That's SPECIAL.
We know what Mann can do. The Clippers owe it to themselves to find out if Bev can recapture that special form--and admittedly, damn quick. But if not, we have Reggie at the top of his game as backup. Unless Ty needs to hit the panic button, Mann will pick up minutes at the back of the rotation, not the front.
Reggie had another ANOTHER excellent game tonight. Just keeping things in perspective.
NickP wrote:RingColluder wrote:esqtvd wrote:
When he's right, we are a special team with Patrick Beverley. It will take a LOT for Ty to give up on him. He's just barely back from injury.
With Ibaka back we're already looking a 9-man playoff rotation with little time to whip them into a team. Mann and Kennard are panic buttons now.
As soon as PG gets out of his own head, hopefully he just does his job and stops trying to do anyone else's.
Mann is the furthest thing from a panic button. Bev looks awful. He should be getting 6-8 minutes MAX.
Demarcus with only 5 minutes is troubling, I'm sure even less when Ibaka comes back.
And this is exactly how Paul George plays, every year it's a new excuse. I wouldn't count on anything but his standard 5-15 for most of the playoff games this year.. if he does better we can all be pleasantly surprised.
Hate to point to the obvious in your posts that you know he's going to give you garbage then why are you so upset at PG? Isn't expecting differently from the same thing over and over again a...
Clemenza wrote:RingColluder wrote:Clemenza wrote:Morris shot the ball well no doubt but PG still had 10 boards, 6 assists, and helped contain Ball and Rozier on the defensive end despite his mediocre shooting. Can't really put Morris above him in this game
Morris always shoots the ball phenomenally well. Currently SECOND in the league in 3pt FG% at 47.1. He's averaging 13.5 pts, Joe Harris #1 is at 14.1 and Bobby Portis #3 is 11.4
https://www.espn.com/nba/stats/player/_/table/offensive/sort/threePointFieldGoalPct/dir/desc
Now imagine if he got an extra 3-4 more shots instead of some of those garbage low IQ shots PG takes.We'd be better off AND PG would have more energy to play D and grab the boards.
PG is fantastic at getting the boards and playing defense. Playmaking.... not really. But this is just talking from an offensive perspective and a TEAM perspective. The goal is not to have PG score 30 pts a game and look great on highlights, it's to win games when it counts.
Right and rebounds and defense is apart of the team's success. Trust me, I'm pro-Morris and love that he's on the team so I'm not pitting him against PG I'm just stating what actually happened in the game. And of course the goal isn't to get PG 30 points a game every time out. I'm only out for wins and deep playoff runs as well.
Clemenza wrote:esqtvd wrote:Clemenza wrote:Feel free to rip PG and his shooting but playing with an inadequate guard like Pat Bev as a fellow starter doesn't help anyone or anything team wise. His so called amazing defense is not negating how bad he is on offense. There's almost no threat of him scoring nor making an assist for the team at all on the offensive end. Mann looked better than him even in garbage time which is another crime all to itself. I trust Ty Lue and I hope Pat Bev proves me wrong but I have no clue as to why he's starting and getting the minutes he's receiving.
These games are not Game 7. Our record with him and his plus/minus [3rd best on the team] were excellent before Bev got hurt. He will get every chance to get back where he was. Not only that but we return last year's starting lineup now that Ibaka has fallen off and Zu has the job.
We are HURTING for continuity. At least the starting 5 has some. And despite Bev's struggles since the All-Star break, we are 7-1 in the games he's played in. He is NOT hurting us.
Don't underestimate Bev's effect on Kawhi and PG and the possibility that THEY play better with Bev out there doing his high-energy thing. There's something called chemistry, and it's real. Last year the KL-PG-Zubac-Morris-Beverley lineup was SECOND in net rating in the NBA!! That's reason enough to play this out with Beverley.
As a mid-second-rounder in his 2nd year, for T-Mann to even be at the fringe of a playoff rotation for a MAJOR contender is a helluvan accomplishment. But hasn't and probably never will match the player that Bev has been at his best--a 3-time All-Defensive Team [one 1st and two 2nds]. That's SPECIAL.
We know what Mann can do. The Clippers owe it to themselves to find out if Bev can recapture that special form--and admittedly, damn quick. But if not, we have Reggie at the top of his game as backup. Unless Ty needs to hit the panic button, Mann will pick up minutes at the back of the rotation, not the front.
Reggie had another ANOTHER excellent game tonight. Just keeping things in perspective.
. And you can't be serious with the "we're 7-1 in the games he's played in" when he's missed the majority of the season. He had 0 points and I assist on Tuesday and 2 points and 0 assist in tonight's game. That's unacceptable no matter how you slice it. Forget TMann that's just an unreal for a starting point guard in the league let alone a team trying to go for the ring. Trust me I'm rooting for Pat Bev to play well and shine on the court as it equates to wins for the team but I'm just not seeing it. Not to mention him leap-frogging more deserving players in the process. But I digress. I'll shut up about it and I hope he improves. On to the next one
esqtvd wrote:Clemenza wrote:Feel free to rip PG and his shooting but playing with an inadequate guard like Pat Bev as a fellow starter doesn't help anyone or anything team wise. His so called amazing defense is not negating how bad he is on offense. There's almost no threat of him scoring nor making an assist for the team at all on the offensive end. Mann looked better than him even in garbage time which is another crime all to itself. I trust Ty Lue and I hope Pat Bev proves me wrong but I have no clue as to why he's starting and getting the minutes he's receiving.
These games are not Game 7. Our record with him and his plus/minus [3rd best on the team] were excellent before Bev got hurt. He will get every chance to get back where he was. Not only that but we return last year's starting lineup now that Ibaka has fallen off and Zu has the job.
We are HURTING for continuity. At least the starting 5 has some. And despite Bev's struggles since the All-Star break, we are 7-1 in the games he's played in. He is NOT hurting us.
Don't underestimate Bev's effect on Kawhi and PG and the possibility that THEY play better with Bev out there doing his high-energy thing. There's something called chemistry, and it's real. Last year the KL-PG-Zubac-Morris-Beverley lineup was SECOND in net rating in the NBA!! That's reason enough to play this out with Beverley.
As a mid-second-rounder in his 2nd year, for T-Mann to even be at the fringe of a playoff rotation for a MAJOR contender is a helluvan accomplishment. But hasn't and probably never will match the player that Bev has been at his best--a 3-time All-Defensive Team [one 1st and two 2nds]. That's SPECIAL.
We know what Mann can do. The Clippers owe it to themselves to find out if Bev can recapture that special form--and admittedly, damn quick. But if not, we have Reggie at the top of his game as backup. Unless Ty needs to hit the panic button, Mann will pick up minutes at the back of the rotation, not the front.
Reggie had another ANOTHER excellent game tonight. Just keeping things in perspective.
RingColluder wrote:NickP wrote:RingColluder wrote:
Mann is the furthest thing from a panic button. Bev looks awful. He should be getting 6-8 minutes MAX.
Demarcus with only 5 minutes is troubling, I'm sure even less when Ibaka comes back.
And this is exactly how Paul George plays, every year it's a new excuse. I wouldn't count on anything but his standard 5-15 for most of the playoff games this year.. if he does better we can all be pleasantly surprised.
Hate to point to the obvious in your posts that you know he's going to give you garbage then why are you so upset at PG? Isn't expecting differently from the same thing over and over again a...
Why am I upset a max player refuses to change his style of play for the betterment of the team?
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