Who will be the most overrated player of the 2021 draft?

[Nazrmohamed]

Ok, let me see if I understood correctly: Davion Mitchel is a Lillard-esque shooter who also projects to be a top 5 defender at the PG position, all of this right out of the gates, as a rookie.

How is a prospect like that not talked about as a clear-cut top 1 pick?

Idk about Lillard but I do see alot of Kemba from an offensive standpoint and when you add defense that's a damn good player. Then again, hes also like 6ft 1 tops. So it's hard to say that that might translate against bigger, stronger, longer guys. Dunno, gotta wait and see. I don't think one can say yes or no but at the level he's at now yes, he looks like Kemba with defensive pekingese.

[CptCrunch]

If Davion is so great, can someone tell me how he only put up 14/2.7/5.5 as a senior in college?

Dame was at 24.5/5/4 (P/R/A) as a senior.

Curry was at 28.6/4/6 as a junior

If Davion is so great at shooting, can someone tell me why he is shooting 64% from FT, 66% last year, 68% 3 years ago.

I really don't remember any great shooter (aka stars) in the NBA shooting FT in the mid 60's%. We have some role players who can shoot corners but can't shoot free throws like Andre Iguodala, Bruce Bowen, Chandler Parsons, Dion Waiters.

If Davion is so quick, why can't he dominate with his lighting step the past 3 seasons?

Couldn't get minutes as a freshman at Auburn. Transferred, sat a year out. As a 21 year old junior, he averaged 9.9 ppg on 40% fg. I wouldn't call that someone who has an incredible first step. And his senior stats are posted above.

[Onus]

yes, there will always be busts, but again, if I am GM i am not picking a player thinking he's gonna be a bust lol...it's a risk analysis...ceiling vs. floor vs. bust potential etc...even tho Mitchell has a clearer path to contribute than someone like Jalen Johnson...doesn't mean Mitchell should be picked ahead of him.

ill ask this again...why was a guy like Jevon Carter or Tre Jones picked in the 2nd rounds but a guy like Mitchell should be lotto?

Because they aren't shooting 50/40 from the field. And they don't have Mitchell's elite quickness/burst

so is a 5 point difference in FG% for you is enough to justify taking someone from the 2nd all the way to lotto?

Add in Mitchell's ability to create massive space for his jumper and his ability to hit it yea. Last year Mitchell probably goes undrafted. Proving to be a shooter in today's nba is huge, if you can play defense better, and if you can create your own shot like what more can you want from a mid round prospect.

[Onus]

Ok, let me see if I understood correctly: Davion Mitchel is a Lillard-esque shooter who also projects to be a top 5 defender at the PG position, all of this right out of the gates, as a rookie.

How is a prospect like that not talked about as a clear-cut top 1 pick?

Idk about Lillard but I do see alot of Kemba from an offensive standpoint and when you add defense that's a damn good player. Then again, hes also like 6ft 1 tops. So it's hard to say that that might translate against bigger, stronger, longer guys. Dunno, gotta wait and see. I don't think one can say yes or no but at the level he's at now yes, he looks like Kemba with defensive pekingese.

His jumper really reminds me of Kemba's.

[Onus]

If Davion is so great, can someone tell me how he only put up 14/2.7/5.5 as a senior in college?

Dame was at 24.5/5/4 (P/R/A) as a senior.

Curry was at 28.6/4/6 as a junior

If Davion is so great at shooting, can someone tell me why he is shooting 64% from FT, 66% last year, 68% 3 years ago.

I really don't remember any great shooter (aka stars) in the NBA shooting FT in the mid 60's%. We have some role players who can shoot corners but can't shoot free throws like Andre Iguodala, Bruce Bowen, Chandler Parsons, Dion Waiters.

If Davion is so quick, why can't he dominate with his lighting step the past 3 seasons?

Couldn't get minutes as a freshman at Auburn. Transferred, sat a year out. As a 21 year old junior, he averaged 9.9 ppg on 40% fg. I wouldn't call that someone who has an incredible first step. And his senior stats are posted above.

He shares offensive burden with Jared Butler, who is probably a better offensive player than Mitchell.

Davion isn't a great shooter, but he's shown improvement in that area. Huge improvements. Maybe it's a mirage but player's can improve.

He dominated defensively with his lightning quickness. He just wasn't a good offensive player until this year.

If you can't see his incredible first step then you're not watching him and you're looking at box scores. His quickness should be readily apparent if you watch him.

[Stillwater]

If Davion is so great, can someone tell me how he only put up 14/2.7/5.5 as a senior in college?

Dame was at 24.5/5/4 (P/R/A) as a senior.

Curry was at 28.6/4/6 as a junior[/b]

[b]If Davion is so great at shooting, can someone tell me why he is shooting 64% from FT, 66% last year, 68% 3 years ago.

I really don't remember any great shooter (aka stars) in the NBA shooting FT in the mid 60's%. We have some role players who can shoot corners but can't shoot free throws like Andre Iguodala, Bruce Bowen, Chandler Parsons, Dion Waiters.

If Davion is so quick, why can't he dominate with his lighting step the past 3 seasons?

Couldn't get minutes as a freshman at Auburn. Transferred, sat a year out. As a 21 year old junior, he averaged 9.9 ppg on 40% fg. I wouldn't call that someone who has an incredible first step. And his senior stats are posted above.

against who in both cases most of those seasons? thats right nobody good.

[clyde21]

some of these Mitchell takes are bonkers, and exhibit A of why he's become so overrated, people acting like he's Steph or Dame on ball? just absurd. not grounded in reality at all. if you think he's that good on ball AND you think he's elite defensively, you should have him #1 on your board, no ifs or buts.

[CptCrunch]

If Davion is so great, can someone tell me how he only put up 14/2.7/5.5 as a senior in college?

Dame was at 24.5/5/4 (P/R/A) as a senior.

Curry was at 28.6/4/6 as a junior[/b]

[b]If Davion is so great at shooting, can someone tell me why he is shooting 64% from FT, 66% last year, 68% 3 years ago.

I really don't remember any great shooter (aka stars) in the NBA shooting FT in the mid 60's%. We have some role players who can shoot corners but can't shoot free throws like Andre Iguodala, Bruce Bowen, Chandler Parsons, Dion Waiters.

If Davion is so quick, why can't he dominate with his lighting step the past 3 seasons?

Couldn't get minutes as a freshman at Auburn. Transferred, sat a year out. As a 21 year old junior, he averaged 9.9 ppg on 40% fg. I wouldn't call that someone who has an incredible first step. And his senior stats are posted above.

against who in both cases most of those seasons? thats right nobody good.

Doubling up Davion's scoring without shooting 64% from FT against 'nobody good' in Division I basketball is good enough for me.

Ultimate the argument for Davion Mitchell boils down to this:

He is really good at shooting, elite at defense (but his stats don't show it because his team has another similar if not better NBA player in Jared Butler). We got to eye tests Davion's skills, and we swear the dude will put up better stats in the NBA than in college as a senior.

[GSWFan1994]

some of these Mitchell takes are bonkers, and exhibit A of why he's become so overrated, people acting like he's Steph or Dame on ball? just absurd. not grounded in reality at all. if you think he's that good on ball AND you think he's elite defensively, you should have him #1 on your board, no ifs or buts.

At the rate these takes are going, next month there will be people saying he's a better prospect than Chris Paul.

I mean, not Wake Forest Chris Paul, but THE Chris Paul.

[Stillwater]

lol @ Mitchell being a Dame level shooter...wtf?

Mitchell can't even hit 65% of his FTs as a senior in college.

His change of direction speed is far superior to anyone else in this class good luck stopping him.
if he had a 90% ft rate I guess then you would ignore the fact he is the better prospect than his back court buddy your pal Butler at this point right? smh
I am surprised you would claim what you do at the notion that somebody dropping shots like nothing like he does is somehow negated by having a meh ft rate

what makes him a better prospect than Butler?

I just see an underwhelming athlete in Butler more than anything. Obviously Butler is the more skilled prospect compared to Mitchell at the same age so who knows what he becomes but I don't see enough dynamic athleticism to get the same projection in 2 years aka what Mitchell is now.

[Stillwater]

If Davion is so great, can someone tell me how he only put up 14/2.7/5.5 as a senior in college?

Dame was at 24.5/5/4 (P/R/A) as a senior.

Curry was at 28.6/4/6 as a junior[/b]

[b]If Davion is so great at shooting, can someone tell me why he is shooting 64% from FT, 66% last year, 68% 3 years ago.

I really don't remember any great shooter (aka stars) in the NBA shooting FT in the mid 60's%. We have some role players who can shoot corners but can't shoot free throws like Andre Iguodala, Bruce Bowen, Chandler Parsons, Dion Waiters.

If Davion is so quick, why can't he dominate with his lighting step the past 3 seasons?

Couldn't get minutes as a freshman at Auburn. Transferred, sat a year out. As a 21 year old junior, he averaged 9.9 ppg on 40% fg. I wouldn't call that someone who has an incredible first step. And his senior stats are posted above.

against who in both cases most of those seasons? thats right nobody good.

Doubling up Davion's scoring without shooting 64% from FT against 'nobody good' in Division I basketball is good enough for me.

Ultimate the argument for Davion Mitchell boils down to this:

He is really good at shooting, elite at defense (but his stats don't show it because his team has another similar if not better NBA player in Jared Butler). We got to eye tests Davion's skills, and we swear the dude will put up better stats in the NBA than in college as a senior.

Outside scrutiny about ft % I am saying Butler with him is why as well that he did not put up those stats you are claiming are indicators of anything. Mitchell is going to be a legit starter in the NBA within 2 years unless he gets drafted by a team that already has one at the 1 and he becomes an elite back up until he can get paid to stay or bail

[EMG518]

Give me both guys out of Tennessee or out of Texas over the two from Baylor. They are both overrated.

I don't understand what some of you are even watching.

[God Squad]

If Davion is so great, can someone tell me how he only put up 14/2.7/5.5 as a senior in college?

Dame was at 24.5/5/4 (P/R/A) as a senior.

Curry was at 28.6/4/6 as a junior

[b]If Davion is so great at shooting, can someone tell me why he is shooting 64% from FT, 66% last year, 68% 3 years ago.
[/b]
I really don't remember any great shooter (aka stars) in the NBA shooting FT in the mid 60's%. We have some role players who can shoot corners but can't shoot free throws like Andre Iguodala, Bruce Bowen, Chandler Parsons, Dion Waiters.

If Davion is so quick, why can't he dominate with his lighting step the past 3 seasons?

Couldn't get minutes as a freshman at Auburn. Transferred, sat a year out. As a 21 year old junior, he averaged 9.9 ppg on 40% fg. I wouldn't call that someone who has an incredible first step. And his senior stats are posted above.

This is the part Davion fans like to ignore or pivot. Terrible free throw shooter and FT's have always been a good indications of how it could translate to the NBA.

[God Squad]

If Davion is so great, can someone tell me how he only put up 14/2.7/5.5 as a senior in college?

Dame was at 24.5/5/4 (P/R/A) as a senior.

Curry was at 28.6/4/6 as a junior[/b]

[b]If Davion is so great at shooting, can someone tell me why he is shooting 64% from FT, 66% last year, 68% 3 years ago.

I really don't remember any great shooter (aka stars) in the NBA shooting FT in the mid 60's%. We have some role players who can shoot corners but can't shoot free throws like Andre Iguodala, Bruce Bowen, Chandler Parsons, Dion Waiters.

If Davion is so quick, why can't he dominate with his lighting step the past 3 seasons?

Couldn't get minutes as a freshman at Auburn. Transferred, sat a year out. As a 21 year old junior, he averaged 9.9 ppg on 40% fg. I wouldn't call that someone who has an incredible first step. And his senior stats are posted above.

against who in both cases most of those seasons? thats right nobody good.

Dame played nobody's, Curry did the opposite and exploded,brought a bum Davidson team to the elite 8. Curry run was very impressive IMO.

[God Squad]

Give me both guys out of Tennessee or out of Texas over the two from Baylor. They are both overrated.

I don't understand what some of you are even watching.

Yup, Springer /Keon and Kai Jones I'll be watching these three closely.

[Kobblehead]

I get that Mitchell lacked early demonstration of excellence and his shooting percentages are a bit flukey, given his poor free throw accuracy.

But if you account for the complete package, it's worth the shot in the top 10.

Physical traits, he's outstanding.

Skillset-wise, he's a three level creator with a quick trigger from three and solid passing ability and potentially excellent defense. Those are all marks of an elite, franchise talent. Not saying Mitchell will be that, just saying he ticks all the boxes of guys that are.

[Stillwater]

If Davion is so great, can someone tell me how he only put up 14/2.7/5.5 as a senior in college?

Dame was at 24.5/5/4 (P/R/A) as a senior.

Curry was at 28.6/4/6 as a junior[/b]

[b]If Davion is so great at shooting, can someone tell me why he is shooting 64% from FT, 66% last year, 68% 3 years ago.

I really don't remember any great shooter (aka stars) in the NBA shooting FT in the mid 60's%. We have some role players who can shoot corners but can't shoot free throws like Andre Iguodala, Bruce Bowen, Chandler Parsons, Dion Waiters.

If Davion is so quick, why can't he dominate with his lighting step the past 3 seasons?

Couldn't get minutes as a freshman at Auburn. Transferred, sat a year out. As a 21 year old junior, he averaged 9.9 ppg on 40% fg. I wouldn't call that someone who has an incredible first step. And his senior stats are posted above.

against who in both cases most of those seasons? thats right nobody good.

Dame played nobody's, Curry did the opposite and exploded,brought a bum Davidson team to the elite 8. Curry run was very impressive IMO.

The point is the averages are regular season there buddy... of course Steph dominated in the dance until he didnt lol
guess who else did? thats right Mitchell and he was the reason they cut down the nets
This whole idea he is what many of these younger prospects might become is not lessening his value as a prospect except the absolutely elite ceiling ones where that becomes a real thing. I mean if you actually think low iq athletic freaks like Keon will develop in the league at a faster rate that they help your team anytime before they them self are 23 or 24 go for it

[EMG518]

Give me both guys out of Tennessee or out of Texas over the two from Baylor. They are both overrated.

I don't understand what some of you are even watching.

Yup, Springer /Keon and Kai Jones I'll be watching these three closely.

Watch Greg Brown as well from Texas.

[shakes0]

against who in both cases most of those seasons? thats right nobody good.

Dame played nobody's, Curry did the opposite and exploded,brought a bum Davidson team to the elite 8. Curry run was very impressive IMO.

The point is the averages are regular season there buddy..

you sure about that Stillwater?

[Stillwater]

Dame played nobody's, Curry did the opposite and exploded,brought a bum Davidson team to the elite 8. Curry run was very impressive IMO.

The point is the averages are regular season there buddy..

you sure about that Stillwater?

If it isn't I will stand corrected but it is.
The point is anyone hating on Davion for being a champion and the key reason for it is a nutcase