nfmos wrote:svart wrote:Eddy_JukeZ wrote:
He always has been since like 2015.
I am actually not sure on that one. KD is an amazing player.
And you know, you can't teach lenght. And that us working for KD
No, Steph definitely is better. KD is probably a better one on one or isolation player, but the facts are Curry got the squad he started with to a title, KD didn't do that, Harden didn't do that, CP3 didn't do that, etc.
And before people say "well he had stacked teams", no one at all was anointing Draymond or Klay as evidence of a stacked team in their early years, definitely not comparing to the squads these other players had. Steph just happens to help and allow his teammates to keep better in a way that a unselfish and legendary off-ball player can, and that a ball dominant player never could. Look at how he has taken the team he was gifted this year with players like Wiggins, JTA, Bazemore etc, and helped get them to a dangerous team by the end of the season. A lot of that of course is the coaching staff building the team around Curry's strengths, but it starts with him.
And beyond the on the court stuff, its his leadership style and humble personality, he never blamed his teammates, he didnt demand trades, he had the commitment and all-in dedication to stay and help build this team, and obviously didnt wear out his welcome like many demanding stars have.
So maybe if you need one player to be able to make his own shot at the end of game, maybe KD is that guy. But if you want a player that helps makes the team better to the point that it isn't always coming down to one desperation shot, Steph is that guy. And i think that's what confuses people that try to judge his legacy. Its hard to showcase a lot of hero ball when you dont play a lot of 4th quarters or one of your greatest impacts is drawing multiple defenders to leave a teammate with a wide open basket.
They put that stat up where the only 4 players to get multiple scoring titles, multiple mvps, and multiple championships are Jordan, Wilt, Kareem, and now Steph. Its funny how Steph keeps coincidentally achieving all these benchmarks, including the team ones, and yet many are still hesitant to call him an all time great. I think just as Steph has redefined the role of the 3pointer in the game, he has also redefined the way that people measure a great player, sometimes its not about hero ball and carrying a team on his back. Sometimes its helping the team get the point where it doesnt need someone to save them all the time.