Who are you eyeing with the Chicago pick?

[RookieStar]

Don't know why I'm not a Kuminga fan, maybe its fit, maybe it's because we've drafted so many athletes who can't shoot, just not a fan. Okeke over Kuminga everytime for me

I already slotted him in as the starting 3. lol

I would love to see what the combination of ball movement and defense between a lineup of

Fultz/Harris/Chuma/Isaac/Carter would be.

I see Chuma eventually playing the 3. Just not sure if it will be next season. I'm sure we will see that lineup at times next season.

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Same with me.

There was a time when Kuminga was projected to be the #1 draft choice over Suggs/Cade/etc. I really think choosing the Gleague hurts his stocks/brand rather than go to a powerhouse school. He wasn't able to show that much of his arsenal and only showed...how many games was it? If you guys saw/read that Jalen Green piece where he said if he went to the NCAA , he would be the #1 talk about pick rather than Cade.

But all things else, I think he is a PF that can try to moonlight as a wing. Seeing as that experiment we had with JI/AG not that successful, thus Im not a fan as well.

[Howard Mass]

Don't know why I'm not a Kuminga fan, maybe its fit, maybe it's because we've drafted so many athletes who can't shoot, just not a fan. Okeke over Kuminga everytime for me

I see Chuma eventually playing the 3. Just not sure if it will be next season. I'm sure we will see that lineup at times next season.

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Same with me.

There was a time when Kuminga was projected to be the #1 draft choice over Suggs/Cade/etc. I really think choosing the Gleague hurts his stocks/brand rather than go to a powerhouse school. He wasn't able to show that much of his arsenal and only showed...how many games was it? If you guys saw/read that Jalen Green piece where he said if he went to the NCAA , he would be the #1 talk about pick rather than Cade.

But all things else, I think he is a PF that can try to moonlight as a wing. Seeing as that experiment we had with JI/AG not that successful, thus Im not a fan as well.

I like Kuminga although he might be the right fit for this team.

If The Magic get #5 and Cunningham, Mobley, Suggs and Green are off the board, I'd take him as BPA.

[RookieStar]

Don't know why I'm not a Kuminga fan, maybe its fit, maybe it's because we've drafted so many athletes who can't shoot, just not a fan. Okeke over Kuminga everytime for me

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Same with me.

There was a time when Kuminga was projected to be the #1 draft choice over Suggs/Cade/etc. I really think choosing the Gleague hurts his stocks/brand rather than go to a powerhouse school. He wasn't able to show that much of his arsenal and only showed...how many games was it? If you guys saw/read that Jalen Green piece where he said if he went to the NCAA , he would be the #1 talk about pick rather than Cade.

But all things else, I think he is a PF that can try to moonlight as a wing. Seeing as that experiment we had with JI/AG not that successful, thus Im not a fan as well.

I like Kuminga although he might be the right fit for this team.

If The Magic get #5 and Cunningham, Mobley, Suggs and Green are off the board, I'd take him as BPA.

Oh I agree.. as of right now and everything remains the same, Kuminga's hype, athleticism and potential is levels above the Moody, Barnes,Wagner, etc of the draft. He is the BPA after the top-4. Shame that J.Johnson and Zaire didn't fullfill theirprojection of being able to crack that top-5 tier.

[yoyojw17]

Same with me.

There was a time when Kuminga was projected to be the #1 draft choice over Suggs/Cade/etc. I really think choosing the Gleague hurts his stocks/brand rather than go to a powerhouse school. He wasn't able to show that much of his arsenal and only showed...how many games was it? If you guys saw/read that Jalen Green piece where he said if he went to the NCAA , he would be the #1 talk about pick rather than Cade.

But all things else, I think he is a PF that can try to moonlight as a wing. Seeing as that experiment we had with JI/AG not that successful, thus Im not a fan as well.

I like Kuminga although he might be the right fit for this team.

If The Magic get #5 and Cunningham, Mobley, Suggs and Green are off the board, I'd take him as BPA.

Oh I agree.. as of right now and everything remains the same, Kuminga's hype, athleticism and potential is levels above the Moody, Barnes,Wagner, etc of the draft. He is the BPA after the top-4. Shame that J.Johnson and Zaire didn't fullfill theirprojection of being able to crack that top-5 tier.

I would take him too. He is the biggest pile of puddy in this draft.... and i think he can be made into a top player out of this draft... or a "Meh" one that plays in the league for years as a potential player at the age of 32. lol. But Woulddefinintely take the chance. We'll see what the analysis team thinks. Surprisingly you said.... Johnson and Williams... those would be player i would be looking at at the chicago pick.

[RookieStar]

I like Kuminga although he might be the right fit for this team.

If The Magic get #5 and Cunningham, Mobley, Suggs and Green are off the board, I'd take him as BPA.

Oh I agree.. as of right now and everything remains the same, Kuminga's hype, athleticism and potential is levels above the Moody, Barnes,Wagner, etc of the draft. He is the BPA after the top-4. Shame that J.Johnson and Zaire didn't fullfill theirprojection of being able to crack that top-5 tier.

I would take him too. He is the biggest pile of puddy in this draft.... and i think he can be made into a top player out of this draft... or a "Meh" one that plays in the league for years as a potential player at the age of 32. lol. But Woulddefinintely take the chance. We'll see what the analysis team thinks. Surprisingly you said.... Johnson and Williams... those would be player i would be looking at at the chicago pick.

If the CHI pick is on the 13-14 then yeah I agree with those 2 as well. But if its 8-10 i wanna see if Wagner,Moody is still available.

[yoyojw17]

Soooooooo..... If by chance we're in a position to get Mobley .... what do you'll think that the Chicago pick + bamba/carter can get up.... assuming we stay in the same position OR Would you'll want to move up in the draft or use them to maybe get a young talent from another team in the package.

[pepe1991]

So, Bulls pick will probably be 10th or 11th pick. Or they keep it. So drafting either BPA, high potential guy.
Their late season win streak (5 of 7) killed any chance of us getting 7,8 or 9th pick from them, but also killed their odds to have top 4 pick.

[The Effect]

Soooooooo..... If by chance we're in a position to get Mobley .... what do you'll think that the Chicago pick + bamba/carter can get up.... assuming we stay in the same position OR Would you'll want to move up in the draft or use them to maybe get a young talent from another team in the package.

If you mean bulls pick+wc or bamba for Mobley, then yeah id do that

If you mean we get 5th pick and then trade #5+wc\bamba for #2 (mobley), then hell no, im out!

[pepe1991]

Soooooooo..... If by chance we're in a position to get Mobley .... what do you'll think that the Chicago pick + bamba/carter can get up.... assuming we stay in the same position OR Would you'll want to move up in the draft or use them to maybe get a young talent from another team in the package.

If you mean bulls pick+wc or bamba for Mobley, then yeah id do that

If you mean we get 5th pick and then trade #5+wc\bamba for #2 (mobley), then hell no, im out!

Only fool would pass on that trade.
We know what Bamba & Wendell are, not long term starting options. Bamba is marginal rotation peace at best.

Evan Mobley is very,very talented center who at college showed way more than Bamba or Wendell did. From pure talent perspective he is easly top 3 player in this draft and probably only player with potential to be two way star.

Bulls pick is 10-11 range, you won't get star there, or at least odds for one are not that high. And Bamba & Wendell won't go into Captain America transformation chember and turn into good players over few months after failing to improve in 3 years.

[basketballRob]

So, Bulls pick will probably be 10th or 11th pick. Or they keep it. So drafting either BPA, high potential guy.
Their late season win streak (5 of 7) killed any chance of us getting 7,8 or 9th pick from them, but also killed their odds to have top 4 pick.

Don't they still have to do a coin flip to set the order between 8-10? So they could still possibly end up 8th.

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[basketballRob]

With the way Hampton and Ball have played this year, I think you have to consider Giddey with the Bulls pick.

He's not as good offensively as Doncic, but he's put up comparable stats in an international league, at 18.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/josh-giddey-1.html

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[pepe1991]

With the way Hampton and Ball have played this year, I think you have to consider Giddey with the Bulls pick.

He's not as good offensively as Doncic, but he's put up comparable stats in an international league, at 18.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/josh-giddey-1.html

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One played second strongest basketball league in the world, other played in Australia...

If you rank leagues by strenghts, Australia isn't even top 10 strongest league in the world. I tried to put up my rankings, 14 was highest i could rank it.

Similarities are that both are white and playmakers in non US leagues.

[basketballRob]

With the way Hampton and Ball have played this year, I think you have to consider Giddey with the Bulls pick.

He's not as good offensively as Doncic, but he's put up comparable stats in an international league, at 18.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/josh-giddey-1.html

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One played second strongest basketball league in the world, other played in Australia...

If you rank leagues by strenghts, Australia isn't even top 10 strongest league in the world. I tried to put up my rankings, 14 was highest i could rank it.

Similarities are that both are white and playmakers in non US leagues.

The rebounding, assists, a 3 pt percentage are similar. Ball had the same numbers also last season. Nothing to do with race, it's age and numbers.

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[pepe1991]

With the way Hampton and Ball have played this year, I think you have to consider Giddey with the Bulls pick.

He's not as good offensively as Doncic, but he's put up comparable stats in an international league, at 18.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/josh-giddey-1.html

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One played second strongest basketball league in the world, other played in Australia...

If you rank leagues by strenghts, Australia isn't even top 10 strongest league in the world. I tried to put up my rankings, 14 was highest i could rank it.

Similarities are that both are white and playmakers in non US leagues.

The rebounding, assists, a 3 pt percentage are similar. Ball had the same numbers also last season. Nothing to do with race, it's age and numbers.

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Different leagues , different level of competition = different outlook of stats. Averaging 18 ppg in Euroleague championship roster is super impressive.
Averaging 18 ppg at age of 18 not so much ( Emmanuel Mudiay before nba ). In China.

Outcomes of those prospects and how their stats translated say enough.

[tiderulz]

Soooooooo..... If by chance we're in a position to get Mobley .... what do you'll think that the Chicago pick + bamba/carter can get up.... assuming we stay in the same position OR Would you'll want to move up in the draft or use them to maybe get a young talent from another team in the package.

If you mean bulls pick+wc or bamba for Mobley, then yeah id do that

If you mean we get 5th pick and then trade #5+wc\bamba for #2 (mobley), then hell no, im out!

Only fool would pass on that trade.
We know what Bamba & Wendell are, not long term starting options. Bamba is marginal rotation peace at best.

Evan Mobley is very,very talented center who at college showed way more than Bamba or Wendell did. From pure talent perspective he is easly top 3 player in this draft and probably only player with potential to be two way star.

Bulls pick is 10-11 range, you won't get star there, or at least odds for one are not that high. And Bamba & Wendell won't go into Captain America transformation chember and turn into good players over few months after failing to improve in 3 years.

WCJ in college, 14/9, 2bpg, 40% from 3 (granted on just 1 fga/game, but still)
Mobley in college, 16/9, 3 bpg, 30% from 3 (on 1 fga/game also)

personally, i would say he only showed "a little more", not "way more"

and Bulls pick is 8-10 range.

[pepe1991]

If you mean bulls pick+wc or bamba for Mobley, then yeah id do that

If you mean we get 5th pick and then trade #5+wc\bamba for #2 (mobley), then hell no, im out!

Only fool would pass on that trade.
We know what Bamba & Wendell are, not long term starting options. Bamba is marginal rotation peace at best.

Evan Mobley is very,very talented center who at college showed way more than Bamba or Wendell did. From pure talent perspective he is easly top 3 player in this draft and probably only player with potential to be two way star.

Bulls pick is 10-11 range, you won't get star there, or at least odds for one are not that high. And Bamba & Wendell won't go into Captain America transformation chember and turn into good players over few months after failing to improve in 3 years.

WCJ in college, 14/9, 2bpg, 40% from 3 (granted on just 1 fga/game, but still)
Mobley in college, 16/9, 3 bpg, 30% from 3 (on 1 fga/game also)

personally, i would say he only showed "a little more", not "way more"

and Bulls pick is 8-10 range.

Evan is taller, more mobile, faster, has better defensive insticts, covers way more ground, simply better projection of future than Wendell.


And it's hindsight but, Wendell ,from year 1 in nba to year 3, showed virtually no progress whatsoever.

[tiderulz]

Only fool would pass on that trade.
We know what Bamba & Wendell are, not long term starting options. Bamba is marginal rotation peace at best.

Evan Mobley is very,very talented center who at college showed way more than Bamba or Wendell did. From pure talent perspective he is easly top 3 player in this draft and probably only player with potential to be two way star.

Bulls pick is 10-11 range, you won't get star there, or at least odds for one are not that high. And Bamba & Wendell won't go into Captain America transformation chember and turn into good players over few months after failing to improve in 3 years.

WCJ in college, 14/9, 2bpg, 40% from 3 (granted on just 1 fga/game, but still)
Mobley in college, 16/9, 3 bpg, 30% from 3 (on 1 fga/game also)

personally, i would say he only showed "a little more", not "way more"

and Bulls pick is 8-10 range.

Evan is taller, more mobile, faster, has better defensive insticts, covers way more ground, simply better projection of future than Wendell.


And it's hindsight but, Wendell ,from year 1 in nba to year 3, showed virtually no progress whatsoever.

ok, but thats changing your argument. in college, Mobley did not show "way more" than WCJ. and he does not show ability to shoot from the outside right now

[RookieStar]

I dunnno what the arguement regarding Mobley vs WCJ is and rrgarding their numbers. However just bear in nind that Mobley is/was practically the center of their offense. Meaning they look to him almost evry chance they get and force fed him the ball. WCJ, if you all remember, was the last in the totem pole in that stacked Duke team. He wasnt even the 1st big optiom, Bagley was. They practically wanted him to be their garbage man and rebound the misses of their Duval, GTJ amd Graysons wing production.

So whatever offensive production WCJ produced, it was to all purpose, accidental or an afterthought compared to Mobley.

[drsd]

So, Bulls pick will probably be 10th or 11th pick. Or they keep it. So drafting either BPA, high potential guy.
Their late season win streak (5 of 7) killed any chance of us getting 7,8 or 9th pick from them, but also killed their odds to have top 4 pick.

Don't they still have to do a coin flip to set the order between 8-10? So they could still possibly end up 8th.

As of today, the most probable outcome of the Bulls pick is the 9th pick in the draft, which obviously conveys. This changes after the pre-lottery lottery to see if Chicago slots 8, 9, or 10. But the odds before flipping coins, we Magic fans should be mentally discussing who will go 9th in this draft.

Also, the odds the pick conveys (i.e. the Bulls do not go top-4) is 79.73%. And yes Magic fans, it is mathematically possible this pick conveys as the 14th pick in the draft (at a less than 1/100,000 chance; but it is still possible!). Worse: if that does happen, it means the Magic's own pick is 7th.

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[yoyojw17]

If you mean bulls pick+wc or bamba for Mobley, then yeah id do that

If you mean we get 5th pick and then trade #5+wc\bamba for #2 (mobley), then hell no, im out!

Only fool would pass on that trade.
We know what Bamba & Wendell are, not long term starting options. Bamba is marginal rotation peace at best.

Evan Mobley is very,very talented center who at college showed way more than Bamba or Wendell did. From pure talent perspective he is easly top 3 player in this draft and probably only player with potential to be two way star.

Bulls pick is 10-11 range, you won't get star there, or at least odds for one are not that high. And Bamba & Wendell won't go into Captain America transformation chember and turn into good players over few months after failing to improve in 3 years.

WCJ in college, 14/9, 2bpg, 40% from 3 (granted on just 1 fga/game, but still)
Mobley in college, 16/9, 3 bpg, 30% from 3 (on 1 fga/game also)

personally, i would say he only showed "a little more", not "way more"

and Bulls pick is 8-10 range.

My bad.... I meant.... If we got the #2 or 3 pick... and felt that Mobley was the best option..... would we roll out with a three headed big man position filled with potential... or would you'll want to trade the chicago pick+bamba to either move up... or get another you player from another team.