No thread on Bosh making the hall of fame?

[v1n5anity]

Don't care about Bosh. Just comes off as a loser who thinks he's cool because he's teammates with Lebron and won a championship with him. I also don't like how he associates himself too much with the Heat. I get it. But when you see him, for me, he's more associated with the Raps. He even literally looks like a Raptor, lmao!

[WuTang_CMB]

Bosh re-signed with us, Kawhi left after one year.

Get out of bed.

Bosh talked crap about us. Left us after being a franchise guy. And gave us losing seasons.

Kawhi did his job and dipped.

So ya i dont care about Bosh, salami.

While I do agree with you about the talking crap part, it was a dickish move. But he did resign while Kawhi left because he never wanted to be here, even though there was a good chance to repeat. Also, Bosh had a very crappy team compared to Kawhi.

Having said that, I'm not that big a fan of Bosh but you got to give him some props if you're going to rip him as well.

I dont need to. My initial statement was i dont care that he got in the HOF just like he didnt care about us lol
I think that's fair and valid.

[Slade3]

Bosh talked crap about us. Left us after being a franchise guy. And gave us losing seasons.

Kawhi did his job and dipped.

So ya i dont care about Bosh, salami.

While I do agree with you about the talking crap part, it was a dickish move. But he did resign while Kawhi left because he never wanted to be here, even though there was a good chance to repeat. Also, Bosh had a very crappy team compared to Kawhi.

Having said that, I'm not that big a fan of Bosh but you got to give him some props if you're going to rip him as well.

I dont need to. My initial statement was i dont care that he got in the HOF just like he didnt care about us lol
I think that's fair and valid.

Ok, that's fair.

[Basketball_Jones]

I think judging by the remarks in this thread, it's even more surprising he made hall of fame. It's not just Raptor fans, but he didn't resonate highly in the US either.

[Anticon]

No meaningful playoff success in 7 years. Not a single memorable playoff moment.

You can blame BC or Babcock, but it wasn't their fault he got shut down by Jason Collins.

Compare that to DeRozan, Lowry, Norm, Fred, Pascal, OG, Kawhi, Marc, even Vasquez. We don't react because theres very little to remember.

He also had trouble with Dwight Howard. So in other words, he didn't dominate two top defensive players. Collins finished 1st in NBA in DRAPM in 05. I'd say it was definitely Raptors fault Bosh didn't have more success as a Raptor.

It's s not that he didn't dominate, he was dominated. Which is, to be honest, a question for his hall of fame case.

Management whiffed on all drafts after 03, so the teams overall performance is on them. But Bosh didn't do himself any favours.

[Darkseid]

Ru Paul

[VanWest82]

No meaningful playoff success in 7 years. Not a single memorable playoff moment.

You can blame BC or Babcock, but it wasn't their fault he got shut down by Jason Collins.

Compare that to DeRozan, Lowry, Norm, Fred, Pascal, OG, Kawhi, Marc, even Vasquez. We don't react because theres very little to remember.

He also had trouble with Dwight Howard. So in other words, he didn't dominate two top defensive players. Collins finished 1st in NBA in DRAPM in 05. I'd say it was definitely Raptors fault Bosh didn't have more success as a Raptor.

It's s not that he didn't dominate, he was dominated. Which is, to be honest, a question for his hall of fame case.

Management whiffed on all drafts after 03, so the teams overall performance is on them. But Bosh didn't do himself any favours.

He really struggled vs. Collins who was one of the best big man defenders of that era. He also put up 24/9/3 on 56% TS vs. Dwight the following year. Can't really say he was the reason we lost that series.

Bosh made 11 all star teams and was a central figure on the Heatles. He had plenty of big playoff moments for Miami even if his numbers weren't HOF worthy. His rebound and pass to Ray Allen was what saved their 2013 title. If he'd had a little more help in Toronto he might have had more chances for playoff moments.

[rapstarter]

He couldn't even dominate Mikki Moore, and that was his defining playoffs performance for us.

Him getting into the HOF has everything to do with him joining LeBron and Wade, and not much with us.

[Dennis 37]

The man made no one else better. A team leader has that effect on people. Look at the comments today from Khem Birch and FVV on the leadership greatness of Kyle Lowry. Bosh did not have that.

That's pretty uncharitable to Bosh. He was 25 in his last year here. Lowry, for example, was still in Houston when he was 25 and I don't think all that many people considered him a great leader at that point. Maybe CB turns into that guy 5 years later with Masai at the helm as well.

Maybe so, it was his choice to leave before he became that leader. So should we honour him for that choice, or do we reserve the highest honour for those who demonstrate great integrity, leadership, along side talent and work ethic while they are actually on our team. I'm not for rewarding someone for what they do on another team.

My standards are high. I hope the team's standards are as well.

[Fairview4Life]

The man made no one else better. A team leader has that effect on people. Look at the comments today from Khem Birch and FVV on the leadership greatness of Kyle Lowry. Bosh did not have that.

That's pretty uncharitable to Bosh. He was 25 in his last year here. Lowry, for example, was still in Houston when he was 25 and I don't think all that many people considered him a great leader at that point. Maybe CB turns into that guy 5 years later with Masai at the helm as well.

Maybe so, it was his choice to leave before he became that leader. So should we honour him for that choice, or do we reserve the highest honour for those who demonstrate great integrity, leadership, along side talent and work ethic while they are actually on our team. I'm not for rewarding someone for what they do on another team.

My standards are high. I hope the team's standards are as well.

I don't really care about honouring Bosh at all. Maybe if we hadn't won a title or something. Just it's hard to be mad at a 25 year old not being the same quality of leader as 30 year old Kyle Lowry under Masai.

[Dennis 37]

Bosh had his faults, but acting like him dipping to Miami to form the big 3 is some unforgivable sin is hilarious. That move was pretty much only positive for him and he ended up with 2 rings because of it. He is undoubtedly a top 5 Raptor of all time.

Lowry flirted with leaving twice in FA and he was involved in trade talks at least twice beyond that. The main difference is circumstances. A player has to do what is best for themselves ultimately.

[lobosloboslobos]

Like others have said, he barely acknowledges his time with the Raps. I know he's going in as a Miami Heat player, but I don't think even their fanbase really has a strong emotional attachment to him, I could be wrong though.

Side note: These dues like Melo, PG13, etc who burnt bridges with the only fanbases who truly appreciated and connected with them will probably be in awkward spots when it comes to team alliance once they retire, no fanbase will really give a damn about them. I know they're multi-millionaires, but I'd bet good money that they wish they had a fanbase that showers them with love.

that's probably more important than a lot of players realize when they are dicking teams around. sure you can be rich but 20, 30, 40 or even 50 years later beloved players can show up anywhere in the city they gave themselves to and be welcomed, appreciated and even loved. How fun must that be? just think of the wendel clarks and pinball clemens or even JYDs of the world. you don't even have to be a star you just have to earn it by loving the city and giving your all for it and they will love you back. happens all over.

but if you don't do that. if you sell a team out at the end and leave a bad taste in everyone's mouth like Bosh (and VC) did then you get nothing. nothing but a long life of having money but no love. must suck. and i am100% sure that the players who don't have that love when they show up at conventions or dinners or award ceremonies or fundraising events or whatever and see the love that certain players get from certain fans they must realize eventually what they are missing out on and wish they'd behaved differently.

[Lucky 24]

When I hear the name Chris Bosh, Hall Of Famer is not a description that comes to mind. I guess because the NBA has fewer players than other leagues, the criteria to qualify is more generous. For example, Joe Carter couldn't even get into the Baseball hall of Fame despite many all star appearances and post season successes.

I guess it's a lock that Kyle Lowry will become a HOFer if Bosh is the standard.

[LoveMyRaps]

He dipped on us

Tf should we care

Meanwhile you have Kawhi as your avatar

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[howlin mad axer]

So take away the two titles with the Heat and all of his stats and accolades stay the same, does Bosh get named a hall of famer this early or at all? If no, it makes me wonder if he deserves to be a hall of famer.

[Lucky 24]

The man said Canada smelled weird.

Perhaps he was smelling the waft from the sewage treatment plant?

[VancouverRaps]

The man said Canada smelled weird.

To be fair to him, his hometown of Dallas has bad air quality, the fresh air in Toronto probably freaked him out.

[MavCarter]

Without cb4 after vince left i probably wouldn't have cared much for the raptors. Congrats cb4

[Dennis 37]

That's pretty uncharitable to Bosh. He was 25 in his last year here. Lowry, for example, was still in Houston when he was 25 and I don't think all that many people considered him a great leader at that point. Maybe CB turns into that guy 5 years later with Masai at the helm as well.

Maybe so, it was his choice to leave before he became that leader. So should we honour him for that choice, or do we reserve the highest honour for those who demonstrate great integrity, leadership, along side talent and work ethic while they are actually on our team. I'm not for rewarding someone for what they do on another team.

My standards are high. I hope the team's standards are as well.

I don't really care about honouring Bosh at all. Maybe if we hadn't won a title or something. Just it's hard to be mad at a 25 year old not being the same quality of leader as 30 year old Kyle Lowry under Masai.

I have no anger with him at all. What I'm doing is a pre-emptive strike against those who will soon pop out if the woodwork suggesting his jersey go to the rafters. You know that's coming if he makes the hall of fame.

With the push for the jersey belonging to he, who shall not be named, finally dying down, I would rather not see threads for the next year promoting Bosh's jersey retirement.

[Childs]

I think judging by the remarks in this thread, it's even more surprising he made hall of fame. It's not just Raptor fans, but he didn't resonate highly in the US either.

I mean hes an 11 time All Star, how many 11 time All Stars are not in the HOF?