WindyCityBorn wrote:PaKii94 wrote:CobyWhite0 wrote:I mean this as a compliment, but way to state the blatantly obvious.
Zach and Vuc played 13 games together.
Zach had 261 FGA in those 13 games.
Vuc had 254 FGA in those 13 games.
Zach so far on the bulls has been okay deferring to 2 total players so far:
1 - vuc, he came in with the "all-star" pedigree
2 - opj, after the trade deadline trade
He has never really deferred field goals/touches to Lauri... Except during the FebruLauri time where Lauri averaged 80 touches a game.
So you are doubling down on him freezing Lauri out? Lauri was the second option for 3.5 years and couldn’t get it done. Period. He cannot create a shot so he had to be spoon fed everything. Zach is no great facilitator by any means that really isn’t his job although right at 5 asts per game is very respectable for SG.
Not really I didn't really put much on Zach when it comes to Lauri. It's more Zach's impact on the game in general that I had issues with. Up until this year Zach was at most a neutral player but at high volume. He did improve greatly at decision making this year so I hope he continues to improve in that regards when he matures.
The only thing I am trying to dispute is the claim that Lauri was the defacto #2 for 2.5 years and couldn't get it done. When he got the touches of a focal point a la #2, he produced. But he pretty much never got those opportunities past FebruLauri. There are a lot of things you can put this towards. And Lauri definitely gets part of that blame.
1) no real playmaker guard for Lauri's career so far. We acknowledge Lavine ain't it in that regards but he was the lead playmaker for the last two years. Then you add Coby who is that much worse (besides that last stretch of games)
2) we know about Lauri's short comings at rim protecting at the 5. Rolo complemented him well by deferring to Lauri and doing the other garbage work. WCJ wasn't doing that. And then add into the fact that wcj failed as a high post playmaker (adding to #1 above)
3) the rarity of the Lavine/Lauri pnr. When they tried it it was usually lethal. But they rarely tried it. Unfortunately I think that's because like others have said. Usually we have a lane clogging big next to him. In the team sense Lauri's shooting becomes that much more valuable vs his rim play.
That's why I was hopeful with the Vuc pickup. With Lauri/vuc spacing the floor the lane should in theory be wide open and we could finally see some more Lavine/Lauri PnR. Alas.
4) where Lauri is at fault is he hasn't shown the "alpha" in him. He has the talent to be a #2 AND there was a void at #2 for the team. He could have forced the issue. Instead he wanted to be a team player a la a floor spacing roleplayer.
The closest he's come to show some fire these past two years is his last few interviews where he actually puts out he wants to be a focal point and believes he's a starter. Maybe getting a contract will light a fire in him to perform up to that contract. Or maybe that alpha never develops and Lauri continues to be a role player. That's on him.
Which unfortunately brings us to the side note of I get Lauri vibes from PWill. He has the talent to be a really really good player but he seems content on being a team player role player right now. Even rookie Lauri showed more fire.