Moderators: Rich Rane, NyCeEvO
andrewww wrote:Looks like game 4 will be a packed house in Beantown as capacity limits to be removed on May 29 for Massachusetts.
therealbig3 wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:therealbig3 wrote:The overconfidence makes me cringe.
Yeah, we've been the better team this year. But nothing is guaranteed in the NBA. LOL for a fanbase that saw our team win a paper championship in 2014 only to fall hilariously short, you'd think we'd know not to count our chickens before they hatch.
Seriously?
Stop being an apprehensive Nets fan.
We are the 2 seed in the East and have 3 All NBA level players. We should be confident against a bad team with their 2nd best player injured.
We were not good all season in 2014 so pretty stupid comparison
Were a contender. Time to start acting like at.
The Celtics are not a bad team. They still have Tatum, Kemba, Smart, and some solid role players, and a great coach in Stevens. And they notoriously punch above their weight class pretty much every year. Acting like they're some pushover team that we're going to auto demolish just reeks of overcompensation.
And why act so confident when our big 3 could fall apart at any minute? What happens if KD and Harden have hamstring issues pop up again, or if Kyrie hurts his surgically repaired shoulder, or tweaks his finger again and doesn't shoot right the rest of the way? Literally all 3 of them have had legit injury concerns within the last year, and people want to act like we're some infallible team. Get real.
And it still comes down to role players producing. Harris is injured and doesn't exactly have a track record of stepping up in PS games. Neither does Jeff Green. We're relying on role players with no legit PS experience to be major contributors in this playoff run (Mike James, Tyler Johnson, Nicolas Claxton, Landry Shamet). Blake Griffin is like the one role player who's actually got legit playoff experience and who I can trust to execute in a PS situation.
Plenty of question marks surround this team, much of it relating to health, but also to chemistry and PS experience outside of the big 3. Not to mention our rookie head coach who has yet to actually deal with game planning and making adjustments over the course of a playoff series.
The 2018 Warriors almost lost to the Rockets if not for a CP3 injury and an all-time poor shooting performance in game 7. And the 2019 Warriors actually did lose because of injuries to KD and Klay. The 08 Celtics went 7 games against a bad Hawks team in round 1 and a bad Cavs team in round 2. The champion Spurs in 2014 got pushed to 7 games in round 1 by the 8th seed Mavericks. Better teams get pushed by inferior ones all the time, even in the playoffs.
Stop intentionally being argumentative.
MagicBagley18 wrote:Here’s to hoping we have a series with no injuries. Fully expect you guys to beat us pretty easily. We just don’t have anywhere near the firepower and I think you guys legit can win the whole thing. When your firing on all cylinders I don’t think any team can beat you 4 of 7.
Should be a fun series. If it comes down to it I easily root for you guys over the lakers any day even with the back and forth amongst the fan bases. Cheers to playoff basketball- good luck the rest of the way
Stone wrote:Kevin Durant > Evan Fournier
Bruce Brown < Jason Tatum
Blake Griffin > Robert Williams
James Harden > Marcus Smart
Kyrie Irving > Kemba Walker
Nets Bench > Celtic bench
Coach Nash = Coach Stevens
MGrand15 wrote:Boston's a solid team. If Kemba and Fournier are shooting well, they can be good. Pritchard is a good scorer. We're going to need to play well to win but I don't think they matchup well with us at all. They don't have the size to punish us for switching.
Now that it's playoff time, we'll have Kyrie or Harden on the floor at all times. I don't think they have anyone that can check our stars. They take a lot of jump shots - which we do a solid job of contesting.
If they get hot and we hit a slump, anything could happen of course. I just don't see what Stevens can do against Nash here. I'm sure we'll see a lot of zone + Tatum or Kemba hunting Griffin or Joe Harris. I don't see how it could lead to sustained success.
Prokorov wrote:MGrand15 wrote:Boston's a solid team. If Kemba and Fournier are shooting well, they can be good. Pritchard is a good scorer. We're going to need to play well to win but I don't think they matchup well with us at all. They don't have the size to punish us for switching.
Now that it's playoff time, we'll have Kyrie or Harden on the floor at all times. I don't think they have anyone that can check our stars. They take a lot of jump shots - which we do a solid job of contesting.
If they get hot and we hit a slump, anything could happen of course. I just don't see what Stevens can do against Nash here. I'm sure we'll see a lot of zone + Tatum or Kemba hunting Griffin or Joe Harris. I don't see how it could lead to sustained success.
Its not just about what Stevens will do, its what Nash wont.
Adjust.
He will allow them to play small. he will allow them to stay in a zone. he will allow them to go on long runs. He will allow them to trap.
MGrand15 wrote:Prokorov wrote:MGrand15 wrote:Boston's a solid team. If Kemba and Fournier are shooting well, they can be good. Pritchard is a good scorer. We're going to need to play well to win but I don't think they matchup well with us at all. They don't have the size to punish us for switching.
Now that it's playoff time, we'll have Kyrie or Harden on the floor at all times. I don't think they have anyone that can check our stars. They take a lot of jump shots - which we do a solid job of contesting.
If they get hot and we hit a slump, anything could happen of course. I just don't see what Stevens can do against Nash here. I'm sure we'll see a lot of zone + Tatum or Kemba hunting Griffin or Joe Harris. I don't see how it could lead to sustained success.
Its not just about what Stevens will do, its what Nash wont.
Adjust.
He will allow them to play small. he will allow them to stay in a zone. he will allow them to go on long runs. He will allow them to trap.
I know you hate Nash so it doesn't matter but
Going small against us is death. We will drop 140 on them if they try. They don't really have the personnel to go small anyway. Is the threat Jabari Parker, Tatum, or Grant Williams at 5?
Zone + traps = wide open 3s or dunks. Not being able to handle a zone isn't a coaching thing - it's a personnel thing and BBIQ thing. Celtics used to always struggle against zone even with the mastermind Stevens because Tatum/Brown/Smart are always looking shot first.
Prokorov wrote:Overall our talent will get it done, but this wont be a sweep
CalamityX12 wrote:
Man the NBA really stretching things out.... gm 1 Saturday but gm 3 not til the following Friday? Wow.....
Prokorov wrote:MagicBagley18 wrote:Here’s to hoping we have a series with no injuries. Fully expect you guys to beat us pretty easily. We just don’t have anywhere near the firepower and I think you guys legit can win the whole thing. When your firing on all cylinders I don’t think any team can beat you 4 of 7.
Should be a fun series. If it comes down to it I easily root for you guys over the lakers any day even with the back and forth amongst the fan bases. Cheers to playoff basketball- good luck the rest of the way
I think this series goes six.... but not in the grueling, long, this is a close series six.... more of a 3 nets blowout wins mixed in with boston outcoaching us to keep 3 close and still a few late.
Nash is going to let Boston off the hook. he will play small, to allow boston to not have to play a center. He will run lineups with no stars to allow boston to rest tatum and get away with it. he wont adjust to double teams or zones or boston runs.
Overall our talent will get it done, but this wont be a sweep
CalamityX12 wrote:Man the NBA really stretching things out.... gm 1 Saturday but gm 3 not til the following Friday? Wow.....
MagicBagley18 wrote:Prokorov wrote:MagicBagley18 wrote:Here’s to hoping we have a series with no injuries. Fully expect you guys to beat us pretty easily. We just don’t have anywhere near the firepower and I think you guys legit can win the whole thing. When your firing on all cylinders I don’t think any team can beat you 4 of 7.
Should be a fun series. If it comes down to it I easily root for you guys over the lakers any day even with the back and forth amongst the fan bases. Cheers to playoff basketball- good luck the rest of the way
I think this series goes six.... but not in the grueling, long, this is a close series six.... more of a 3 nets blowout wins mixed in with boston outcoaching us to keep 3 close and still a few late.
Nash is going to let Boston off the hook. he will play small, to allow boston to not have to play a center. He will run lineups with no stars to allow boston to rest tatum and get away with it. he wont adjust to double teams or zones or boston runs.
Overall our talent will get it done, but this wont be a sweep
Yea, I think a 3-0 nets lead then Celtics win a meaningless game to at least let it go 5. We just don’t have a good team this season. Blame is deserving for all 3 factions of the Celtics ; Danny, brad and the players. without brown it’s even harder to see us doing anything here. I agree with you on the coaching discrepancy leaning heavily in our favor but your overall talent compared to ours just overwhelms it.
I’m not as doom and gloom as some on our overall picture moving forward but this year with the personal we have it’s just not their for us. Hoping Tatum at least has a good series. I’ve been bullish on the nets once you guys added harden and wanted the Celtics to trade for him. He’s just a really really great player whose been criticized by a lot of people whom probably haven’t watched him play but relied on narratives and him being added to your team essentially made you likely to have 2 of 3 superstars available at all times & when all 3? it could be unfair.
Prokorov wrote:MGrand15 wrote:Prokorov wrote:
Its not just about what Stevens will do, its what Nash wont.
Adjust.
He will allow them to play small. he will allow them to stay in a zone. he will allow them to go on long runs. He will allow them to trap.
I know you hate Nash so it doesn't matter but
Going small against us is death. We will drop 140 on them if they try. They don't really have the personnel to go small anyway. Is the threat Jabari Parker, Tatum, or Grant Williams at 5?
Zone + traps = wide open 3s or dunks. Not being able to handle a zone isn't a coaching thing - it's a personnel thing and BBIQ thing. Celtics used to always struggle against zone even with the mastermind Stevens because Tatum/Brown/Smart are always looking shot first.
To premise, let me start with this. saying "if they do that we will roast them" is kind of moot. You can say that for anything they do. We have 3 hall of fame scoring legends. But you can still do things to maximize us and minimize them.
1) One of their biggest flaws is lack of bigs. Theis is gone. Timelord is potentially out with injury or not 100%. Tristan Thompson has been awful. Luke Kornet is a scryb. Allowing them to play small gives them a better chance, as it removes a big liability for them. They have a better shot trying to guard Blake or Green with a Forward then they do guarding Claxton/Jordan. Blake can still score inside, but they can get away with a small. Make them play a big, and it will drastically hurt them on both ends.
2) We have struggled vs zone at times and have had small to big issues with trapping. Alot of beating those is coaching and adjustments. letting your guys chuck might work since we have 3 studs, but we have seen it go the other way several times, including some losses.
Whiskey Slick wrote:CalamityX12 wrote:
Man the NBA really stretching things out.... gm 1 Saturday but gm 3 not til the following Friday? Wow.....
I like it. The Celtics have a young team so they don't need as much rest between games. Our team, OTOH, is NOT OLD, but a bit older and two of the BIG 3 (KD and Harden) are coming off lengthy injuries, so I like that we get so much time off before this series starts, then two days off between games 1 and two, and two and three ... then a day off after the rest of the games. IMO this serves as an advantage for the Nets.
I especially love that we have no back-to-backs.
MrDollarBills wrote:MagicBagley18 wrote:Prokorov wrote:
I think this series goes six.... but not in the grueling, long, this is a close series six.... more of a 3 nets blowout wins mixed in with boston outcoaching us to keep 3 close and still a few late.
Nash is going to let Boston off the hook. he will play small, to allow boston to not have to play a center. He will run lineups with no stars to allow boston to rest tatum and get away with it. he wont adjust to double teams or zones or boston runs.
Overall our talent will get it done, but this wont be a sweep
Yea, I think a 3-0 nets lead then Celtics win a meaningless game to at least let it go 5. We just don’t have a good team this season. Blame is deserving for all 3 factions of the Celtics ; Danny, brad and the players. without brown it’s even harder to see us doing anything here. I agree with you on the coaching discrepancy leaning heavily in our favor but your overall talent compared to ours just overwhelms it.
I’m not as doom and gloom as some on our overall picture moving forward but this year with the personal we have it’s just not their for us. Hoping Tatum at least has a good series. I’ve been bullish on the nets once you guys added harden and wanted the Celtics to trade for him. He’s just a really really great player whose been criticized by a lot of people whom probably haven’t watched him play but relied on narratives and him being added to your team essentially made you likely to have 2 of 3 superstars available at all times & when all 3? it could be unfair.
Honestly, I have no idea why Ainge let the roster get to the point where you guys basically punted a year of Tatum and Brown's youth. Long term outlook wise, Boston is in great shape as long as Tatum and Brown sign in for the long haul, having an all star wing tandem is pretty much NBA gold. But I think you may want some new blood in the front office at some point over the next few years.
Is Pritchard in your playoff rotation? Now that kid I wouldn't mind having in a Nets uniform.
