Miami Heat Regular Season/Speculation Thread 2021 Part 3

[eddieheatfan]

Copypasta from my post in the GB thread:

If it was indeed the same quad tendon, I'd just like to know what the hell kind of rehab did he do after the 2019 injury and who was overseeing it. Seems like it never fully healed properly and he's been playing compromised this entire time, he literally went down after his first full-exertion explosive movement in a Heat uniform

Damaged goods, like many of us suspected, and if Miami did not know the truth, the league should force Houston to send pick compensation.

Everything I said about Victor Oladipo was true, he is damaged goods. I received a lot of heat and even personal attacks for this. I even said that anyone who is betting the future of the Miami Heat on Victor's health must be crazy. I understand that we acquired Oladipo at a very low price and closing that deal was the right thing to do. Victor is a good human being and I only wish him the best. Victor Oladipo could miss all of next season and if there is any hope for his future health, we could offer a 1-year contract for the minimum so that we can retain his Bird-Rights.

tell me what good does it do to have bird rights to an injured player? in my view the heat should leave this hot potato and look for talent elsewhere. like you said he's damaged goods, i bet that greg oden was a great guy too and the heat ditched him because obvious reasons....as is, the heat are thinking in bringing back haslem which contributes too little to nothing.

time to move on

[BFRESH44]

There’s definitely value in still having Oladipo’s bird rights. It’s just gives you options. While it’s discouraging he needed additional surgery, It’s not impossible he comes back from this. Too much baseless speculation going on right now with the time table too.

[gom]

There’s definitely value in still having Oladipo’s bird rights. It’s just gives you options. While it’s discouraging he needed additional surgery, It’s not impossible he comes back from this. Too much baseless speculation going on right now with the time table too.

It really sounds like his case wasn't done properly before. I'm glad he's getting help. Quadriceps injuries are complicated. I thought this was an interesting read: (it compares Tony Parker's and Kawhi Leonard's quad injuries)

https://www.fitclubny.com/blog/quadricep-tendonipathy-injury-and-nba

Oladipo should come back very well.

[twix2500]

This is why I wasn't taking it lightly how Oladipo reacted to his leg. Especially that he was finally on the team he really wanted to play for and impress. We are looking at 2023 for Oladipo to be a possible significant player again. Unless some crazy trade happens as right now Lowry is the target and resigning Nunn and Robinson are the goals. Then the first summer league for both KZ Precious and Strus.

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[RexBoyWonder]

This is why I wasn't taking it lightly how Oladipo reacted to his leg. Especially that he was finally on the team he really wanted to play for and impress. We are looking at 2023 for Oladipo to be a possible significant player again. Unless some crazy trade happens as right now Lowry is the target and resigning Nunn and Robinson are the goals. Then the first summer league for both KZ Precious and Strus.

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That would've been fine if Lowry was an elite scorer or a top 15 player. Sadly, at age 35, he's not.

I don't believe adding Lowry to this group is enough to make us a contender unless Herro and Bam make another big leap, KZ and Precious also make a huge leap, and everyone else is kept and keeping improving (Nunn, Robinson) or at least don't decline (dragic, Ariza).

[eddieheatfan]

This is why I wasn't taking it lightly how Oladipo reacted to his leg. Especially that he was finally on the team he really wanted to play for and impress. We are looking at 2023 for Oladipo to be a possible significant player again. Unless some crazy trade happens as right now Lowry is the target and resigning Nunn and Robinson are the goals. Then the first summer league for both KZ Precious and Strus.

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That would've been fine if Lowry was an elite scorer or a top 15 player. Sadly, at age 35, he's not.

I don't believe adding Lowry to this group is enough to make us a contender unless Herro and Bam make another big leap, KZ and Precious also make a huge leap, and everyone else is kept and keeping improving (Nunn, Robinson) or at least don't decline (dragic, Ariza).

[twix2500]

This is why I wasn't taking it lightly how Oladipo reacted to his leg. Especially that he was finally on the team he really wanted to play for and impress. We are looking at 2023 for Oladipo to be a possible significant player again. Unless some crazy trade happens as right now Lowry is the target and resigning Nunn and Robinson are the goals. Then the first summer league for both KZ Precious and Strus.

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That would've been fine if Lowry was an elite scorer or a top 15 player. Sadly, at age 35, he's not.

I don't believe adding Lowry to this group is enough to make us a contender unless Herro and Bam make another big leap, KZ and Precious also make a huge leap, and everyone else is kept and keeping improving (Nunn, Robinson) or at least don't decline (dragic, Ariza).

The value of Lowry is not only he can score but he understands how to distribute the ball and make others better. The Heat have scorers, the need for a true point guard to maximize everyone else scoring potential. Heat work way to hard to score. So yeah the idea is to make Duncan, Herro, Bam and Jimmy scoring better by getting Lowry. Plus he is a good defender.

IMO Lowry will make Herro a potential starter over Robinson

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I do wonder if Butler gets extended this summer or he moves on in a little over a year. Doing nearly ZERO to the roster since he forced his way there could be an issue.

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[eddieheatfan]

I do wonder if Butler gets extended this summer or he moves on in a little over a year. Doing nearly ZERO to the roster since he forced his way there could be an issue.

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post season drama oh man oh man

[oreon]

There you go

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Funny how this National Media story coming up with slander on the Heat. Wasn't it a few weeks ago that Heat were concerned with Herro's lifestyle article that came out. It's not being in and out because of injuries would have hurt his game. And Rachel Nicolis had a segmented on Winslow asking to start, trying to paint a picture that he demanded to start when anyone who follows Heat knew it wasn't a big deal.

It's clear this didn't come from Butler's camp or the Heat. I'd be curious where Shams got it from. I'm sure they have been disagreements between Butler and the Heat. There always is between star players and the FO and also between players. It doesn't mean its a big deal. If Butler was unhappy we'd know about it.

I'm all for a free media but reporters shouldn't be putting stuff out there and citing anonymous sources. You can literally say anything and hide behind sources. How about before he puts it out there, he gets a quote from the Heat and Butler instead of acting like what he has is facts.

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Funny how this National Media story coming up with slander on the Heat. Wasn't it a few weeks ago that Heat were concerned with Herro's lifestyle article that came out. It's not being in and out because of injuries would have hurt his game. And Rachel Nicolis had a segmented on Winslow asking to start, trying to paint a picture that he demanded to start when anyone who follows Heat knew it wasn't a big deal.

It's clear this didn't come from Butler's camp or the Heat. I'd be curious where Shams got it from. I'm sure they have been disagreements between Butler and the Heat. There always is between star players and the FO and also between players. It doesn't mean its a big deal. If Butler was unhappy we'd know about it.

I'm all for a free media but reporters shouldn't be putting stuff out there and citing anonymous sources. You can literally say anything and hide behind sources. How about before he puts it out there, he gets a quote from the Heat and Butler instead of acting like what he has is facts.

Ambulance chasers are lowlifes ... but they don't cause the accidents. We all know about Jimmy. He's got a well publicized history. As for who leaked it, I assume it's whoever caught his wrath. But while some teammates may not be happy about it, I'm pretty sure that Pat loves it ... and maybe Spo too.

[twix2500]

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Looks like Oladipo and Heat will attempt a plan for Oladipo to return.

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[Kobewade11]

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Looks like Oladipo and Heat will attempt a plan for Oladipo to return.

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There’s no reason not to entertain it. Oladipo isnt going to have a large market and he wants to be here, signing him to a team friendly deal wont prohibit further moves.

[twix2500]

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Looks like Oladipo and Heat will attempt a plan for Oladipo to return.

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There’s no reason not to entertain it. Oladipo isnt going to have a large market and he wants to be here, signing him to a team friendly deal wont prohibit further moves.

Oh for certainly don't expect a large deal. I'm not sure how they will plan this. I'm hoping it's a deal made no sooner than preseason preferably later when he is cleared by his doctors and the Heat. Give him a one year deal to continue his rehab as an active player. Similar to what they did with Stat and Dedmon.

I would have no expectations for him to a major contributor next season. It would be 2022 training camp i would expect him to be reliable.

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[TroubleS0me]

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[The Bunk]

I think our only chance at building a legit title contender any time soon is things ending very badly for LAC this postseason. A distasteful first round exit, preferably in 5 or 6 games.

So yeah, Go Mavs.

[BenoUdrihFTL]

Had we not lost that home game to a Hawks team missing Trae and Capela we'd have a relatively easy path to the ECF. Knicks are a great matchup for us (we 3-0'd them) and Sixers are a severely flawed team

Pretty depressing lol

[TroubleS0me]

I think our only chance at building a legit title contender any time soon is things ending very badly for LAC this postseason. A distasteful first round exit, preferably in 5 or 6 games.

So yeah, Go Mavs.

to get Kawhi?

[DJ_3_Ball]

This seems as good a place as any to post this. I didn't see a Heat offseason thread on the first 2 pages.

What's the chances the Heat don't match an offer sheet for Duncan Robinson? I assume they would, but if a team comes in with a 5 for 100 type of offer, I think the Heat would have to think about it first right? What do ya'll think?

They could decline Dragic and Iggy. That frees up room. They could let Oladipo & Ariza walk. They'd have plenty of cap space, but they'd have a lot of holes to fill + they gotta deal with Nunn as a RFA.

Feels like the Heat would go after a big name first before committing that much to Robinson; although there's not many big names in this FA class. Lowry? DeRozan? Maybe even a guy like Dinwiddie, and they need a quality big.

If I'm the Heat, I prioritize Robinson, but I'm not sure they see it that way. They may have a max offer in mind for him. Maybe they're not willing to do more than 4 for 60 or something in that ballpark. What's the sense of it among Heat fans?

[marson]

This seems as good a place as any to post this. I didn't see a Heat offseason thread on the first 2 pages.

What's the chances the Heat don't match an offer sheet for Duncan Robinson? I assume they would, but if a team comes in with a 5 for 100 type of offer, I think the Heat would have to think about it first right? What do ya'll think?

They could decline Dragic and Iggy. That frees up room. They could let Oladipo & Ariza walk. They'd have plenty of cap space, but they'd have a lot of holes to fill + they gotta deal with Nunn as a RFA.

Feels like the Heat would go after a big name first before committing that much to Robinson; although there's not many big names in this FA class. Lowry? DeRozan? Maybe even a guy like Dinwiddie, and they need a quality big.

If I'm the Heat, I prioritize Robinson, but I'm not sure they see it that way. They may have a max offer in mind for him. Maybe they're not willing to do more than 4 for 60 or something in that ballpark. What's the sense of it among Heat fans?

Duncan would probably get Joe Harris type of money so I certainly sure Heat can match. And a rebuilding team would totally waste money for a 5/100 since Dunc is more of a system guy and he would not carry a team as a 2nd option or whatsoever. Heat will surely be over the cap if they can sign Kawhi or Lowry while matching any qualifying offer for Duncan anyway.