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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:...powerful words are a dime a dozen. Not powerful words...Power forwards
payitforward wrote:Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:nate33 wrote:...I'd take Hachimura over Portis. I'd definitely take Hachimura with 2 more years of experience over Portis....
I think I would also take Hachimura over porters...Aargh **** in auto correct
Well, certainly -- with the benefit of hindsight, i.e. knowing what Bobby Portis' development path has been, & given that Rui has some years of possible development in him before we learn where he is going to peak. I.e. I wouldn't be interested in trading Rui for Portis (more out of lack of interest in Portis than anything else).
But, if they were both in the same draft, say? I.e. Bobby Portis coming out 4 months after his 20th birthday, given the two years he'd had at Arkansas vs. Rui coming out 4 months after his 21st birthday, given the three years he'd had at Gonzaga?
Leave out the fact that Rui is Japanese, & I don't think it's likely that anyone would take him over Portis.
To put it another way, based on Rui's play in college I rated him to go near the end of R1.
payitforward wrote:Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:...powerful words are a dime a dozen. Not powerful words...Power forwards
Sometimes that device of yours is pretty funny!
"Powerful words are a dime a dozen" -- that's way to good to throw away! I wrote it down to use some day!
nate33 wrote:Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:As I watch this playoff game Milwaukee versus Miami with the sound off I noticed one player on the Bucks, Bobby Portis.
Very good rebounder. Has three point range. Can dribble from the outside in and finish with a floater. Can back his opponent down and go over his right shoulder and back the shot in.
I do recall saying the wizards should not have traded the draft pick just to acquire Kelly Oubre. I did say they should have drafted by the Porsche
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Bobby Portis or Anthony girl or AnthonySkill Anthony gill oh Rui Hachimura? If they all made the same salary which one would you pick?
Portis still can't defend a chair. Playing alongside Giannis helps a lot. It allows him to defend slower centers but without having to protect the rim.
I'd take Hachimura over Portis. I'd definitely take Hachimura with 2 more years of experience over Portis.
The real debate a while ago was Portis versus Oubre. They have similar impact IMO. Both guys are pretty good coming off the bench, but leave much to be desired as a starter. I think Oubre's season a year ago in Phoenix was probably better than any of Portis'. I also think Oubre gets an edge with positional rareness. PF/C's are a dime-a-dozen. Respectable wings who can guard 2 through 4 are precious.
Kanyewest wrote:nate33 wrote:Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:As I watch this playoff game Milwaukee versus Miami with the sound off I noticed one player on the Bucks, Bobby Portis.
Very good rebounder. Has three point range. Can dribble from the outside in and finish with a floater. Can back his opponent down and go over his right shoulder and back the shot in.
I do recall saying the wizards should not have traded the draft pick just to acquire Kelly Oubre. I did say they should have drafted by the Porsche
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Bobby Portis or Anthony girl or AnthonySkill Anthony gill oh Rui Hachimura? If they all made the same salary which one would you pick?
Portis still can't defend a chair. Playing alongside Giannis helps a lot. It allows him to defend slower centers but without having to protect the rim.
I'd take Hachimura over Portis. I'd definitely take Hachimura with 2 more years of experience over Portis.
The real debate a while ago was Portis versus Oubre. They have similar impact IMO. Both guys are pretty good coming off the bench, but leave much to be desired as a starter. I think Oubre's season a year ago in Phoenix was probably better than any of Portis'. I also think Oubre gets an edge with positional rareness. PF/C's are a dime-a-dozen. Respectable wings who can guard 2 through 4 are precious.
It might have been just this game but Portis's defense wasn't a glaring weakness. He was switched on to Butler on a few occasions and Butler continued to struggle.
Ruzious wrote:Kanyewest wrote:nate33 wrote:Portis still can't defend a chair. Playing alongside Giannis helps a lot. It allows him to defend slower centers but without having to protect the rim.
I'd take Hachimura over Portis. I'd definitely take Hachimura with 2 more years of experience over Portis.
The real debate a while ago was Portis versus Oubre. They have similar impact IMO. Both guys are pretty good coming off the bench, but leave much to be desired as a starter. I think Oubre's season a year ago in Phoenix was probably better than any of Portis'. I also think Oubre gets an edge with positional rareness. PF/C's are a dime-a-dozen. Respectable wings who can guard 2 through 4 are precious.
It might have been just this game but Portis's defense wasn't a glaring weakness. He was switched on to Butler on a few occasions and Butler continued to struggle.
Portis has been a tremendous complement to Giannis - much better than I thought he'd be. And he's also the Bucks' enforcer - when needed. When the Heat were getting overly physical with Giannis, he stepped in and pushed away their backup thug center. He got a technical foul for it, but Reggie Miller was rightly praising him up and down for it. Giannis helps Portis by drawing doubles inside and finding Portis open on the outside. Really, they help each other.
Btw, Giannis has almost completely shut down Butler in the 1st 2 games.