The Time Lord: Welcome Robert Williams!

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Finally.

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Scal is shameless here, telling poor Rob that "Time Lord" has nothing to do with having been late:

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/video/brian-scalabrine-has-another-theory-robert-williams-being-time-lord

[truth18]

An Aggie?

LETS **** GO.

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A healthy Rob Williams is the team leader these C's need:

https://nesn.com/2021/05/robert-williams-could-not-care-less-about-his-strong-game-1-showing/

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23 minutes of RW3 we were +5.

25 minutes of Tristan we were -16.

Tristan works hard and made a few good individual plays yesterday, but he kills our offense by clogging the paint and he can’t pass or dribble.

On D he isn’t quick enough to defend on the perimeter or long enough to recover when he gets beat and block shots from behind.

Unfortunately he just takes a lot more off the table than he brings. RW3 on the other hand was amazing last night. Just wish he could stay healthy and we could get more minutes out of him.

[bisme37]

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23 minutes of RW3 we were +5.

25 minutes of Tristan we were -16.

Tristan works hard and made a few good individual plays yesterday, but he kills our offense by clogging the paint and he can’t pass or dribble.

On D he isn’t quick enough to defend on the perimeter or long enough to recover when he gets beat and block shots from behind.

Unfortunately he just takes a lot more off the table than he brings. RW3 on the other hand was amazing last night. Just wish he could stay healthy and we could get more minutes out of him.

Agreed on all points. In a perfect world, Rob would never get hurt and would always play 30-33 mins a game and Thompson only plays 15-18.

[Ernest]

Game 1 probably earned Rob an extra million or 2 on his next contract. He is so impressive to watch.

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Nobody is as good as his best game(s) or as bad as his worst. But, health permitting, Rob seems to be on his way to stardom.

[BostonCouchGM]

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people get way too carried away after games like this. I see a bunch of blocks against scrubs like Brown twice, Harris and Green who all exhibited near zero awareness as they went up for their shots. Not to mention because they doubled Tatum it led to a couple wide open bunnies. Also, they have no center. They're using Blake Griffin and Green to guard him. We lost the game don't forget. He can't guard the perimeter and is often lost on rotations giving up easy baskets. Any true center makes him look foolish. Also he's not dependable due to his injuries. I'm happy he's here and he is exciting but talking about paying him much more than he's already making when he gets offers as a RFA will result in us just continuing to spin our wheels and makes no sense. It reminds me of everyone wanting to pay Dak Prescott. Dallas was awful with him making $6 million, how does paying him $41 million help matters? People act as if Williams is a difference maker who is making us better or something. He's just at best our 8th best player. I think someone laughably said he was a top 10 center. What? He put up 8-7 with less than 2 blocks a game lol

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people get way too carried away after games like this. I see a bunch of blocks against scrubs like Brown twice, Harris and Green who all exhibited near zero awareness as they went up for their shots. Not to mention because they doubled Tatum it led to a couple wide open bunnies. Also, they have no center. They're using Blake Griffin and Green to guard him. We lost the game don't forget. He can't guard the perimeter and is often lost on rotations giving up easy baskets. Any true center makes him look foolish. Also he's not dependable due to his injuries. I'm happy he's here and he is exciting but talking about paying him much more than he's already making when he gets offers as a RFA will result in us just continuing to spin our wheels and makes no sense. It reminds me of everyone wanting to pay Dak Prescott. Dallas was awful with him making $6 million, how does paying him $41 million help matters? People act as if Williams is a difference maker who is making us better or something. He's just at best our 8th best player. I think someone laughably said he was a top 10 center. What? He put up 8-7 with less than 2 blocks a game lol

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Other players to block a Harden stepback 3: Ben Simmons, Jimmy Butler, Josh Okogie, and ... wait for it ... Luka Doncic!?!?!?!

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[playa-hater]

I wasn't a member of this forum way back then, so I can't prove what I said. But was calling for his playing time early and often. F his "missed assignments on defense" excuse.

I feel vindicated about RW. Meanwhile a healthy Rob makes a top 5 center impact on winning IMO. He is superman, but his health is his kryptonite.

[Bleeding Green]

I should go around to all my old takes that I didn't post publicly and pump my tires up a bit.

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https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/celtics-nets-robert-williams-showcases-defensive-player-of-the-year-potential-in-bostons-game-1-loss/

In which Rob is touted as a potential DPOY in general, and compared favorably to Rudy Gobert in particular, but castigated for his lack of blocking out, with no reference to his strong rebounding numbers.

[ddb]

Timelord has been a bright spot in an otherwise gloomy season. With that said, I still put him in the category of TRADE CHIP. Giving him a big payday is risky business. Right now he presents major value around the league as he's still on rookie scale deal (extension eligible this summer), and has sorta broken through as an intriguing defensive guru. I'd imagine that if Danny wants to get anything major done this offseason to improve this roster, he's going to need to dangle Timelord. Beyond Williams, there really isn't much else on the roster that will be sought after in trades. Maybe Nesmith as he's shown enough flashes to intrigue.
The goal for Danny should be to add a bonafide third star to join Tatum & Brown. Ainge should be focused on moving off of Kemba's deal and pairing that with Timelord and/or Nesmith, and picks.
That's really the only path.
A lot of people will say Smart is the piece you move. I just don't see it. Smart is one of those guys that is more valuable to the Celtics then he is to other franchises. Not to mention he's a UFA after next season. Smart at 20+ million is not nearly as valuable as a piece then Smart at 13mill.

the question becomes...who can be had in a trade? Washington isn't going to rush off of Beal unless Beal strongly hints at wanting out. KAT/Edwards & the Wolves have shown enough promise to run it back and see what type of leap they can make next season. Dame is another interesting name to me. If Portland loses early in the playoffs does that franchise look at possibly resetting? Likely not, but you never know.

Any other big names you guys think could possibly become available in trade talks this summer?

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Timelord has been a bright spot in an otherwise gloomy season. With that said, I still put him in the category of TRADE CHIP. Giving him a big payday is risky business. Right now he presents major value around the league as he's still on rookie scale deal (extension eligible this summer), and has sorta broken through as an intriguing defensive guru. I'd imagine that if Danny wants to get anything major done this offseason to improve this roster, he's going to need to dangle Timelord. Beyond Williams, there really isn't much else on the roster that will be sought after in trades. Maybe Nesmith as he's shown enough flashes to intrigue.
The goal for Danny should be to add a bonafide third star to join Tatum & Brown. Ainge should be focused on moving off of Kemba's deal and pairing that with Timelord and/or Nesmith, and picks.
That's really the only path.
A lot of people will say Smart is the piece you move. I just don't see it. Smart is one of those guys that is more valuable to the Celtics then he is to other franchises. Not to mention he's a UFA after next season. Smart at 20+ million is not nearly as valuable as a piece then Smart at 13mill.

the question becomes...who can be had in a trade? Washington isn't going to rush off of Beal unless Beal strongly hints at wanting out. KAT/Edwards & the Wolves have shown enough promise to run it back and see what type of leap they can make next season. Dame is another interesting name to me. If Portland loses early in the playoffs does that franchise look at possibly resetting? Likely not, but you never know.

Any other big names you guys think could possibly become available in trade talks this summer?

Good idea but I just don't think trading Kemba is realistic. No one is going to want to take him in a trade with his overpriced contract, bad knees, old age, can't play D. That's why you hear Smart's name so much in trade rumors. Smart is 3 inches taller, 4 years younger, MUCH better defensively, less of an injury risk and takes up WAY less cap space than Kemba which means there is a trade market for Smart but not a trade market for Kemba..

The league is all about shooting. Fournier is a good shooter, a veteran with a solid all around skill set, he's a free agent this summer but will likely be sign in the $19-22 mil range so reasonable and much less than Kemba's contract. Fournier is much bigger than Kemba, less injury risk, better defense. Fournier is a free agent but celtics could move him in a sign a trade.

You explained why Time Lord is also a guy who could be valuable as a trade asset.

Same with Nesmith.

Brown is also a guy who many teams would want to trade for but I think Celtics see him as being off the table - plus, like you said - the goal is to add a 3rd star to go along with Tatum and Brown, the goal is not to trade Brown.

So for trade assets that other teams might actually want:

-Smart
-Fournier
-Time Lord
-Nesmith
-1st round picks (Ainge could include 1, maybe 2 1st round picks in a trade. He usually tries holding onto 1st rounders but he did include 2 in the KG trade)

So between those 4 players listed above + 1-2 1st round picks, that's 5-6 total assets. I can see us putting a good package together if we package up 4, maybe 5 of those assets and land a star player.

Then you have Tatum, Brown + the star you land via trade as big 3. Kemba becomes arguably the most dangerous 4th option in the league.

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Timelord has been a bright spot in an otherwise gloomy season. With that said, I still put him in the category of TRADE CHIP. Giving him a big payday is risky business. Right now he presents major value around the league as he's still on rookie scale deal (extension eligible this summer), and has sorta broken through as an intriguing defensive guru. I'd imagine that if Danny wants to get anything major done this offseason to improve this roster, he's going to need to dangle Timelord. Beyond Williams, there really isn't much else on the roster that will be sought after in trades. Maybe Nesmith as he's shown enough flashes to intrigue.
The goal for Danny should be to add a bonafide third star to join Tatum & Brown. Ainge should be focused on moving off of Kemba's deal and pairing that with Timelord and/or Nesmith, and picks.
That's really the only path.
A lot of people will say Smart is the piece you move. I just don't see it. Smart is one of those guys that is more valuable to the Celtics then he is to other franchises. Not to mention he's a UFA after next season. Smart at 20+ million is not nearly as valuable as a piece then Smart at 13mill.

the question becomes...who can be had in a trade? Washington isn't going to rush off of Beal unless Beal strongly hints at wanting out. KAT/Edwards & the Wolves have shown enough promise to run it back and see what type of leap they can make next season. Dame is another interesting name to me. If Portland loses early in the playoffs does that franchise look at possibly resetting? Likely not, but you never know.

Any other big names you guys think could possibly become available in trade talks this summer?

Sabonis might want out, but he's a major major risk b/c even though he's fairly durable (although in Boston that means nothing) his defense is absolutely atrocious

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Wow. That "more blocks than missed shots" stat is pretty crazy