What's your perfect(realistic) offseason?

[Mr B]

If the Mavs released all their cap holds this off season would they be able to make legit offers to John Collins and Duncan Robinson? I know both are restricted FA’s so the offers will have to be big but I’m not exactly sure how all that cap stuff works.

KP
Collins
Robinson
DFS
Luka

That looks like a pretty good starting 5.


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[ejs78]

What happened to all the Drummond love around here

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[Teffer10]

How deep into the POs would justify keeping this squad together?

[gottamakeit]

How deep into the POs would justify keeping this squad together?

To keep Timmy, i'd want to see strong games from him at a min. of one every other game.
There's very little that could convince me that keeping Richardson would be a good idea.
If Powell doesn't have much of an impact in these playoff games i think we aggressively try to move him.

Even if we don't make it far into the playoffs, i can't see the player evaluations changing much. In these first round games that we have, we need to throw everyone in the water to see who can perform and who can't.

[Mavrelous]

Right now it's Luka and DFS that are being exceptional, no way THJ signs for 30/3, 60/4 is the cheapest, and will probably cost more, I'd explore diuble S&T of THJ and Duncan to prevwnt bidding wars.
I'd also explore Hield from Kings, they should be looking to unload him.
The team needs defensive big and a big SF, not sure where to find them. OPJ is worth a try if nothing goes well.

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[DJ_3_Ball]

Serious question: Do you believe in THJ, or are you judging him on a sliding scale?

I gotta admit. I still grade THJ on a curve. He came to us as the $20/mil a year throw in. A guy the Knicks tried to give away, but no one was interested at that price. At first, I was happy to get anything productive out of THJ. Then he started having some good games, and then a few games where he had very poor shot selection, and I would go back & forth on the guy.

So, now when he has a good game I'm happy, and if he has a bad game or two, I let it slide. But, it's because I judge him on a different scale. If he were to resign for a 5 for $80 type of deal, then I think it would bother me a lot when he had no shows or went into a slump for a week or two.

I feel like everyone here is judging him on a curve too. Instead of looking at who he is as a player. Granted, he's very likeable, and I'll be happy if he comes back, but it shouldn't cloud our judgement.

[arkuo]

Serious question: Do you believe in THJ, or are you judging him on a sliding scale?

I gotta admit. I still grade THJ on a curve. He came to us as the $20/mil a year throw in. A guy the Knicks tried to give away, but no one was interested at that price. At first, I was happy to get anything productive out of THJ. Then he started having some good games, and then a few games where he had very poor shot selection, and I would go back & forth on the guy.

So, now when he has a good game I'm happy, and if he has a bad game or two, I let it slide. But, it's because I judge him on a different scale. If he were to resign for a 5 for $80 type of deal, then I think it would bother me a lot when he had no shows or went into a slump for a week or two.

I feel like everyone here is judging him on a curve too. Instead of looking at who he is as a player. Granted, he's very likeable, and I'll be happy if he comes back, but it shouldn't cloud our judgement.

THJ is what it is at this point. He will be judged by his next contract now that he has shown what he could do with and without Luka. His value is just dependent on having Luka feeding him. So let's hope he keeps his asking price low or he can sign with OKC.

I personally feel like Cuban is just letting things play out at this stage and waiting for Jokic to become a free agent in 2024. Jokic could replace KP then and is a Jeff Schwartz client. Denver continues losing in the playoffs and Jokic might want some Texas sunny weather for a change.

[Bnice5]

THJ should be paid like an elite 6th man… someone in the 14-18M/year range…. I think his recent performances mean that he will get paid much more than that. I’d be curious if we could pull off a quick valuable sign and trade scenario with him and get something back of value in return…

What is more interesting to me is the potential to trade KP this offseason. I think he is a dick and I don’t think he is good for team chemistry. I also think if Lauri Markkanen wants to be here, we could likely get him to sign in that 16-18M/ year range and he can give us the exact same thing KP gives us. I actually think he would be a better bet long term as the ability to keep a 7footer with an athletic body type healthy is probably better than keeping a 7’3 skinny guy healthy.

That kind of move frees up 15-20M per year in cap space and should help the chemistry. I think Lauri is a better shooter than KP and a better roll man than KP. His defense at the 5 would be bad, but KPs was **** this year anyways.

[Bnice5]

Could you trade KP to Charlotte straight up for Terry Rozier and then sign Markanenn and Holmes? Maybe you could swing a Richardson/Markannen Sign and trade to make cap space work more efficiently.

Luka / Brunson
Rozier / Green /Terry
DFS / 3&D /Tyler Bey
Markannen / Kleber
Holmes / Powell / WCS

[DJ_3_Ball]

THJ is what it is at this point. He will be judged by his next contract now that he has shown what he could do with and without Luka. His value is just dependent on having Luka feeding him. So let's hope he keeps his asking price low or he can sign with OKC.

I personally feel like Cuban is just letting things play out at this stage and waiting for Jokic to become a free agent in 2024. Jokic could replace KP then and is a Jeff Schwartz client. Denver continues losing in the playoffs and Jokic might want some Texas sunny weather for a change.

The falling in love with one special FA plan has never worked out well for the Mavs or for most teams for that matter. The Knicks traded KP to the Mavs to clear a path for Durant & Kyrie. Miami has all this cap room set aside for Giannis. How many teams thought they were in the Kawhi sweepstakes two years ago? Do we even need to recap the past 10 years of the Mavs setting cap space aside for the list of FAs they had their hearts set on?

I wouldn't expect Joker to come here. Why would you think that would happen? I don't wanna wait til 2024 either. Especially when we have a perennial league MVP on the roster. The 2022 FA class isn't too bad. We should be able to pick up some help there, and we might be able to get a RFA this summer and/or add a supplemental piece like Danny Green.

The worst option to me is to lock up THJ on a $20/mil a year contract and lose any flexibility.

[Darren]

Could you trade KP to Charlotte straight up for Terry Rozier and then sign Markanenn and Holmes? Maybe you could swing a Richardson/Markannen Sign and trade to make cap space work more efficiently.

Luka / Brunson
Rozier / Green /Terry
DFS / 3&D /Tyler Bey
Markannen / Kleber
Holmes / Powell / WCS

I don't think KP for Rozier is all that good. I don't really think Rozier is a tier over Brunson.

KP, J-Rich, Powell for Buddy, Bagley, and picks might works, though. I don't mind signing Markkanen afterall. I want D12 and Ntilikina on affordable term as well. Bagley and filler to Orlando for Bamba also works. The Mavs end up with players who's interested to be there. Texas native or international players. The Mavs saves significant space to re-sign DFS and Brunson.

C - Bamba / Howard? / Fall?
PF - Markkanen / Kleber / Bey
SF - Finney-Smith / Green / Hinton?
SG - Hield / Ntilikina? / Terry
PG - Doncic/ Brunson / Burke

The Mavs play untempo game with that roster. I think both Dwight Howard and Ntilikina are underrated.

[arkuo]

THJ is what it is at this point. He will be judged by his next contract now that he has shown what he could do with and without Luka. His value is just dependent on having Luka feeding him. So let's hope he keeps his asking price low or he can sign with OKC.

I personally feel like Cuban is just letting things play out at this stage and waiting for Jokic to become a free agent in 2024. Jokic could replace KP then and is a Jeff Schwartz client. Denver continues losing in the playoffs and Jokic might want some Texas sunny weather for a change.

The falling in love with one special FA plan has never worked out well for the Mavs or for most teams for that matter. The Knicks traded KP to the Mavs to clear a path for Durant & Kyrie. Miami has all this cap room set aside for Giannis. How many teams thought they were in the Kawhi sweepstakes two years ago? Do we even need to recap the past 10 years of the Mavs setting cap space aside for the list of FAs they had their hearts set on?

I wouldn't expect Joker to come here. Why would you think that would happen? I don't wanna wait til 2024 either. Especially when we have a perennial league MVP on the roster. The 2022 FA class isn't too bad. We should be able to pick up some help there, and we might be able to get a RFA this summer and/or add a supplemental piece like Danny Green.

The worst option to me is to lock up THJ on a $20/mil a year contract and lose any flexibility.

We as fans know this very well. But the team owner who thinks he's smarter than everyone else in the room? Not quite.

I bet every time Donnie has a trade idea, he splices it up like an episode of Shark Tank.

[ejs78]

The Kings will be very interesting this summer. They pretty much don't have the money to resign Holmes to what he's worth. If they want to they'll need to move off of Buddy or Bagley jr.

Could you trade KP to Charlotte straight up for Terry Rozier and then sign Markanenn and Holmes? Maybe you could swing a Richardson/Markannen Sign and trade to make cap space work more efficiently.

Luka / Brunson
Rozier / Green /Terry
DFS / 3&D /Tyler Bey
Markannen / Kleber
Holmes / Powell / WCS

I don't think KP for Rozier is all that good. I don't really think Rozier is a tier over Brunson.

KP, J-Rich, Powell for Buddy, Bagley, and picks might works, though. I don't mind signing Markkanen afterall. I want D12 and Ntilikina on affordable term as well. Bagley and filler to Orlando for Bamba also works. The Mavs end up with players who's interested to be there. Texas native or international players. The Mavs saves significant space to re-sign DFS and Brunson.

C - Bamba / Howard? / Fall?
PF - Markkanen / Kleber / Bey
SF - Finney-Smith / Green / Hinton?
SG - Hield / Ntilikina? / Terry
PG - Doncic/ Brunson / Burke

The Mavs play untempo game with that roster. I think both Dwight Howard and Ntilikina are underrated.

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[arkuo]

Could you trade KP to Charlotte straight up for Terry Rozier and then sign Markanenn and Holmes? Maybe you could swing a Richardson/Markannen Sign and trade to make cap space work more efficiently.

Luka / Brunson
Rozier / Green /Terry
DFS / 3&D /Tyler Bey
Markannen / Kleber
Holmes / Powell / WCS

I don't think KP for Rozier is all that good. I don't really think Rozier is a tier over Brunson.

KP, J-Rich, Powell for Buddy, Bagley, and picks might works, though. I don't mind signing Markkanen afterall. I want D12 and Ntilikina on affordable term as well. Bagley and filler to Orlando for Bamba also works. The Mavs end up with players who's interested to be there. Texas native or international players. The Mavs saves significant space to re-sign DFS and Brunson.

C - Bamba / Howard? / Fall?
PF - Markkanen / Kleber / Bey
SF - Finney-Smith / Green / Hinton?
SG - Hield / Ntilikina? / Terry
PG - Doncic/ Brunson / Burke

The Mavs play untempo game with that roster. I think both Dwight Howard and Ntilikina are underrated.

A frontcourt of Mo Bamba and Lauri Markannen is a first round exit in the Western Playoffs.

[41Dirk41]

I don't know how our PO run finish but the relationship between Luka and THJ are stronger game after game.
It could be a very huge mistake don't resign him, i hope like 4X60 or something like that.

[JD45]

I don't know how our PO run finish but the relationship between Luka and THJ are stronger game after game.
It could be a very huge mistake don't resign him, i hope like 4X60 or something like that.

Everything I have seen indicates THJ is a very well liked and high quality person. And he has really worked his game into a very useful role. I can't think of any non-tanking team where he wouldn't fit in.

Gallinari got 20 mil per year last year as a free agent. I just can't imagine THJ is going to be cheaper than that.

[BlazersBroncos]

Its going to be really hard to justify not paying THJ. You know Luka wants guys with his type of playoff intensity on his team. I think its got to be assumed he gets resigned, and likely paid 18-20M.

Honestly, as an outsider fan I am back on the 'trade Powell for more cap space even if you have to attach a FRP' bandwagon. Luka is ready to be surrounded by win-now vets right now.

Powell + Burke + Protected FRP for cap space (+14.3M)
Cut WCS (+4M)

SALARY - 72.68M
SALARY CAP - 112M
CAP SPACE - 39.32M

Sign Kyle Lowry - 19M AV
Resign THJ - 19M AV
JaVale McGee - Room MLE (Or portion of it)

G - Kyle Lowry / Jalen Brunson / Tyrell Terry
G - Tim Hardaway Jr / Jalen Brunson / Josh Green
F - Luka Doncic / Dorian Finney-Smith
F - Dorian Finney-Smith / Maxi Kleber
C - Kristaps Porzingis / JaVale McGee

Go win now, screw getting youth. Luka is ready.

[41Dirk41]

Is play with Luka and Carlisle good enough for take a discount? We will see...

[arkuo]

Its going to be really hard to justify not paying THJ. You know Luka wants guys with his type of playoff intensity on his team. I think its got to be assumed he gets resigned, and likely paid 18-20M.

Honestly, as an outsider fan I am back on the 'trade Powell for more cap space even if you have to attach a FRP' bandwagon. Luka is ready to be surrounded by win-now vets right now.

Powell + Burke + Protected FRP for cap space (+14.3M)
Cut WCS (+4M)

SALARY - 72.68M
SALARY CAP - 112M
CAP SPACE - 39.32M

Sign Kyle Lowry - 19M AV
Resign THJ - 19M AV
JaVale McGee - Room MLE (Or portion of it)

G - Kyle Lowry / Jalen Brunson / Tyrell Terry
G - Tim Hardaway Jr / Jalen Brunson / Josh Green
F - Luka Doncic / Dorian Finney-Smith
F - Dorian Finney-Smith / Maxi Kleber
C - Kristaps Porzingis / JaVale McGee

Go win now, screw getting youth. Luka is ready.

Agree with screw youth. You got a GM that cant develop or draft anything.

Personally I'd take Derozan more than Lowry here. 6'7 and has a reliable midrange game. For a team that shoots 50 threes a game, it would't hurt to try something inside. Even KP is afraid to score inside and hangs outside a lot.

[arkuo]

Sacramento is an ideal trading partner for Buddy Hield.

They want to ship him out to make more minutes for a Haliburton and Fox backcourt. They won't be spending all that money for Hield just to come off the bench. I'd say wait for Richardson to opt in, package him with Dwight Powell, add a pick and get Hield.

Re-sign THJ to 16 to 18M per. Sign Richaun Holmes or Montrezl Harrell with the money left. Give Josh Green a bigger role off the bench next year with a full training camp.

C - Porzingis / WCS
PF - Holmes / Kleber
SF - Hield / DFS
SG - THJ / Green
PG - Doncic / Brunson

That should elevate the quality of the starting 5. A lot of people prefer Giannis, but c'mon. THJ already has those Jason Terry numbers. Have Hield play the Caron Butler role.