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Post#2021 » by MartinToVaught » Mon May 24, 2021 1:34 am

Thibs bringing in Nkilitina to guard Trae gave me flashbacks to Mike Dunleavy bringing in Daniel Ewing to guard Raja Bell.
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Post#2022 » by GSP » Mon May 24, 2021 1:35 am

Basileus777 wrote:It remains to be seen if Paul's injury will linger.

But yeah, Suns probably should have benched him in the last few minutes as Paul was killing their offense.


Cam Payne was ejected tho so they had no options. Even Cp3 with one arm is more useful on offense than Jevon Carter.
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Post#2023 » by Colbinii » Mon May 24, 2021 2:48 am

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Krodis wrote:I don't know how Drummond convinces people he's not a huge negative.

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i am guessing vogel is not an analytics believer and is more of an old school basketball mmentality who sees big centers who grab lots of rebounds and plays back to the basket and falls in love

either that, or davis is demanding drummond plays?


I mean...it has to be someone like Davis championing for him.

1) Drummond hands are made of bricks. He can't catch anything under his chest.

2) He doesn't know how to run a pick and roll and since he has terrible hands, running a pick and roll isn't a worthwhile strategy.

3) He doesn't look like he is trying out there. He has the same exact, emotionless face whether he scorer or turns it over.
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Post#2024 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon May 24, 2021 2:55 am

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falcolombardi wrote:[streamable][/streamable]
Krodis wrote:I don't know how Drummond convinces people he's not a huge negative.

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i am guessing vogel is not an analytics believer and is more of an old school basketball mmentality who sees big centers who grab lots of rebounds and plays back to the basket and falls in love

either that, or davis is demanding drummond plays?


I mean...it has to be someone like Davis championing for him.

1) Drummond hands are made of bricks. He can't catch anything under his chest.

2) He doesn't know how to run a pick and roll and since he has terrible hands, running a pick and roll isn't a worthwhile strategy.

3) He doesn't look like he is trying out there. He has the same exact, emotionless face whether he scorer or turns it over.

And when he does catch it, it's far from a certainty that he'll actually finish the play. :-?
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Post#2025 » by Colbinii » Mon May 24, 2021 3:43 am

eminence wrote:
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Statlanta wrote:Casual fans see Pandemic P

I see Kawhi Leonard NOT leading his team like a Kobe-esque superstar by not playmaking or making his teammates or co-star better, not defending the best player on the other team and getting normal regular season stats that only moderately impact the game


Kawhi has never been a leader--this is nothing new and will never change considering his track record.

What he needs to do is join Utah Next offseason, lead them to a championship and then people will claim him as "The best in the NBA" once again.


I mean, I'd be fine with it, lol.


I bet :wink:
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Post#2026 » by CKRT » Mon May 24, 2021 4:12 am

Dying at Rudy flopping on the sideline after fouling out. Thought LeBron had the acting award wrapped up for the weekend.

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Post#2027 » by GSP » Mon May 24, 2021 4:17 am

Im sorry but Rudy is just a regular season player. I used to think he was underrated but its time and time again hes unreliable in the playoffs for his team on both ends. Good top 20 player but one of the worst contracts ever.
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Post#2028 » by Colbinii » Mon May 24, 2021 4:21 am

GSP wrote:Im sorry but Rudy is just a regular season player. I used to think he was underrated but its time and time again hes unreliable in the playoffs for his team on both ends. Good top 20 player but one of the worst contracts ever.


Rudy was +9 in the game...

It isn't his fault the team is missing Mitchell and desperately missed his playmaking from the perimeter.
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Post#2029 » by GSP » Mon May 24, 2021 4:24 am

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GSP wrote:Im sorry but Rudy is just a regular season player. I used to think he was underrated but its time and time again hes unreliable in the playoffs for his team on both ends. Good top 20 player but one of the worst contracts ever.


Rudy was +9 in the game...

It isn't his fault the team is missing Mitchell and desperately missed his playmaking from the perimeter.


only managed to play 25 minutes in a playoff game and fouled out b/c he couldnt guard Jonas or keep him off the glass

Clint Capela used to regularly push his **** in and now another big is giving him issues. He keeps struggling against bigs in the playoffs and Jokic was the only star big too. For his contract he's so unreliable when it matters in the playoffs

Shaq was right even Phoenix Shaq wouldve ended his career
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Post#2030 » by Colbinii » Mon May 24, 2021 4:34 am

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GSP wrote:Im sorry but Rudy is just a regular season player. I used to think he was underrated but its time and time again hes unreliable in the playoffs for his team on both ends. Good top 20 player but one of the worst contracts ever.


Rudy was +9 in the game...

It isn't his fault the team is missing Mitchell and desperately missed his playmaking from the perimeter.


only managed to play 25 minutes and fouled out b/c he couldnt guard Jonas or keep him off the glass

Clint Capela used to regularly push his **** in and now another big is giving him issues

Shaq was right even Phoenix Shaq wouldve ended his career


Clint Capela had Harden and CP3 throwing him lobs and averaged under 6 FGM in 2018.

I think the bigger issue is when you have a great point guard who can get to the rim relatively freely and consistently (Morant, Harden, CP3), it makes life very difficult for even the best defensive center in the league.

There is so much pressure on a player like Gobert to hold down everything defensively that once he is forced to help out on those point guards because of successful drives, Valanciunas and Capela can eat on the offensive glass.

The thing is, this is and would be true for any great defensive center playing in this era--Russell, Walton, Robinson, Mutombo, Hakeem--none of them had to face the dynamic guards of today with the combination of spacing complimenting offenses.

Hats off to Ja Morant. He was patient and picked his way into finding the perfect angles to finish, either using Jonas' size as a screen or cutting with the ball at unique angles making it impossible for Gobert to block his shot.
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Post#2031 » by eminence » Mon May 24, 2021 4:37 am

Anybody got the highlight for Brooks headbutt on Conley?
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Post#2032 » by penbeast0 » Mon May 24, 2021 4:37 am

GSP wrote:Im sorry but Rudy is just a regular season player. I used to think he was underrated but its time and time again hes unreliable in the playoffs for his team on both ends. Good top 20 player but one of the worst contracts ever.


Trade him to us (the Wizards for me, but also a good half of the other teams in the league). Please.
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Post#2033 » by falcolombardi » Mon May 24, 2021 4:45 am

4 out of 8 lower seeds won game 1 (grizzlies, blazers, mavs, hawks) and two of the lower seeds that lost are miami (that looks like they are tsking bucks to 6/7 grind) and lakers

is only 1 game for each series but this looks like an unusually close round 1, ar least for now
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Post#2034 » by eminence » Mon May 24, 2021 4:55 am

In general still wishing the NBA could get the bench under control. Rudy deserves a fine for his little baseline antics towards the end.

Dudley had a stunt the other day that was probably suspension worthy.
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Post#2035 » by LukaTheGOAT » Mon May 24, 2021 5:20 am

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Max123 wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:It's definitely the same player from the rest of 2020-21, barring a handful of games towards the end.

No disagreements there; thought he might turn it up clearly in the playoffs because I’ve always gotten the feel from AD that he takes the regular season really lightly in comparison the the playoffs.


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I didn't watch as much of him as a Pelican obviously, but at a glance this looks like easily his worst prime season. We're talking about a guy who's made All-NBA First Team four of the last six years, and he's looked nowhere near that level.


I knew things were bad potentially when AD said this https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/anthony_davis_on_2021_title_run_i_have_nothing_to_prove_to_anyone/s1_16751_34977065
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Post#2036 » by LukaTheGOAT » Mon May 24, 2021 5:21 am

eminence wrote:In general still wishing the NBA could get the bench under control. Rudy deserves a fine for his little baseline antics towards the end.

Dudley had a stunt the other day that was probably suspension worthy.


Random, but haven't you always been a Jazz fan? I see you now have the GSW icon, but still your Ingles profile pic? Have you switched sides :o ?
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Post#2037 » by eminence » Mon May 24, 2021 5:24 am

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eminence wrote:In general still wishing the NBA could get the bench under control. Rudy deserves a fine for his little baseline antics towards the end.

Dudley had a stunt the other day that was probably suspension worthy.


Random, but haven't you always been a Jazz fan? I see you now have the GSW icon, but still your Ingles profile pic? Have you switched sides :o ?


I love 'em both (particularly the Dray/Curry pairing for GS, more teamwide for Utah).
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Post#2038 » by Statlanta » Mon May 24, 2021 7:24 am

How much of the close results in today's 1 vs. 8 matchups were due to the play in requiring the 8th seed to play an elimination game, right before the playoffs and be fresh?
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Post#2039 » by 70sFan » Mon May 24, 2021 8:25 am

I know it's early, but so far Davis has been horrible in these first 2 games (including play-ins). It's not about him missing shots, it can happen to anyone. He's simply horrible with the ball in his hands, everytime he tries to make a move it takes decades for him to decide and he can't create anything outside of contested jumpshots.

It's possible that he'll get to his normal self throughout the playoffs, but he was injured for most of the season, so it's far from sure thing. I'm afraid that James can't carry this team alone for full 3 series anymore, eapecially without HC advantage. Without Davis improving, Suns could win this series.
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Post#2040 » by frica » Mon May 24, 2021 11:10 am

I wish the NBA would just do free throws at the end of each quarter.
It would massively speed up the game.

Example:
Shooting foul: 2 FTs for the player at the end of the quarter (3 if 3pt shot) + possession for the fouled team.
Bring back hand checking or something else to account for the increase in offensive efficiency. Although with less rest between fouls, maybe offensive efficiency naturally goes down.

The score shown during the game (but before the end of the quarter) will be points + FTs so it's easy to track who's (possibly) ahead.

I think that change would make the game several times smoother.

If it leads to problems in the 4th quarter, then go back to the old FT rules during the 4th.
Or you know, **** it. During the 4th. If you foul a player, they get their points but you get possession (as if they had just scored)

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