Josh Giddey - 6'8 Aussie PG

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Def not a PG

This post didn't age well.

He absolutely is a PG. Excellent vision, passing and instincts/feel for the game from the PG position. Very good ball handling.

Might be the best passer in the draft.

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Ya, he is rocketing up the boards. Pretty special feel for the game at his age.

Really struggling to find an apt NBA comparison for him. Livingston with a better shot and athleticism in the middle of pre and post injury?

Is Doncic too obvious of a comparison or are there things people see in Doncic at age 18 that they don't see in Giddey at age 18? Giddey is 1 inch taller than Doncic, with a less doughy build, just as good (if not better) in terms of passing/playmaking/court vision, just as good shooting (both players shot 31% from there during their age 18 season overseas), Giddey appears to be better defensively, has more of a high motor and is slightly quicker/more explosive off the dribble and even a touch more athletic/more of a high flyer.

[DCasey91]

Ya, he is rocketing up the boards. Pretty special feel for the game at his age.

Really struggling to find an apt NBA comparison for him. Livingston with a better shot and athleticism in the middle of pre and post injury?

Is Doncic too obvious of a comparison or are there things people see in Doncic at age 18 that they don't see in Giddey at age 18? Giddey is 1 inch taller than Doncic, with a less doughy build, just as good (if not better) in terms of passing/playmaking/court vision, just as good shooting (both players shot 31% from there during their age 18 season overseas), Giddey appears to be better defensively, has more of a high motor and is slightly quicker/more explosive off the dribble and even a touch more athletic/more of a high flyer.

I think no, Luka was one of the most accomplished teenagers ever, winning Eurobasket and the Euroleague title, MVP etc. Dude is a class above any prospect in this draft. He played with Dragic went up against serious NBA players (All stars, reg rotation players) and looked a class above at times. Young so he made mistakes/lapses but Luka was so far in front of everybody else that year it’s the worst draft blunder this century.

Luka is a big tanky 6”8 235+ pounder. Giddey is no way shape or form getting close to his body type.
Better ballhandler, Like two different tiers higher as a manipulator, better passer and a way way better scorer. Luka is Harden in a LBJ body without the explosiveness. He’s all the way special. Seen his dad? Dude is going to fill out massively. Even so He could rock up out of shape and still work over the league his skill lvl is ATG.

Giddey isn’t better at anything vs Luka age for age.
Closest and best as always description is a chilled out more composed less athletic ceiling version of Lamelo. But he’ll still be very good, it’s his body type that needs hard work, serious gym time. Luka needs a whole let less because as I like to call it he’s a natural burly man child lol.

[DCasey91]

Luka has a tanky as heck build. Gonna to have to keep in check his weight. Just born big everywhere, legs, torso etc. he has impressive genetic size, personality aside I bet he’d be naturally strong in the weight room.

Giddey isn’t a stick but not Lukas body type though he’s going to need a long time in the weight room. Got to add 15+20 pounds for sure.

[GimmeDat]

Fun little quote for the Ingles comparisons, from Joe Ingles (and a good article in general on Giddey) -

"I heard him say... that he compares himself to me a little bit, and I was like, dude, you're crazy, because you're so much f---ing better than I was at that age."

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/31439966/2021-nba-draft-how-one-year-nbl-turned-australia-josh-giddey-potential-lottery-pick

[BoogieTime]

Wouldn't mind the Kings taking him at 8-10. BBIQ is BBIQ. He will be guarding forwards or SGs IMO and will be interesting if he could fit off ball other ball dominant players or if he is just offensively mainly a PG who likes the ball in his hands

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Wouldn't mind the Kings taking him at 8-10. BBIQ is BBIQ. He will be guarding forwards or SGs IMO and will be interesting if he could fit off ball other ball dominant players or if he is just offensively mainly a PG who likes the ball in his hands

I get the appeal and it could work but at some point defense will require capital put towards it.

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Wouldn't mind the Kings taking him at 8-10. BBIQ is BBIQ. He will be guarding forwards or SGs IMO and will be interesting if he could fit off ball other ball dominant players or if he is just offensively mainly a PG who likes the ball in his hands

Giddey is a pure PG. Yeah he's 6'8" but really not built very strong so I wouldn't want him guarding forwards.

He's gonna want to play the 1, bring the ball up the court, run the offense. So will Fox.

I don't see the 2 of them mixing well.

If I'm the Kings, PG is the last position I'm looking to fill, followed by SG where you have Haliburton..

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Top 5 when people look back at the draft 5 years from now... I think this kid is absolutely going to be a star.

[DCasey91]

Top 5 when people look back at the draft 5 years from now... I think this kid is absolutely going to be a star.

I’m on the fence with Giddey being a star, good player no doubt about it all. The shot, scoring potential & defense and how his body will fill out are the most important parts for me. That’s 4 legitimate factors it’s rare that players hit all of their markers of potential. I mean if it comes around now we are talking but it won’t be straight away imo.

He’s below Ball on that account (Defense, the body size was a non issue for me, he’s a ball brother they are born with innate instincts on both ends of the court).

Earlier posts I mention he’s not a stick but he’s going to have to put in serious gym time because there’s a noticeable difference athleticism wise between Ball and Giddey even at NBL play pre draft. Giddey is more composed but that’s it.

[Marcus]

is there anyone seeing some SGA in his offensive game?

[DCasey91]

is there anyone seeing some SGA in his offensive game?

Not really TBH, Shai was like the worst kept secret pre draft and still got drafted lower that what he should have been lol. I remember a few posters were all over Shai early on, kind of like Giddey as the bolter. Clear difference though in his college play his finishing ability at the rim was high level stuff. Dude was a smooth as heck operator and was finishing with all types of moves.

For Giddey he’s a lesser version of Ball at basically every step of the way pre draft there’s no harm in that at all fwiw. I see being a top 10-5 player from this draft easily.
Best passer and best pure point guard in the draft? Giddey has the most sound case in that department

[Marcus]

is there anyone seeing some SGA in his offensive game?

Not really TBH, Shai was like the worst kept secret pre draft and still got drafted lower that what he should have been lol. I remember a few posters were all over Shai early on, kind of like Giddey as the bolter. Clear difference though in his college play his finishing ability at the rim was high level stuff. Dude was a smooth as heck operator and was finishing with all types of moves.

For Giddey he’s a lesser version of Ball at basically every step of the way pre draft there’s no harm in that at all fwiw. I see being a top 10-5 player from this draft easily.
Best passer and best pure point guard in the draft? Giddey has the most sound case in that department

Zo or Melo?

[DCasey91]

is there anyone seeing some SGA in his offensive game?

Not really TBH, Shai was like the worst kept secret pre draft and still got drafted lower that what he should have been lol. I remember a few posters were all over Shai early on, kind of like Giddey as the bolter. Clear difference though in his college play his finishing ability at the rim was high level stuff. Dude was a smooth as heck operator and was finishing with all types of moves.

For Giddey he’s a lesser version of Ball at basically every step of the way pre draft there’s no harm in that at all fwiw. I see being a top 10-5 player from this draft easily.
Best passer and best pure point guard in the draft? Giddey has the most sound case in that department

Zo or Melo?

Melo but not at the same level for me. If you watch their games back on the logs there’s clear differences between the two. But more then half the stuff they do with the ball in hand is the same when it comes to passing (entry, side to side, non dominant, sweep, overhead, pushing pass etc). Melo had a tighter handle but more out of control but he flashed higher games for me.

Easiest breakdown I can give you, if you take two homunculus with the same type of High IQ for basketball player X is the better athlete all ends up, and player Y but both are 6”8” PG’s.

Player X has a couple of coffee’s before the game : Lamelo (Wildstyle)

Player Y has a blunt before the game: Giddey (Chilled/Composed)

That’s basically it lol. He’s more than likely going to be a top ten passer in the NBA imo

[Marcus]

Not really TBH, Shai was like the worst kept secret pre draft and still got drafted lower that what he should have been lol. I remember a few posters were all over Shai early on, kind of like Giddey as the bolter. Clear difference though in his college play his finishing ability at the rim was high level stuff. Dude was a smooth as heck operator and was finishing with all types of moves.

For Giddey he’s a lesser version of Ball at basically every step of the way pre draft there’s no harm in that at all fwiw. I see being a top 10-5 player from this draft easily.
Best passer and best pure point guard in the draft? Giddey has the most sound case in that department

Zo or Melo?

Melo but not at the same level for me. If you watch their games back on the logs there’s clear differences between the two. But more then half the stuff they do with the ball in hand is the same when it comes to passing (entry, side to side, non dominant, sweep, overhead, pushing pass etc). Melo had a tighter handle but more out of control but he flashed higher games for me.

Easiest breakdown I can give you, if you take two homunculus with the same type of High IQ for basketball player X is the better athlete all ends up, and player Y but both are 6”8” PG’s.

Player X has a couple of coffee’s before the game : Lamelo (Wildstyle)

Player Y has a blunt before the game: Giddey (Chilled/Composed)

That’s basically it lol. He’s more than likely going to be a top ten passer in the NBA imo

Is Giddey effective on any team he lands on or is his game more dependent on a specific system or playing style?

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Zo or Melo?

Melo but not at the same level for me. If you watch their games back on the logs there’s clear differences between the two. But more then half the stuff they do with the ball in hand is the same when it comes to passing (entry, side to side, non dominant, sweep, overhead, pushing pass etc). Melo had a tighter handle but more out of control but he flashed higher games for me.

Easiest breakdown I can give you, if you take two homunculus with the same type of High IQ for basketball player X is the better athlete all ends up, and player Y but both are 6”8” PG’s.

Player X has a couple of coffee’s before the game : Lamelo (Wildstyle)

Player Y has a blunt before the game: Giddey (Chilled/Composed)

That’s basically it lol. He’s more than likely going to be a top ten passer in the NBA imo

Is Giddey effective on any team he lands on or is his game more dependent on a specific system or playing style?

Giddey

I think he’s going to be good on any team he lands on. Kid is sneaky athletic, and he’s at his best when he’s attacking and going downhill. Kid is one of those passers who creates something out of nothing, and is a master in the pick and roll.

Stylistically (styles not impact!!!) the way he passes is very Steve Nash like, he will make some passes where you wonder if he really does have eyes on the back of his head. People watch highlights, but highlights don’t really don’t do him any justice, some of Giddey’s best passes where when the receiver missed the shot. His jump shot is funky, but it’s definitely workable. Near the end of the season he was hitting and attempting shots he never even took in the begging (step back 3’s, side steps, off the dribble). I can’t say enough about Giddey I feel like he has huge potential. I wouldn’t be surprised if in 5 years time, people look back and people are placing him top 3 in a redraft.

Kid definetly does need to work on somethings though. He has a solid handle, but he definitely needs to tighten it up a notch. He’s also really weak at the moment, but he stood his own vs grown men in the NBL.

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Melo but not at the same level for me. If you watch their games back on the logs there’s clear differences between the two. But more then half the stuff they do with the ball in hand is the same when it comes to passing (entry, side to side, non dominant, sweep, overhead, pushing pass etc). Melo had a tighter handle but more out of control but he flashed higher games for me.

Easiest breakdown I can give you, if you take two homunculus with the same type of High IQ for basketball player X is the better athlete all ends up, and player Y but both are 6”8” PG’s.

Player X has a couple of coffee’s before the game : Lamelo (Wildstyle)

Player Y has a blunt before the game: Giddey (Chilled/Composed)

That’s basically it lol. He’s more than likely going to be a top ten passer in the NBA imo

Is Giddey effective on any team he lands on or is his game more dependent on a specific system or playing style?

Giddey

I think he’s going to be good on any team he lands on. Kid is sneaky athletic, and he’s at his best when he’s attacking and going downhill. Kid is one of those passers who creates something out of nothing, and is a master in the pick and roll.

Stylistically (styles not impact!!!) the way he passes is very Steve Nash like, he will make some passes where you wonder if he really does have eyes on the back of his head. People watch highlights, but highlights don’t really don’t do him any justice, some of Giddey’s best passes where when the receiver missed the shot. His jump shot is funky, but it’s definitely workable. Near the end of the season he was hitting and attempting shots he never even took in the begging (step back 3’s, side steps, off the dribble). I can’t say enough about Giddey I feel like he has huge potential. I wouldn’t be surprised if in 5 years time, people look back and people are placing him top 3 in a redraft.

Kid definetly does need to work on somethings though. He has a solid handle, but he definitely needs to tighten it up a notch. He’s also really weak at the moment, but he stood his own vs grown men in the NBL.

I think Giddey would be lethal on the Celtics. 2 young, talented scorers on the wing (Tatum and Brown) who are in desperate need of a pure pass-first PG to help the team move the ball better and have less isolation, less guys standing around on offense watching Brown/Tatum try to score. Giddey can help maximize the potential of Brown and Tatum, and also throw lobs up to Robert Williams.

[BlazersBroncos]

The more I watch him, the more I am convinced he should be #5. His athleticism is easily good enough, especially when its compensated for with his absurd feel for the game. The main thing I notice is that his 3PT release, and release in general, can be a bit slow. That can be corrected. But this kid is a gamer. You cant teach this feel or nose for the ball. He just looks absurdly comfortable on the floor playing with grown men. If you were to ask me who is more likely to be contributing for a winning team, Josh Giddey or Jalen Green (Who is much more naturally talented IMO), I would say Giddey without a doubt.

IDK if its been suggested yet, but he has some Manu to him. Not as twitchy, not as good defensively, but some offensive similarities IMO. A pure SF version of a not as twitchy Manu would be the comparison I go with right now.

[yosemiteben]

I'm sold on this guy at #11 for the Hornets, let Graham walk and let Giddey hold up the Melo role when he hits the bench. We've seen how Melo's ball movement can be infectious, would love to have an elite playmaker on the floor at all times.

[BlazersBroncos]

I'm sold on this guy at #11 for the Hornets, let Graham walk and let Giddey hold up the Melo role when he hits the bench. We've seen how Melo's ball movement can be infectious, would love to have an elite playmaker on the floor at all times.

The ball movement of a Ball / Giddy / Hayward trio would be poetry.