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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#561 » by Patsfan1081 » Tue May 25, 2021 12:37 am

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Yeah I believe Brad injured 2 of his 3 best players for the rest of the regular season when the Cs were in the drivers seat for the 6 seed at worst before those 2 Miami games, what's wrong with him.


We sucked all year.. by unbelievable levels. One of the worst 4th quarter offenses.. no kind of defense, no offensive system. No accountability, and a coach with a revolving door on rotations.. I am sure I missed few. Team played with no fire most of the time..

Yeah you're right..nothing wrong with brad


Yeah, there were a lot of reasons why this team was bad, Stevens was one of them. He’s a good coach, and part of the reason why he was always changing rotations was because this team lacks talent and Ainge filled the bench with too many young players. That being said players tuned him out and he can’t control them. It happens to a lot of good coaches.
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#562 » by playa-hater » Tue May 25, 2021 2:16 am

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Yeah I believe Brad injured 2 of his 3 best players for the rest of the regular season when the Cs were in the drivers seat for the 6 seed at worst before those 2 Miami games, what's wrong with him.


We sucked all year.. by unbelievable levels. One of the worst 4th quarter offenses.. no kind of defense, no offensive system. No accountability, and a coach with a revolving door on rotations.. I am sure I missed few. Team played with no fire most of the time..

Yeah you're right..nothing wrong with brad


Yeah, there were a lot of reasons why this team was bad, Stevens was one of them. He’s a good coach, and part of the reason why he was always changing rotations was because this team lacks talent and Ainge filled the bench with too many young players. That being said players tuned him out and he can’t control them. It happens to a lot of good coaches.


With all of what you said, isn't the single most vital item being "players tuned him out" at that point it really doesn't matter if Stevens is a good or bad coach, a change has to be made. I don't see how anyone can argue with that.
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#563 » by scottyno » Tue May 25, 2021 2:35 am

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Yeah I believe Brad injured 2 of his 3 best players for the rest of the regular season when the Cs were in the drivers seat for the 6 seed at worst before those 2 Miami games, what's wrong with him.


We sucked all year.. by unbelievable levels. One of the worst 4th quarter offenses.. no kind of defense, no offensive system. No accountability, and a coach with a revolving door on rotations.. I am sure I missed few. Team played with no fire most of the time..

Yeah you're right..nothing wrong with brad


Yeah, there were a lot of reasons why this team was bad, Stevens was one of them. He’s a good coach, and part of the reason why he was always changing rotations was because this team lacks talent and Ainge filled the bench with too many young players. That being said players tuned him out and he can’t control them. It happens to a lot of good coaches.


The main reason he was always changing rotations wasn't because they lacked talent, it was because the only thing consistent about the roster this year was that they were consistently missing different players nearly every night. Hard to keep regular rotations when you never know from week to week what your active roster is going to be, and even when those players were active he often had to work around minutes restrictions because they were either coming back from injury or had poor cardio because of covid. But somehow that's Brad's fault.
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#564 » by playa-hater » Tue May 25, 2021 2:47 am

scottyno wrote:
Patsfan1081 wrote:
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We sucked all year.. by unbelievable levels. One of the worst 4th quarter offenses.. no kind of defense, no offensive system. No accountability, and a coach with a revolving door on rotations.. I am sure I missed few. Team played with no fire most of the time..

Yeah you're right..nothing wrong with brad


Yeah, there were a lot of reasons why this team was bad, Stevens was one of them. He’s a good coach, and part of the reason why he was always changing rotations was because this team lacks talent and Ainge filled the bench with too many young players. That being said players tuned him out and he can’t control them. It happens to a lot of good coaches.


The main reason he was always changing rotations wasn't because they lacked talent, it was because the only thing consistent about the roster this year was that they were consistently missing different players nearly every night. Hard to keep regular rotations when you never know from week to week what your active roster is going to be, and even when those players were active he often had to work around minutes restrictions because they were either coming back from injury or had poor cardio because of covid. But somehow that's Brad's fault.


I don't remember all of your posts, but from what I can remember, you seem like a genuine nice guy. So I don't want to sound too critical. But there are countless of examples where this isn't true. the latest perhaps was Parker barely playing the last 5 regular season games or so. while Grant and Semi did. Even started Semi in one game I think. whatever. Parker ends up playing a lot in the first playoff game, while Semi and Grant sat (for right or wrong) even throw in C Edwards and his sporadic playing times. Nesmith playing well for 5 games mid -season then not even playing for almost 2 months. None of those examples had anything to do with injuries. Not sure why you don't see this.13 man rotations (all in half at times had nothing to do with missing time either.

I could go on, but you see my point.
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#566 » by JediMasterRevan » Tue May 25, 2021 1:54 pm

cloverleaf wrote:https://www.clnsmedia.com/perkins-nba-players-said-brad-stevens-aint-the-guy-for-the-celtics/

Update: Here's Perk's full interview/appearance--

https://www.celticsblog.com/2021/5/25/22452590/kendrick-perkins-nba-players-say-brad-stevens-is-not-the-guy-for-celtics-boston-clns-media-post-game



Perk is dead right
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#567 » by Ernest » Tue May 25, 2021 2:52 pm

Patsfan1081 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
scottyno wrote:
Yeah I believe Brad injured 2 of his 3 best players for the rest of the regular season when the Cs were in the drivers seat for the 6 seed at worst before those 2 Miami games, what's wrong with him.


We sucked all year.. by unbelievable levels. One of the worst 4th quarter offenses.. no kind of defense, no offensive system. No accountability, and a coach with a revolving door on rotations.. I am sure I missed few. Team played with no fire most of the time..

Yeah you're right..nothing wrong with brad


Yeah, there were a lot of reasons why this team was bad, Stevens was one of them. He’s a good coach, and part of the reason why he was always changing rotations was because this team lacks talent and Ainge filled the bench with too many young players. That being said players tuned him out and he can’t control them. It happens to a lot of good coaches.


What is that based on? I mean maybe it's true but I watched every game and never got that impression at all.
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#568 » by sam_I_am » Tue May 25, 2021 3:55 pm

Perkins suggests that McMillan in Atlanta is doing a better job. Really??? Has McMillan coached a team to conference finals 3 of past 4 season?

Boston went to ECF last year. 2 other teams that did as well - LA and Miami, 7 and 6 seeds respectively - and also winless in playoffs this year. Neither of those teams are missing the second best player on their team. Neither of those teams lost a max contract former all star in off season.

I’m sorry, but Perkins is just another talking head trying to get attention for himself.

LA Clippers fired Doc and how is that working out? We fire Brad and the team will get a lot worse. I may not be happy with this season, but objectively the least of the team’s problems is Brad. Kemba’s knees, Brown’s wrist, Time lord’s toe, Fournier’s Covid and an opposing team with 3 all NBA first team caliber players and 2 MVPs (ie. historical talent level) are far bigger problems right now.

Only way this team could win under these circumstances right now is for Tatum to play like Luka Doncic when double teamed. I do believe he will get better at that some day but he isn’t good enough to beat a trio of future hall of famers - let alone the Greek freak or the Sixers - when a hobbled Kemba is the next best player on roster.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#569 » by Bleeding Green » Tue May 25, 2021 5:00 pm

Perkins just sucks, he just wants to say things loud so he can stay on TV despite all the evidence that he's really bad at it.
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#570 » by Slade3 » Tue May 25, 2021 6:13 pm

If you do fire Brad, who are you going to get that's better than him? Or are you just looking to swing for the fence and see what you get?
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Post#571 » by GoCeltics123 » Tue May 25, 2021 6:30 pm

Perk said Scott Brooks was better and I just tuned out there. Dude might get fired, and definitely would've if he missed the playoffs.

I'm not 100% sold on Brad by any means but the arguments people on this thread make are just hilariously bad
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#572 » by cloverleaf » Tue May 25, 2021 7:29 pm

sam_I_am wrote:Perkins suggests that McMillan in Atlanta is doing a better job. Really??? Has McMillan coached a team to conference finals 3 of past 4 season?

Boston went to ECF last year. 2 other teams that did as well - LA and Miami, 7 and 6 seeds respectively - and also winless in playoffs this year. Neither of those teams are missing the second best player on their team. Neither of those teams lost a max contract former all star in off season.

I’m sorry, but Perkins is just another talking head trying to get attention for himself.

LA Clippers fired Doc and how is that working out? We fire Brad and the team will get a lot worse. I may not be happy with this season, but objectively the least of the team’s problems is Brad. Kemba’s knees, Brown’s wrist, Time lord’s toe, Fournier’s Covid and an opposing team with 3 all NBA first team caliber players and 2 MVPs (ie. historical talent level) are far bigger problems right now.

Only way this team could win under these circumstances right now is for Tatum to play like Luka Doncic when double teamed. I do believe he will get better at that some day but he isn’t good enough to beat a trio of future hall of famers - let alone the Greek freak or the Sixers - when a hobbled Kemba is the next best player on roster.


Stevens has had major issues with his teams quitting/underperforming two of the last three years.

And yes, McMillan has a much better-coached team this season. This is the first year he's had competitive (though young) talent.

The C's actually didn't lose as much in combined injury and illness as many teams this year:

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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#573 » by cloverleaf » Tue May 25, 2021 7:31 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:Perk said Scott Brooks was better and I just tuned out there. Dude might get fired, and definitely would've if he missed the playoffs.

I'm not 100% sold on Brad by any means but the arguments people on this thread make are just hilariously bad


Brooks has surely done better than Stevens this year.
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#574 » by Red2 » Tue May 25, 2021 8:48 pm

Perk just threw gasoline and then set it on fire. Im always suspicious when someone says a bunch of unnamed people dont think Brad is right for the C’s. Who are they? Usually when someone says something like that its one guy. I could see Rondo saying that and Perk extrapolating that to mean multiple players. I do think there’s evidence that his players have tuned him out and i also think his demeanor hurts him at time. And I certainly get the respect thing. If youre going to coach “ superstars” it helps to have a coach who has played in the league and knows how to handle egos. Brad is a smart coach but i dont think hes done a very good job of shifting gears when his schemes aren’t working
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#575 » by GoCeltics123 » Tue May 25, 2021 10:05 pm

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GoCeltics123 wrote:Perk said Scott Brooks was better and I just tuned out there. Dude might get fired, and definitely would've if he missed the playoffs.

I'm not 100% sold on Brad by any means but the arguments people on this thread make are just hilariously bad


Brooks has surely done better than Stevens this year.

Do not justify Scott Brooks being better at anything coaching than Brad Stevens. All he's done in his career is lose to Brad including this year
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#576 » by cloverleaf » Tue May 25, 2021 10:25 pm

Red2 wrote:Perk just threw gasoline and then set it on fire. Im always suspicious when someone says a bunch of unnamed people dont think Brad is right for the C’s. Who are they? Usually when someone says something like that its one guy. I could see Rondo saying that and Perk extrapolating that to mean multiple players. I do think there’s evidence that his players have tuned him out and i also think his demeanor hurts him at time. And I certainly get the respect thing. If youre going to coach “ superstars” it helps to have a coach who has played in the league and knows how to handle egos. Brad is a smart coach but i dont think hes done a very good job of shifting gears when his schemes aren’t working


Current players aren't stupid. They see how the C's have been performing. They also talk to the Celtics players and Perk still has a lot of contacts and friends in the league.
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#577 » by grindtime22 » Tue May 25, 2021 11:12 pm

Perk sold his soul to become the next Ryan Hollins with a repertoire of punch lines. He has burned pretty much all his credibility in a really short period of time.

Scott Brooks... really? He may have that dog in him, but its a really dumb breed.
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#578 » by LoquaciousLarry » Wed May 26, 2021 12:44 am

Scott Brooks is not the guy to put the Celtics over the top. If they're moving on from Brad they better have a great coach as his replacement. If no one's available, it makes sense as an organization and monetarily to keep Brad and try to improve upon the obvious weaknesses that they have on the roster.
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#579 » by jmr07019 » Wed May 26, 2021 1:15 am

Celtics need a major shake up and since it’s unlikely that we can trade Kemba changing coaches seems like the move. You can’t have the team show a complete lack of effort 2 out of the last 3 years.
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#580 » by Green89 » Wed May 26, 2021 1:20 am

How the **** does Brad finally realize in the playoffs he shouldn't be playing Semi and Grant, when he played them down the final stretch of the season when we went 5-10?? Probably wouldn't have been a 7 seed had he just not played those 2 most of the season.

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