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OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins

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Re: OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins 

Post#621 » by heir_jordan22 » Tue May 25, 2021 3:25 am

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sco wrote:IMO it is gonna take a few weeks for the OLine to gel. Better to let Dalton be the tackling dummy and give Fields time to observe.

assuming that fields is on the standard rookie learning curve, i'd tend to agree. but maybe he shines in camp/preseason

NFL QBs don’t learn holding a clipboard on the sidelines. The popular fiction about sitting for a year is so overblown. NFL is a learning process on the field during games at high speed. The sooner he gets out there, the better the Bears will be more quickly down the line. Wasted time on Dalton will have the fans and media breathing down the Bears neck. Hopefully they use the right calculus and are blowing smoke trying to tamp down expectations.

The popular fiction that players need to play in games in the NFL to develop is overblown. This isn't isn't nba where there are just as many games as practices. This is the NFL. There are several practices a week and one game a week. And everyone should be getting just as many reps in every practice as they would in any game. Players in the NFL develop in practice, in a controlled environment where it's less likely that they'll get injured.

I want Fields to win the job, and I'm sure he will very early on, but you don't just put a guy in the games for him to develop. It's just an unnecessary spotlight on a development player.
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Re: OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins 

Post#622 » by Susan » Wed May 26, 2021 9:56 pm

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Re: OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins 

Post#623 » by fleet » Wed May 26, 2021 10:59 pm

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Re: OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins 

Post#624 » by Michael Jackson » Wed May 26, 2021 11:17 pm

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I think they make Reinsdorf look like a great free spending loving owner so I am all for this. Hard to believe though, because if I believe it I could have my heart broken.
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Re: OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins 

Post#625 » by Leslie Forman » Thu May 27, 2021 4:13 pm

Reinsdorf buying the Bears would be the most Chicago thing ever.
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Re: OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins 

Post#626 » by Susan » Thu May 27, 2021 5:52 pm

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I think they make Reinsdorf look like a great free spending loving owner so I am all for this. Hard to believe though, because if I believe it I could have my heart broken.


The Bears have spent plenty in the past 15 years, their issues start and end with the lack of elite play at the QB position.
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Re: OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins 

Post#627 » by Jcool0 » Thu May 27, 2021 10:20 pm

Leslie Forman wrote:Reinsdorf buying the Bears would be the most Chicago thing ever.


Reinsdorf couldn't afford the Bears even if he sold both the Sox and Bulls.
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Re: OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins 

Post#628 » by Leslie Forman » Thu May 27, 2021 10:40 pm

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Leslie Forman wrote:Reinsdorf buying the Bears would be the most Chicago thing ever.


Reinsdorf couldn't afford the Bears even if he sold both the Sox and Bulls.

Him and his silent partners could absolutely get the loans to make it happen.

I'm not saying I want it to happen. But the McCaskeys seems like the exact type of people who would take a lower offer from someone Reinsdorf-ian over some fancy hotshot billionaire with no Chicago ties.
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Re: OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins 

Post#629 » by Susan » Thu May 27, 2021 11:02 pm

Leslie Forman wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
Leslie Forman wrote:Reinsdorf buying the Bears would be the most Chicago thing ever.


Reinsdorf couldn't afford the Bears even if he sold both the Sox and Bulls.

Him and his silent partners could absolutely get the loans to make it happen.

I'm not saying I want it to happen. But the McCaskeys seems like the exact type of people who would take a lower offer from someone Reinsdorf-ian over some fancy hotshot billionaire with no Chicago ties.


Ryan, 83, is the favorite. The billionaire businessman -- in partnership with 91-year-old Andy McKenna -- owns 19.7% of the Bears. He also holds the right-of-first-refusal as "primary investor" if any of the McCaskey stock comes up for sale.

Sons Pat Ryan Jr. and Rob Ryan are energized entrepreneurs who have diversified interests while attempting to maintain the vigor of their father.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Ryan_(executive)

I really hope this isn't doesn't wind up with the Bears in Arlington Heights. That's the dumbest **** ever.
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Re: OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins 

Post#630 » by Leslie Forman » Fri May 28, 2021 12:07 am

Sports franchise owners hate spending their own money, Arlington Heights is just being used as a bargaining chip to get a better deal from Chicago, like it has been the past 40 something years.
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Re: OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins 

Post#631 » by TheStig » Fri May 28, 2021 12:13 am

Leslie Forman wrote:Sports franchise owners hate spending their own money, Arlington Heights is just being used as a bargaining chip to get a better deal from Chicago, like it has been the past 40 something years.

They have an iconic stadium on the lake. I can't see them moving to the burbs.
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Re: OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins 

Post#632 » by Jcool0 » Fri May 28, 2021 2:12 am

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Leslie Forman wrote:Sports franchise owners hate spending their own money, Arlington Heights is just being used as a bargaining chip to get a better deal from Chicago, like it has been the past 40 something years.

They have an iconic stadium on the lake. I can't see them moving to the burbs.


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Re: OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins 

Post#633 » by Leslie Forman » Fri May 28, 2021 2:47 am

TheStig wrote:
Leslie Forman wrote:Sports franchise owners hate spending their own money, Arlington Heights is just being used as a bargaining chip to get a better deal from Chicago, like it has been the past 40 something years.

They have an iconic stadium on the lake. I can't see them moving to the burbs.

The stadium kinda sucks. But they don't want to move either, because they don't want to pay for a new stadium.

So we have this endless cycle where they always threaten to leave using the leverage of Soldier Field sucking, but ultimately going nowhere because the McCaskeys are probably one of the poorest owners in the league.
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Re: OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins 

Post#634 » by Jeffster81 » Fri May 28, 2021 3:06 am

Leslie Forman wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
Leslie Forman wrote:Reinsdorf buying the Bears would be the most Chicago thing ever.


Reinsdorf couldn't afford the Bears even if he sold both the Sox and Bulls.

Him and his silent partners could absolutely get the loans to make it happen.

I'm not saying I want it to happen. But the McCaskeys seems like the exact type of people who would take a lower offer from someone Reinsdorf-ian over some fancy hotshot billionaire with no Chicago ties.


There is no chance Reinsdorf buys the Bears. If the McCaskey's sell the Bears, they'll want full value.
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Re: OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins 

Post#635 » by Susan » Fri May 28, 2021 4:01 am

Leslie Forman wrote:Sports franchise owners hate spending their own money, Arlington Heights is just being used as a bargaining chip to get a better deal from Chicago, like it has been the past 40 something years.


Man, how much trust do you have in Lori?
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Re: OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins 

Post#636 » by Michael Jackson » Fri May 28, 2021 1:16 pm

Leslie Forman wrote:
TheStig wrote:
Leslie Forman wrote:Sports franchise owners hate spending their own money, Arlington Heights is just being used as a bargaining chip to get a better deal from Chicago, like it has been the past 40 something years.

They have an iconic stadium on the lake. I can't see them moving to the burbs.

The stadium kinda sucks. But they don't want to move either, because they don't want to pay for a new stadium.

So we have this endless cycle where they always threaten to leave using the leverage of Soldier Field sucking, but ultimately going nowhere because the McCaskeys are probably one of the poorest owners in the league.



I’m still waiting for the Gary Bears. It’s not just the Bears though, the site in Elk Grove which was supposed to house the Cubs and Addison. Reinsdorf was moving the Sox to Florida. This is just another threat. That being said I do thing Arlington will do something with that space. Bud hill has threatened to close it for the past 2 years. It isn’t the worst location as far as accessibility either, I just can’t see the Bears moving there.
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Re: OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins 

Post#637 » by Hold That » Fri May 28, 2021 3:20 pm

Hopefully it’s Jeff Bezos, literally the only billionaire I have confidence in building a state of the art stadium out of those billionaires on the list. The man is worth 180billion, sell it too someone with deep enough pockets to use his own money. Most of these stadiums cost about 2-3 billion to build.

Even if the bears have too play outside of solider field for a year, while the new stadium is being built, they need to keep the team by the lake.

Selling it to an 80+ year old billionaire just so he can pass it down to his sons, is the most ridiculous thing ever. Sell it to someone who is responsible for building an empire and young enough to own the team himself for 20+ years.
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Re: OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins 

Post#638 » by CaPiTanAK » Fri May 28, 2021 3:23 pm

Bezos will turn this franchise into a well run oiled machine, top 3 easily in term of how things are done in term of proper talent evaluation, and efficient utilization of resources. Bezos might not be a football guy, but he knows how to evaluate talent. That's in undeniable as evident by Amazon. And I'm pretty sure that a guy with his IQ can learn how to run a football team and max out its potential.

The others look and sound like bums that will doom this franchise the league doormat as expected. I don't want anything to do with that Ryan guy. He sounds like the typical Chicago rich guy who has profited massively off Chicago political corruption with minimal talent.
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Re: OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins 

Post#639 » by Jcool0 » Fri May 28, 2021 4:24 pm

CaPiTanAK wrote:Bezos will turn this franchise into a well run oiled machine, top 3 easily in term of how things are done in term of proper talent evaluation, and efficient utilization of resources. Bezos might not be a football guy, but he knows how to evaluate talent. That's in undeniable as evident by Amazon. And I'm pretty sure that a guy with his IQ can learn how to run a football team and max out its potential.

The others look and sound like bums that will doom this franchise the league doormat as expected. I don't want anything to do with that Ryan guy. He sounds like the typical Chicago rich guy who has profited massively off Chicago political corruption with minimal talent.


Just because someone made a lot of money doesnt mean they know how to properly set up a football organization. Jerry Jones is worth almost 9 billion and that team hasn't been to an NFC title game since 1995. David Tepper is worth 14.5 billion dollars and he wants public money to fund a new stadium. Shahid Khan is worth 8 billion and he thought bringing in Tom Coughlin to run things was a good idea.
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Re: OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins 

Post#640 » by TheStig » Fri May 28, 2021 4:33 pm

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Leslie Forman wrote:
TheStig wrote:They have an iconic stadium on the lake. I can't see them moving to the burbs.

The stadium kinda sucks. But they don't want to move either, because they don't want to pay for a new stadium.

So we have this endless cycle where they always threaten to leave using the leverage of Soldier Field sucking, but ultimately going nowhere because the McCaskeys are probably one of the poorest owners in the league.



I’m still waiting for the Gary Bears. It’s not just the Bears though, the site in Elk Grove which was supposed to house the Cubs and Addison. Reinsdorf was moving the Sox to Florida. This is just another threat. That being said I do thing Arlington will do something with that space. Bud hill has threatened to close it for the past 2 years. It isn’t the worst location as far as accessibility either, I just can’t see the Bears moving there.

I can't see the Bears leaving. Just like the Cubs will never leave that stadium either.

And the site in AH will become a mall or apartments or something with a tie in to horse racing as the theme. Very sad.

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