WC | Rd. 1| (1) Jazz vs (8) Grizzlies [Jazz win 4-1]

John Murdoch · Post #1101 » by **John Murdoch** » Thu May 27, 2021 5:14 am

VCfor3 wrote:The most important takeaway from this series is that Ja looks like he can in fact be that guy for Memphis. He usually rises to the challenge but it has been a rough season for him relative to the lofty expectations he was given after his rookie year. Add in one more core piece plus JJJ getting a full offseason and season to develop and we start to look dangerous moving forward.

Id prob try and sell on JJJ while he still has value , gives me WCJ vibez

dautjazz · Post #1102 » by **dautjazz** » Thu May 27, 2021 5:16 am

Jazztop wrote:1. Jazz got some calls but nothing that really changed the outcome or flow of the game
2. Ja is the best young PG in the game, followed by LaMelo

Doncic is a 22yr old PG. Is he old?

Bologna Smasher · Post #1103 » by **Bologna Smasher** » Thu May 27, 2021 5:17 am

tugs wrote:So if you're Utah, do you let Ja get his and freeze the rest?

Still believe Jazz lacks that physical perimeter defender to put clamps on quick, athletic guards.

Trent Forrest is the answer!

Seriously though, Shaquille Harrison would be that guy if they had kept him. People just seen the headache he gave Lillard the other day and he only played like 10 minutes.

dautjazz · Post #1104 » by **dautjazz** » Thu May 27, 2021 5:18 am

GSP wrote:As good as Donovan was offensively his defense is really bad. He has the size, athleticism and wingspan to be far better than he is defensively.

No Wade comp should be attached to him until he can be a good defender at the least. His defense was horrible last playoffs too.

Donovan is 6'1". He has great wingspan, and athletism, but he's very short. He is pretty strong for his size.

Catchall · Post #1105 » by **Catchall** » Thu May 27, 2021 5:19 am

Bologna Smasher wrote:
tugs wrote:So if you're Utah, do you let Ja get his and freeze the rest?

Still believe Jazz lacks that physical perimeter defender to put clamps on quick, athletic guards.

Trent Forrest is the answer!

Seriously though, Shaquille Harrison would be that guy if they had kept him. People just seen the headache he gave Lillard the other day and he only played like 10 minutes.

The Jazz's best guard defender might be Miye Oni, but I think what the Jazz will do is back off Ja's jumper and trap him just below the foul line. They'll leave someone open and stay attached to Valanciunas. Really, they should sag way off of Jaren Jackson.

Bruin · Post #1106 » by **Bruin** » Thu May 27, 2021 5:20 am

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GSP · Post #1107 » by **GSP** » Thu May 27, 2021 5:22 am

dautjazz wrote:
GSP wrote:As good as Donovan was offensively his defense is really bad. He has the size, athleticism and wingspan to be far better than he is defensively.

No Wade comp should be attached to him until he can be a good defender at the least. His defense was horrible last playoffs too.
Donovan is 6'1". He has great wingspan, and athletism, but he's very short. He is pretty strong for his size.

Cp3 is 5'11. Fred Vanfleet must be 5'9 without shoes. Both are great defenders or were in Cp3s case since hes old now.

BudTugly · Post #1108 » by **BudTugly** » Thu May 27, 2021 5:23 am

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Nice take bruh

Illuminati NBA cannot let the massive Jazz market down

Well done sir

Jazztop · Post #1109 » by **Jazztop** » Thu May 27, 2021 5:30 am

dautjazz wrote:
Jazztop wrote:1. Jazz got some calls but nothing that really changed the outcome or flow of the game
2. Ja is the best young PG in the game, followed by LaMelo
Doncic is a 22yr old PG. Is he old?

Nope, he’s a young PG too.

MemphisX · Post #1110 » by **MemphisX** » Thu May 27, 2021 5:32 am

Luka, Ja, Trae, SGA, LaMelo...league is in good hands

Catchall · Post #1111 » by **Catchall** » Thu May 27, 2021 6:07 am

Ja Morant had 26 shot attempts, plus 20 free-throws. So really, 36 shot attempts. I'm not sure if the Jazz allowed that on purpose, but I'm not sure I've ever seen a player take that many attempts and get that many free-throws.

Mike Conley played like a legit All Star, controlling the 4th quarter and finishing with 20/15.

The Rainmaker · Post #1112 » by **The Rainmaker** » Thu May 27, 2021 6:11 am

The Grizzlies could've win this game if they played mediocre defense.

Tomazan · Post #1113 » by **Tomazan** » Thu May 27, 2021 7:15 am

dautjazz wrote:
Jazztop wrote:1. Jazz got some calls but nothing that really changed the outcome or flow of the game
2. Ja is the best young PG in the game, followed by LaMelo
Doncic is a 22yr old PG. Is he old?

Both born in 1999. Trae who was born in 1998 (as much as I dislike his game) is also better than Ja and LaMelo. TBH, there are other young PG's who are better than LaMelo - for example Shai.

Castle Black · Post #1114 » by **Castle Black** » Thu May 27, 2021 8:38 am

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Clown take. Especially when you consider that Memphis shot 7 more FT’s than Utah and Ja shot 20 by himself. But I’d expect nothing less from this idiot masquerading as an NBA analyst.

Alatan · Post #1115 » by **Alatan** » Thu May 27, 2021 12:30 pm

Havent watched the series but its interesting how playoffs teams seem to easily score on the Jazz. Morant with almost 50 repeating what Murray did last season.

Makes me question how good Gobert really is as a defender.

Dacost · Post #1116 » by **Dacost** » Thu May 27, 2021 12:38 pm

Grizz need to hide Brooks on the first half of games so he can stay out of foul trouble is that simple.

JJJ looks like a baby calf out there and yes sure he is only 20 but you have to put some freaking muscle especially in the legs.

Nate505 · Post #1117 » by **Nate505** » Thu May 27, 2021 3:52 pm

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Rauxcee · Post #1118 » by **Rauxcee** » Thu May 27, 2021 4:25 pm

Alatan wrote:Havent watched the series but its interesting how playoffs teams seem to easily score on the Jazz. Morant with almost 50 repeating what Murray did last season.

Makes me question how good Gobert really is as a defender.

Maybe you, or someone else can explain something to me: why is a 7 foot center, an actual center- not just someone playing as a center- expected to spend the game as the primary defender of a guard?

In my limited 25 years of basketball I've watched some famtastic gaurds and some fantastic defensive bigs, but I don't believe I've ever seen a center that was supposed to be gaurding a gaurd the whole time. Help defense, sure. But primary responsibility? Never.

Why is Gobert expected to be gaurding gaurds instead of the paint where he excels at? If he's gaurding gaurds, who is gairding the other teams bigs and rebounding? Bogey? Conley? Royce? Thats a disaster waiting to happen.

Could it be, that the reason gaurds go off on the Jazz is because our gaurds can't defend a traffic cone most nights? We have below average perimeter defenders. But I'm sure its because we aren't utilizing Gobert correctly. He should be gaurding gaurds, not the paint if I have that right according to the GB.

Alatan · Post #1119 » by **Alatan** » Thu May 27, 2021 5:00 pm

Rauxcee wrote:
Alatan wrote:Havent watched the series but its interesting how playoffs teams seem to easily score on the Jazz. Morant with almost 50 repeating what Murray did last season.

Makes me question how good Gobert really is as a defender.

Maybe you, or someone else can explain something to me: why is a 7 foot center, an actual center- not just someone playing as a center- expected to spend the game as the primary defender of a guard?

In my limited 25 years of basketball I've watched some famtastic gaurds and some fantastic defensive bigs, but I don't believe I've ever seen a center that was supposed to be gaurding a gaurd the whole time. Help defense, sure. But primary responsibility? Never.

Why is Gobert expected to be gaurding gaurds instead of the paint where he excels at? If he's gaurding gaurds, who is gairding the other teams bigs and rebounding? Bogey? Conley? Royce? Thats a disaster waiting to happen.

Could it be, that the reason gaurds go off on the Jazz is because our gaurds can't defend a traffic cone most nights? We have below average perimeter defenders. But I'm sure its because we aren't utilizing Gobert correctly. He should be gaurding gaurds, not the paint if I have that right according to the GB.

If those guards were scoring a wast number of threes i could understand that Gobert cant affect that but most of the points scored were near the paint and Gobert couldnt do squat about it. He also cant stop or even slow down top players at his position from scoring theirs. So he cant defend top centers, cant erase mistakes of guards and cant survive stretch bigs. Whats the point of him?
Im poking the hive because he is lauded as this mythical defensive force that makes your defense better by just being there. Obviously he is not. He is a very limited player that as all other defenders relies on team defense being good.

Thats my point.

bobobolas10 · Post #1120 » by **bobobolas10** » Thu May 27, 2021 5:05 pm

Sometimes, the total amount of FTs may be a hint wherter the game was bad officiated or not. In this case, even if Memphis shot 7FT more, that doesnt neccesary mean that it was ok. Having JV and Brooks out of the game in the 1st Q was huge.

Someone said we have the worst bench in the nba. Well, it was easy to say if you have just watched these 2 PO games, however, we have the 6th best bench in scoring, 2nd best in Assists, 3rd best in total rebounds... I mean, that must mean something. They will eventually step up.

We have had a bad game, Jazz have had their best game ever in scoring in a PO game. Im sure we will win at least one game in memphis.

Who wins the series?