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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1921 » by the_process » Mon May 24, 2021 1:56 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:I would honestly consider trading him for LaVine + Thad + a FRP.

Hill/Maxey/Milton
LaVine/Curry/Joe
Green/Thybulle/FRP
Harris/Thad/SRP
Embiid/Howard/Reed


Since CHI went all in on Vucevic and owe two firsts to ORL (what an awful trade that was); maybe you can squeeze them for 2022 and 2024 swaps plus a 2026 1st? They would have be sold on Coby White, but it certainly gives them some star power. Even still, it seems to me you could get more value from MIN or GSW than that, depending on the draft lottery. Minnesota, with the new owners, will likely be looking to make a splash as well, even though they aren’t taking over right away.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1922 » by cool93 » Thu May 27, 2021 12:53 am

I am VERY impressed by Beal so far in this series, I think he is the answer to pretty much all our problems if we somehow manage to get him without giving up Ben.
Would this be enough to entice Wizards if Harris continues to play well in playoffs?

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Guarantee Hill's contract, sign Green for whatever exception we have.

Hill
Beal/Korkmaz
Green/Thybulle
Simmons
Embiid/Howard

I think this team would be good enough to win it all.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1923 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu May 27, 2021 1:51 am

^^^I'd do it minus Maxey and the 2027 1st. Not sure where Washington will be in terms of rebuilding vs wanting to compete more after this series though.


Simmons(14)/Hill(20)/Maxey(14)
Beal(34)/Thybulle(8)/Maxey(6)
Green(28)/Thybulle(20)
Bertans(28)/Simmons(20)
Embiid(32)/Howard(16)


Simmons/Hill/Maxey
Beal/Joe/FA
Green/Thybulle/FA
Bertans/FA/SRP
Embiid/Howard/Reed
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:

Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Barlow/Watford/Walker
Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1924 » by Kobblehead » Thu May 27, 2021 1:54 am

cool93 wrote:I am VERY impressed by Beal so far in this series, I think he is the answer to pretty much all our problems if we somehow manage to get him without giving up Ben.
Would this be enough to entice Wizards if Harris continues to play well in playoffs?

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Guarantee Hill's contract, sign Green for whatever exception we have.

Hill
Beal/Korkmaz
Green/Thybulle
Simmons
Embiid/Howard

I think this team would be good enough to win it all.

Ridiculous overpay. Bradley Beal cannot score off the dribble consistently.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1925 » by cool93 » Thu May 27, 2021 2:32 am

ProcessDoctor wrote:^^^I'd do it minus Maxey and the 2027 1st. Not sure where Washington will be in terms of rebuilding vs wanting to compete more after this series though.



I mean Maxey and the 2027 1st are pretty much only real valuable assets there. You can't get Beal for couple role players + couple picks that are likely to be late.
Harris has been good lately, but he is still on a bad contract.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1926 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu May 27, 2021 2:34 am

cool93 wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:^^^I'd do it minus Maxey and the 2027 1st. Not sure where Washington will be in terms of rebuilding vs wanting to compete more after this series though.



I mean Maxey and the 2027 1st are pretty much only real valuable assets there. You can't get Beal for couple role players + couple picks tthat are likely to be late.
Harris has been good lately, but he si atill on a bad contract.


That's fair. Despite how easy he makes scoring look, I just don't know if he's the star I'm willing to give up that kind of package for.
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Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
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Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1927 » by cool93 » Thu May 27, 2021 2:35 am

Kobblehead wrote:Bradley Beal cannot score off the dribble consistently.


That's just stupid. Beal plays with bunch of scrubs and he still is one of the best scorers in NBA on high efficiency. He is guarded by elite gefenders pretty much all the time in this series and still gets his 30+ on 50+ fg%
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1928 » by cool93 » Thu May 27, 2021 2:39 am

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cool93 wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:^^^I'd do it minus Maxey and the 2027 1st. Not sure where Washington will be in terms of rebuilding vs wanting to compete more after this series though.



I mean Maxey and the 2027 1st are pretty much only real valuable assets there. You can't get Beal for couple role players + couple picks tthat are likely to be late.
Harris has been good lately, but he si atill on a bad contract.


That's fair. Despite how easy he makes scoring look, I just don't know if he's the star I'm willing to give up that kind of package for.


I think he is perfect fit for Ben and Joel. He will get more easy looks than ever and he scores very efficiently on high number of attemps as is.
And that package isn't that good actually. I love Maxey, but he isn't likely to become a star, and those picks are likely not very valuable except for the latter ones.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1929 » by DCasey91 » Thu May 27, 2021 6:48 am



Don’t know what Kobblehead is talking about when it comes to scoring Beal can obviously score.

Subtract Rui/Westbrook with Embiid/Ben it’s the same result.

Problem mainly with Beal is he doesn’t provide much else besides volume scoring. Sucks defensively, not a great facilitator, doesn’t prop up others etc. but we do have all those bases covered
pretty much. I mean your not getting much better then Beal for a scorer imo. We do need a 25+ppg scorer hence why Beal is looked at. It gives us a sorely needed outside threat.

Question then becomes would you take a high enough volume scorer over a two way wing or a 20+ppg scorer with less usage and setup time?

Or just soak all the scoring between the duo and have maxed out supporting pieces around them.

Reason I’m all for keeping Ben is because I don’t see a player available yet worth it for the subtracting/addition deal.

Embiid/Beal/Ben
Embiid/CJ/Ben
Embiid/Lavine/Ben

Seems to fit well with all three imo.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1930 » by Wilfried » Thu May 27, 2021 7:58 am

I feel Beal is a bit overrated but also in price. I would love to upgrade our SG position without giving up our big 3, Mattise and Maxey.

I feel a package of a re-signed Danny Green, George Hill, Seth Curry, Shake Milton and our 2021 pick and maybe another one would be very interesting to a team that has a player that wants out.

I'm looking at CJ McColumn or (lesser valued) Buddy Hield who can shoot and score with the best of them.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1931 » by Kobblehead » Thu May 27, 2021 12:18 pm

DCasey91 wrote:Don’t know what Kobblehead is talking about when it comes to scoring Beal can obviously score.

44.8% assisted inside the arc? He's not a good creator, he's just not. And his price is astronomically high given his inflated, bloated scoring production. No way you pay a superstar price for a guy who can't get the job done on the ball. That's a massive overpay for an overrated guy who isn't a great scorer.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1932 » by 76ciology » Thu May 27, 2021 1:05 pm

If you remove personal relationships.

I think Ben for Paul George would be a good trade for both teams.

Sixers needs a perimeter scorer while Clips got someone who can get everyone involve. Kawhi and Ben could be like Jordan in Pippen in terms of role not in talent.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1933 » by Kobblehead » Thu May 27, 2021 1:41 pm

Agreed. Paul George is everything you'd want, in theory, in a #1 option. It's a shame he's not a get it guy.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1934 » by the_process » Thu May 27, 2021 5:21 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Agreed. Paul George is everything you'd want, in theory, in a #1 option. It's a shame he's not a get it guy.


Indy Paul George before the injury seemed to be that guy.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1935 » by the_process » Thu May 27, 2021 5:26 pm

cool93 wrote:I am VERY impressed by Beal so far in this series, I think he is the answer to pretty much all our problems if we somehow manage to get him without giving up Ben.
Would this be enough to entice Wizards if Harris continues to play well in playoffs?

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Guarantee Hill's contract, sign Green for whatever exception we have.

Hill
Beal/Korkmaz
Green/Thybulle
Simmons
Embiid/Howard

I think this team would be good enough to win it all.


Take Maxey out, send Tobias to a 3rd team for more assets to send to WSH.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1936 » by cool93 » Thu May 27, 2021 7:48 pm

76ciology wrote:If you remove personal relationships.

I think Ben for Paul George would be a good trade for both teams.

Sixers needs a perimeter scorer while Clips got someone who can get everyone involve. Kawhi and Ben could be like Jordan in Pippen in terms of role not in talent.


That's horrible.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1937 » by cool93 » Thu May 27, 2021 7:49 pm

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cool93 wrote:I am VERY impressed by Beal so far in this series, I think he is the answer to pretty much all our problems if we somehow manage to get him without giving up Ben.
Would this be enough to entice Wizards if Harris continues to play well in playoffs?

Spoiler:
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Guarantee Hill's contract, sign Green for whatever exception we have.

Hill
Beal/Korkmaz
Green/Thybulle
Simmons
Embiid/Howard

I think this team would be good enough to win it all.


Take Maxey out, send Tobias to a 3rd team for more assets to send to WSH.


I think it would be pretty hard to find a team willing to give up valuable assets for Tobias. He is still(and will be) quite overpaid.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1938 » by JRoy » Thu May 27, 2021 8:54 pm

Wilfried wrote:I feel Beal is a bit overrated but also in price. I would love to upgrade our SG position without giving up our big 3, Mattise and Maxey.

I feel a package of a re-signed Danny Green, George Hill, Seth Curry, Shake Milton and our 2021 pick and maybe another one would be very interesting to a team that has a player that wants out.

I'm looking at CJ McColumn or (lesser valued) Buddy Hield who can shoot and score with the best of them.


I am not a CJ fan but that package won’t entice POR
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1939 » by Stanford » Thu May 27, 2021 9:13 pm

JRoy wrote:
Wilfried wrote:I feel Beal is a bit overrated but also in price. I would love to upgrade our SG position without giving up our big 3, Mattise and Maxey.

I feel a package of a re-signed Danny Green, George Hill, Seth Curry, Shake Milton and our 2021 pick and maybe another one would be very interesting to a team that has a player that wants out.

I'm looking at CJ McColumn or (lesser valued) Buddy Hield who can shoot and score with the best of them.


I am not a CJ fan but that package won’t entice POR


If Blazers fans were in agreement that CJ should be traded, what would they be looking for in return? Not talking about from Philly, but in general.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1940 » by JRoy » Thu May 27, 2021 10:49 pm

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JRoy wrote:
Wilfried wrote:I feel Beal is a bit overrated but also in price. I would love to upgrade our SG position without giving up our big 3, Mattise and Maxey.

I feel a package of a re-signed Danny Green, George Hill, Seth Curry, Shake Milton and our 2021 pick and maybe another one would be very interesting to a team that has a player that wants out.

I'm looking at CJ McColumn or (lesser valued) Buddy Hield who can shoot and score with the best of them.


I am not a CJ fan but that package won’t entice POR


If Blazers fans were in agreement that CJ should be traded, what would they be looking for in return? Not talking about from Philly, but in general.


Opinions vary.

I’d rather combine him with assets for a two way wing.
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