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Post#321 » by Prokorov » Sat May 29, 2021 3:58 am

DarkXaero wrote:Marcus Smart, a 33% 3pt shooter for the season is shooting 54% from 3 against us this series. Evan Fournier is shooting 62.5% from 3 this series. I feel like this **** only happens to us...


Enormous over reaction to those guys driving the ball, when they both suck at driving the ball. Play them to drive, they will throw up garbage or kick out off balanced more often then not. If they catch and shoot a corner/wing three off someone else drive fine, but they hit a ton of threes on the ball with our guys being overly concerned with them driving.
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Post#322 » by DarkXaero » Sat May 29, 2021 3:58 am

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Shark wrote:Kyrie's going to have to step up next game. And we need at least one role player to be useful out there. Would also be great if Nash were faster in making adjustments both in so far as how we're defending as well as his rotations.


Kyrie doesnt need to do anything different. He played a great game (as far as the shots he took, decisions, his effort, etc..). he missed a ton of shots and was inefficient, but there is no need for him to try and play hero when Durant/Harden can not be guarded by fournier/kemba. Kyrie taking Marcus smart out of the play and picking his spots is the right way to go. he just needs to hit shots. he took all good shots tonight with the exception of maybe 1 long three.
I agree with this. I think too much is being made of Kyrie's "effort" or the way he looked tonight, when I thought that he played the right way most of the night, it's just that he didn't hit his shots. You can chalk that down to nerves/pressure or whatever, but he took his shots within the flow of the offense tonight and they were good shots.
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Post#323 » by Prokorov » Sat May 29, 2021 4:12 am

Tatum hurt us, but the best player for the Celtics tonight was Steve Nash.

Just an absolute trash job of coaching. Look im not gonna get on him for not playing DJ/Alize even with thompson/size/offensive rebounds/2nd chance points being an issue. You wanna roll with Claxton/Blake and live with rebounding fine.

But how about you open your eyes and actually try and make an adjustment:

Tatum scored 44 points before he sent his first double team, it worked, and then we didnt see it again:
-for 48 minutes Nash let Boston set 1 screen to get Tatum on Kyrie/Harris/Brown while he was red hot
-He sent no help for 44 minutes
-He did not deny tatum the ball or instant double to force it out of his hands
-He did not have us go under screens on smart 40 feet from the hoop, he still isntant switched that
-he did not have durant figh through screens to stay on Tatum

Thompson and Grant williams combined for 42 minutes. A coach who is not an idiot forces Thompson to beat them for 30 minutes on post ups or grant williams to beat them hitting threes. Instead, Nash decided he would be ok with Tatum vs. 1-on-1 defense.

Then we have the Joe Harris thing. Harris shot 2 airballs and bricked nothing but backboard in a 4 minute stretch. maybe he was off tonight. maybe on the road with fans he struggled like most role guys do. Maybe you go with Bruce Brown to give you hustle/defense/rebounding if Harris isnt hitting shots. Maybe you go big with claxton/blake. In either event, watching Harris shoot airballs and get abused by tatum after a switch isnt a great idea.

Why is Blake Griffin only playing 25 minutes? we were a +16 with him on the floor in a game we lost. I love Claxton but he played like a rookie in his first road playoff game. You need to have some awareness there.

Stevens forced Claxton to beat him in the post 1-on-1 and Nash allowed it to continue to happen. Get the ball to durant or harden or kyrie. get claxton the ball where he can catch and finish, fine. dont bail them out by taking the ckaxton on a small post up. they went on a big run during that stretch where claxton missed 3 straight and turned one over.

-Call an effing timeout when the other team is on a run

-open your effing mouth and get on the ref when your star is knocked to the floor with no call

if this guy cost this team a title im going to lose it.
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Post#324 » by Openheimer » Sat May 29, 2021 4:12 am

They just couldn’t miss tonight and Tatum and Smart were just hitting everything. Thompson was bullying everyone on the offensive glass.

Harris, Kyrie, Claxton, Shamet and everyone not named Harden and KD picked a bad time to stink. Sometimes it’s easy to get complacent after all the smoke up you’re rear end with the media praising so they need to pick it up on the defensive end and box out
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Post#325 » by Prokorov » Sat May 29, 2021 4:15 am

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Prokorov wrote:
Shark wrote:Kyrie's going to have to step up next game. And we need at least one role player to be useful out there. Would also be great if Nash were faster in making adjustments both in so far as how we're defending as well as his rotations.


Kyrie doesnt need to do anything different. He played a great game (as far as the shots he took, decisions, his effort, etc..). he missed a ton of shots and was inefficient, but there is no need for him to try and play hero when Durant/Harden can not be guarded by fournier/kemba. Kyrie taking Marcus smart out of the play and picking his spots is the right way to go. he just needs to hit shots. he took all good shots tonight with the exception of maybe 1 long three.
I agree with this. I think too much is being made of Kyrie's "effort" or the way he looked tonight, when I thought that he played the right way most of the night, it's just that he didn't hit his shots. You can chalk that down to nerves/pressure or whatever, but he took his shots within the flow of the offense tonight and they were good shots.


Yeah, I mean boston has 1 guy who really defends at a high level. that guy is on Kyrie. they have fournier/kemba on harden and a switch gets KD on fournier/kemba. we went at that all night and KD/Harden combined for like 75 points on elite efficiency.

Kyrie went after in in transition, when harden sat, and late when we needed some threes. he shot poorly, he certainly didnt play poorly or let the crowd get to him.

Stevens was smart... trapped/doubled to try and frustrate him. they wanted to bait him into hero ball. he played his game, not the one they wanted him to.
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Post#326 » by Prokorov » Sat May 29, 2021 4:23 am

3pt_chucker wrote:The Bucks must be watching this and licking their lips cuz they will switch Gianis onto Kyrie all game.


It doesnt work with Giannis. cause you can play under and off and dare him to shoot a 3.
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Post#327 » by Prokorov » Sat May 29, 2021 4:26 am

Pablo Escobar wrote:You guys have poor perimeter and interior defense. And Nash must be smoking crack cause this switch everything defense is stupid.


Our defense is actually really good. poor rebounding and turnovers skew it. awful coaching doesnt help. Teams score on us because we give them an extra 15-20 possesions. not because we cant defend
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Post#328 » by Prokorov » Sat May 29, 2021 4:29 am

CalamityX12 wrote:Blake Griffin really has no business out there

What does he do?(tonight)


Griffin was fantastic. +16 in a game we lost by 6.
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Post#329 » by Pablo Escobar » Sat May 29, 2021 4:32 am

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Pablo Escobar wrote:You guys have poor perimeter and interior defense. And Nash must be smoking crack cause this switch everything defense is stupid.


Our defense is actually really good. poor rebounding and turnovers skew it. awful coaching doesnt help. Teams score on us because we give them an extra 15-20 possesions. not because we cant defend


I agree somewhat but having a lockdown wing would help a lot. Kd being that guy and also asking him to drop 25+ a night is asking quite a bit. Playing DJ would theoretically help but he just sucks imo lol.
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Post#330 » by Prokorov » Sat May 29, 2021 4:34 am

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Prokorov wrote:
Pablo Escobar wrote:You guys have poor perimeter and interior defense. And Nash must be smoking crack cause this switch everything defense is stupid.


Our defense is actually really good. poor rebounding and turnovers skew it. awful coaching doesnt help. Teams score on us because we give them an extra 15-20 possesions. not because we cant defend


I agree somewhat but having a lockdown wing would help a lot. Kd being that guy and also asking him to drop 25+ a night is asking quite a bit. Playing DJ would theoretically help but he just sucks imo lol.


KD is the best player in the league and thats why. its not asking much. he expends almost no effort on offense.

We have wing defense, nash chooses shooting over defense. which is fine.
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Post#331 » by Prokorov » Sat May 29, 2021 4:42 am

Nash's postgame comments are vomit enducing.

Takes 0 blame for any of his decisions. says his team didnt fight hard enough. same script, he can do no wrong, guys have to play harder.
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Post#332 » by Prokorov » Sat May 29, 2021 5:10 am

Just rewatched...

its bad. just bad. players had a solid effort. boston hit alot of tough contested shots. coaching was god awful. a good coach and we probably win this one by double digits. we did absolutely nothing to stop their momentum. We didnt make grant williams beat us. dude is sitting in the corner and we wont leave him to help on tatum. didnt force thompson to make a move and score on post ups like stevens forced claxton to. how do you not double tatum on the catch? it makes no sense. its not like he went off for 30. he had 50. get the effing ball out of his hands. especially with guys like grant williams on the floor who likely wont hurt you.

4 times they went on a 10+ -0 run before we had to call a timeout and 2 of those we never did call a timeout.

nash was already a terrible coach when he just needed to worry about players. now he needs to tame fan momentum on the road.
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Post#333 » by DarkXaero » Sat May 29, 2021 5:22 am

Prokorov wrote:Nash's postgame comments are vomit enducing.

Takes 0 blame for any of his decisions. says his team didnt fight hard enough. same script, he can do no wrong, guys have to play harder.
I mean our defense and effort were very lackadaisical tonight so I don't disagree with him. There was a clear drop off after we got off to a 19-4 start. That being said, the Nets really lost this game in the 2nd half tonight because the coaching staff failed to make the right adjustments defensively, so I do agree with you on that.
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Post#334 » by Prokorov » Sat May 29, 2021 5:31 am

DarkXaero wrote:
Prokorov wrote:Nash's postgame comments are vomit enducing.

Takes 0 blame for any of his decisions. says his team didnt fight hard enough. same script, he can do no wrong, guys have to play harder.
I mean our defense and effort were very lackadaisical tonight so I don't disagree with him. There was a clear drop off after we got off to a 19-4 start. That being said, the Nets really lost this game in the 2nd half tonight because the coaching staff failed to make the right adjustments defensively, so I do agree with you on that.


I disagree, I think it was one of our best effort of the year from an effort standpoint on D. We played our best game effort wise of this series. they hit tons of contested shots with a hand in the face. When they went on runs, we did nothing to break the momentum. We did nothing to force the ball into the hands of rookies and weak offensive players. Watch it again. We had a lapse in the 2nd quarter effort wise, but it was short. first quarter lapse had more to do with our offense missing open shots and turning it over giving them easy buckets then it did defensive effort.

We also didnt help ourselves with shamet/harris and TJ/shamet lineups with no center on the floor. Almost all their points came on contested jumpers and 2nd chance points. Tatum hit 12 contested jumpers on his own.

it was just... bad. like real bad. and then for that ahole to again deny any kind of blame for the loss.

its scary. nash could very likely cost this team a title. if fans were around all year, we may have been in the play-in.
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Post#335 » by GTR11 » Sat May 29, 2021 12:36 pm

Prokorov wrote:Tatum hurt us, but the best player for the Celtics tonight was Steve Nash.

Just an absolute trash job of coaching. Look im not gonna get on him for not playing DJ/Alize even with thompson/size/offensive rebounds/2nd chance points being an issue. You wanna roll with Claxton/Blake and live with rebounding fine.

But how about you open your eyes and actually try and make an adjustment:

Tatum scored 44 points before he sent his first double team, it worked, and then we didnt see it again:
-for 48 minutes Nash let Boston set 1 screen to get Tatum on Kyrie/Harris/Brown while he was red hot
-He sent no help for 44 minutes
-He did not deny tatum the ball or instant double to force it out of his hands
-He did not have us go under screens on smart 40 feet from the hoop, he still isntant switched that
-he did not have durant figh through screens to stay on Tatum

Thompson and Grant williams combined for 42 minutes. A coach who is not an idiot forces Thompson to beat them for 30 minutes on post ups or grant williams to beat them hitting threes. Instead, Nash decided he would be ok with Tatum vs. 1-on-1 defense.

Then we have the Joe Harris thing. Harris shot 2 airballs and bricked nothing but backboard in a 4 minute stretch. maybe he was off tonight. maybe on the road with fans he struggled like most role guys do. Maybe you go with Bruce Brown to give you hustle/defense/rebounding if Harris isnt hitting shots. Maybe you go big with claxton/blake. In either event, watching Harris shoot airballs and get abused by tatum after a switch isnt a great idea.

Why is Blake Griffin only playing 25 minutes? we were a +16 with him on the floor in a game we lost. I love Claxton but he played like a rookie in his first road playoff game. You need to have some awareness there.

Stevens forced Claxton to beat him in the post 1-on-1 and Nash allowed it to continue to happen. Get the ball to durant or harden or kyrie. get claxton the ball where he can catch and finish, fine. dont bail them out by taking the ckaxton on a small post up. they went on a big run during that stretch where claxton missed 3 straight and turned one over.

-Call an effing timeout when the other team is on a run

-open your effing mouth and get on the ref when your star is knocked to the floor with no call

if this guy cost this team a title im going to lose it.


You really believe washed up DJ and D.League guy were going to save the day.
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Post#336 » by GTR11 » Sat May 29, 2021 12:38 pm

They just wanted it more. When you play half azz bball you'll lose no matter who you play. Beside Harden and KD rest of the team didn't bring it, that simple.

This team needs azz kicking at times to get it going. Better now than vs Bucks.
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Post#337 » by MrDollarBills » Sat May 29, 2021 3:13 pm

I'm sorry but the lack of adjustments by Steve Nash killed us. You force the ball out of Tatum's hands and make the other guys beat you. Leaving Kyrie on an island versus Tatum is beyond dumb.

We aren't winning a title with this guy at the helm. He's too slow to react.
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Post#338 » by 3pt_chucker » Sat May 29, 2021 3:58 pm

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CalamityX12 wrote:Blake Griffin really has no business out there

What does he do?(tonight)


Griffin was fantastic. +16 in a game we lost by 6.


Fantastic?? There is a reason he only played 24 mins. He was a non factor on the boards and wasn't useful on defense. He was on the floor during the early 19-4 run which accounts for moat of his +/-
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Post#339 » by MrDollarBills » Sat May 29, 2021 9:53 pm

I don't see us beating Milwaukee if Steve Nash doesn't get his act together quickly.
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Post#340 » by Whiskey Slick » Sat May 29, 2021 11:02 pm

Nobody wants to say it, so I'll say it ...

Fact of the matter is, Kyrie opened his big mouth, turned a BASKETBALL SERIES (that we were kicking asses in) into a Social Justice event, obviously the media eats that sh*t up and instantly changed the narrative from the Nets waxing the Celtics to Boston is notorious for its racism (which may be true, but this was not the time or place for it), so now instead of being in a playoff series with the Celtics, we were at a BLM vs the Celtics rally, all thanks to Kyrie's big mouth, so he, OF ALL NETS, had an obligation to deliver his A-Game in Game 3. KD and Harden backed his play, BUT HE DIDN'T. He kicked that hornets nest, then played like trash.

That's why we lost. Sure there were other reasons and blaming Steve Nash is the most convenient excuse of them all, but if Kyrie had simply shut his big mouth and kept it to basketball, OR SHOWED UP, we'd be up 3-0.

What's he gonna do for his next trick, skip Game 4 for his sisters, husbands, second cousins birthday party?

All year it's been the same thing. Kyrie has his own agenda and he NEVER puts the team ahead of his agenda.

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