MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021

[ThaFranchize84]

My offseason plan for the Heat

Decline options on Dragic, Dipo, Iggy, etc. to open up cap space.

Make a run a Kawhi...

I hate to break it to you but we don't have enough space to sign Kawhi even if we decline every option and renounce every free agent we have. Kawhi's max starting salary is ~ $39 million. Even if we trade Herro, Precious, and KZ for nothing, and keep only Jimmy and Bam, we still don't have the space to sign him as a free agent unless he takes a significant discount.

Oh I know. I said make a run at him. Chances are really high that goes nowhere. Everything else I listed I feel like is the more realistic plan.


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[AirP.]

Here's a thought if Miami is going to move Butler...
A trade built around Butler for CJ McCollum, it's a trade that could help both teams.

Not seeing how that trade benefits the Heat. I can see how it benefits you as a Butler fan though.

Adding a scorer with Bam doesn't benefit the Heat? CJ is an outside shooter who averaged 23 ppg, shot 40% from 3pt range and had 4.7 assists plus he's 2 years younger then Butler. It seems like a nice small reset by getting a little younger around Bam.

I don't know what you guys think you're going to get out of Butler if Miami tries to trade him, he'll be 32 at the start of next season, the only teams that will want him will be contenders and with that, they'll try to send multiple lesser players for him and maybe a young asset or draft pick. Your FO has wasted 2 full years with Butler with the 2021 plan, congratulations.

What I actually think will happen is Oladipo, Dragic, Ariza and Dedmon are retained. I also believe Miami will do a sign and trade for someone like Lowry, L.Bell or even DeRozan. DeRozan is logical since he's been playing PF for San Antonio.

It's actually possible to see these 3 all together in Miami which would let the team compete for a championship for a couple of years and then build around Bam...

Watch on YouTube

[inspired4fr33]

Here's a thought if Miami is going to move Butler...
A trade built around Butler for CJ McCollum, it's a trade that could help both teams.

Not seeing how that trade benefits the Heat. I can see how it benefits you as a Butler fan though.

Adding a scorer with Bam doesn't benefit the Heat? CJ is an outside shooter who averaged 23 ppg, shot 40% from 3pt range and had 4.7 assists plus he's 2 years younger then Butler. It seems like a nice small reset by getting a little younger around Bam.

I don't know what you guys think you're going to get out of Butler if Miami tries to trade him, he'll be 32 at the start of next season, the only teams that will want him will be contenders and with that, they'll try to send multiple lesser players for him and maybe a young asset or draft pick. Your FO has wasted 2 full years with Butler with the 2021 plan, congratulations.

What I actually think will happen is Oladipo, Dragic, Ariza and Dedmon are retained. I also believe Miami will do a sign and trade for someone like Lowry, L.Bell or even DeRozan. DeRozan is logical since he's been playing PF for San Antonio.

It's actually possible to see these 3 all together in Miami which would let the team compete for a championship for a couple of years and then build around Bam...

Watch on YouTube

That team is garbage. Ugh I hate our options they SUCK. I dont want any of those bums and old ass players. They dont move the needle and will probably break down with injuries by the time middle of May comes around. Its pointless.

Our master plan would've secured our future Giannis really **** us by resigning. That was our whale the writing was on the wall. ESPN Breaking News: "Greek Freak to South Beach" would've been so epic.

[Slot Machine]

Here's a thought if Miami is going to move Butler...
A trade built around Butler for CJ McCollum, it's a trade that could help both teams.

Not seeing how that trade benefits the Heat. I can see how it benefits you as a Butler fan though.

Adding a scorer with Bam doesn't benefit the Heat? CJ is an outside shooter who averaged 23 ppg, shot 40% from 3pt range and had 4.7 assists plus he's 2 years younger then Butler. It seems like a nice small reset by getting a little younger around Bam.

I don't know what you guys think you're going to get out of Butler if Miami tries to trade him, he'll be 32 at the start of next season, the only teams that will want him will be contenders and with that, they'll try to send multiple lesser players for him and maybe a young asset or draft pick. Your FO has wasted 2 full years with Butler with the 2021 plan, congratulations.

What I actually think will happen is Oladipo, Dragic, Ariza and Dedmon are retained. I also believe Miami will do a sign and trade for someone like Lowry, L.Bell or even DeRozan. DeRozan is logical since he's been playing PF for San Antonio.

It's actually possible to see these 3 all together in Miami which would let the team compete for a championship for a couple of years and then build around Bam...

Watch on YouTube

CJ + Bam takes this team to the 12th seed.

Lowry, Derozan, and Butler competing for a championship - what year is this? If that’s the best we can do, Butler should be sent somewhere he can actually compete and that will get us a haul to kickstart a rebuild.

[AirP.]

That team is garbage. Ugh I hate our options they SUCK. I dont want any of those bums and old ass players. They dont move the needle and will probably break down with injuries by the time middle of May comes around. Its pointless.

Our master plan would've secured our future Giannis really **** us by resigning. That was our whale the writing was on the wall. ESPN Breaking News: "Greek Freak to South Beach" would've been so epic.

Yes, any team would be happy to have Giannis join them.

The issue is... Miami more then likely will have 0 good 1st round picks in the next 3 years so why not compete, get your young players some experience and have them learn the right way of playing from vets? Then in 3 or so years it's Bam and whoever else you can get team and have assets to move to add more. Maybe next time you can acquire a guy like CP3 for cheap or have a shot at getting a guy like James Harden this franchise actually does what it needs to add those higher level talents instead of just hope cap space will lure a high level player to the team.

[AirP.]

Spoiler:

Not seeing how that trade benefits the Heat. I can see how it benefits you as a Butler fan though.

Adding a scorer with Bam doesn't benefit the Heat? CJ is an outside shooter who averaged 23 ppg, shot 40% from 3pt range and had 4.7 assists plus he's 2 years younger then Butler. It seems like a nice small reset by getting a little younger around Bam.

I don't know what you guys think you're going to get out of Butler if Miami tries to trade him, he'll be 32 at the start of next season, the only teams that will want him will be contenders and with that, they'll try to send multiple lesser players for him and maybe a young asset or draft pick. Your FO has wasted 2 full years with Butler with the 2021 plan, congratulations.

What I actually think will happen is Oladipo, Dragic, Ariza and Dedmon are retained. I also believe Miami will do a sign and trade for someone like Lowry, L.Bell or even DeRozan. DeRozan is logical since he's been playing PF for San Antonio.

It's actually possible to see these 3 all together in Miami which would let the team compete for a championship for a couple of years and then build around Bam...

Watch on YouTube

CJ + Bam takes this team to the 12th seed.

Lowry, Derozan, and Butler competing for a championship - what year is this? If that’s the best we can do, Butler should be sent somewhere he can actually compete and that will get us a haul to kickstart a rebuild.

Who in the hell is giving a "haul" for Butler? Philly got J.Richardson for him. Minnesota got Saric, Covington and a 2nd for him but now that he's near the end of his prime, almost 32 years old, Miami is going to get a haul for him? I really don't think so. I'm a huge Butler fan but I'm also realistic on what he can fetch. I could see Thibodeau and the Knicks asking if he's available, not sure what they'd give other then a 1st and someone like Knox or Mitchell, maybe both.

[contract]

Here's a thought if Miami is going to move Butler...
A trade built around Butler for CJ McCollum, it's a trade that could help both teams.

Not seeing how that trade benefits the Heat. I can see how it benefits you as a Butler fan though.

Adding a scorer with Bam doesn't benefit the Heat? CJ is an outside shooter who averaged 23 ppg, shot 40% from 3pt range and had 4.7 assists plus he's 2 years younger then Butler. It seems like a nice small reset by getting a little younger around Bam.

I don't know what you guys think you're going to get out of Butler if Miami tries to trade him, he'll be 32 at the start of next season, the only teams that will want him will be contenders and with that, they'll try to send multiple lesser players for him and maybe a young asset or draft pick. Your FO has wasted 2 full years with Butler with the 2021 plan, congratulations.

What I actually think will happen is Oladipo, Dragic, Ariza and Dedmon are retained. I also believe Miami will do a sign and trade for someone like Lowry, L.Bell or even DeRozan. DeRozan is logical since he's been playing PF for San Antonio.

It's actually possible to see these 3 all together in Miami which would let the team compete for a championship for a couple of years and then build around Bam...

Watch on YouTube

DeRozan is Butler sized and is about as bad a 3 point shooter. I'd rather sign 104 year old Melo to play PF.

[HeatIn5]

Lowry
Herro
Butler
Derozan
Bam

Is smaller than we are now

Lonzo
Herro
Butler
Lauri
Bam

Is interesting



I don’t See how we make any of this happen though. We ****ed up a balked to move Nunn when he had any value and Duncan is about to go from great bargain to overpaid

[Slot Machine]

Spoiler:

Adding a scorer with Bam doesn't benefit the Heat? CJ is an outside shooter who averaged 23 ppg, shot 40% from 3pt range and had 4.7 assists plus he's 2 years younger then Butler. It seems like a nice small reset by getting a little younger around Bam.

I don't know what you guys think you're going to get out of Butler if Miami tries to trade him, he'll be 32 at the start of next season, the only teams that will want him will be contenders and with that, they'll try to send multiple lesser players for him and maybe a young asset or draft pick. Your FO has wasted 2 full years with Butler with the 2021 plan, congratulations.

What I actually think will happen is Oladipo, Dragic, Ariza and Dedmon are retained. I also believe Miami will do a sign and trade for someone like Lowry, L.Bell or even DeRozan. DeRozan is logical since he's been playing PF for San Antonio.

It's actually possible to see these 3 all together in Miami which would let the team compete for a championship for a couple of years and then build around Bam...

Watch on YouTube

CJ + Bam takes this team to the 12th seed.

Lowry, Derozan, and Butler competing for a championship - what year is this? If that’s the best we can do, Butler should be sent somewhere he can actually compete and that will get us a haul to kickstart a rebuild.

Who in the hell is giving a "haul" for Butler? Philly got J.Richardson for him. Minnesota got Saric, Covington and a 2nd for him but now that he's near the end of his prime, almost 32 years old, Miami is going to get a haul for him? I really don't think so. I'm a huge Butler fan but I'm also realistic on what he can fetch. I could see Thibodeau and the Knicks asking if he's available, not sure what they'd give other then a 1st and someone like Knox or Mitchell, maybe both.

Aside from the fact that J-Rich went over in a S&T where Jimmy was demanding to be sent here, young players and/or picks is certainly preferable to getting a guy like CJ here. CJ for Butler makes sense only in your eyes.

If the move is to trade Butler, it’s for a future prospect and/or picks, not a vastly inferior win now player.

[Wiltside]

I expect us to be aggressive. I could excuse running it back off a Finals run while keeping flexibility for 2021 hypotheticals. I can’t cop another stagnant year of minimal offseason moves to get better.

[HIF]

First round exit gives the guys a nice long break to rest and recover. It was the plan all along.

[vanhowell]

We will definitely have a major overhaul this offseason and will have a new team next season. Come back stronger Miami Heat!!

In Riley we trust!!

[BIRDMAN BIRDMAN]

Cut Gabe "Mr. questionable on the nightly injury report" Vincent and KZ "I can't hit open shots" Scrubpala. Then bring back Chalmers and Beasley (the original rook1/rook2) - heck bring back Winnie.

Put Precious in the gleague for 1-2 seasons since he raw as ****, same with the 7 guy

But yeah seriously, I cant believe it's the off-season again lol. Just rest and bounce back. Riles ain't going out like this guys (and Haslem? lol)

[DayofMourning]

Sign Beasley, Chalmers, Winslow, Rich, James Johnson, and Whiteside. It's the only answer to our first round exit.

[Wiltside]

Sign Beasley and Winslow

Fixed DoM.

For real though, Beasley would've been better than running out the corpses of Trevor Ariza and Andre Igoudala idc idc idc

[DayofMourning]

Sign Beasley and Winslow

Fixed DoM.

For real though, Beasley would've been better than running out the corpses of Trevor Ariza and Andre Igoudala idc idc idc

I'd prefer to have a 7 footer on the court the entire game. Not shooting threes either.

[Wiltside]

Saw this mentioned in the Trade forum - wonder what it would take to shake Collin Sexton from Cleveland. I know somewhere Bish's ears just pricked up lol.

Hear me out though - he's already a legit scoring option. Say what you want about the scrubby Cavs, but the guy still put up 24/3/4 on 47.5% FG. 1.6 treys on 4.4 attempts (37.5% 3fg) and 81.5% FT (6.4 attempts). Averages a steal a game, but also is a supreme fiesty chivato.

Cavs certainly don't seem wedded to him, and given they'll likely have another high pick and he's coming up for extension kinda talk, I could see a trade.

Wild thoughts...Sexton and Love for Herro, Igoudala, Dragic and Achiuwa? Obviously Iggy and Gogi won't be long for the roster, so it's really about getting back rookie salaries that fit better.

Sexton
Robinson
Butler
Love
Adebayo

Love would expire in 2023, which at present is the same offszn as Jimmy if he took up his PO (it's possible Jimmy negotiates an extension though...but if not, that's the reload offszn). Mind you, I'm still trying to work out if Love can actually play anymore or not. Is it a case of the Blake Griffin's (e.g. guy doesn't want to be there anymore and gives minimal effort), or is he just old af and broken down?

[abark]

Spoiler:

Adding a scorer with Bam doesn't benefit the Heat? CJ is an outside shooter who averaged 23 ppg, shot 40% from 3pt range and had 4.7 assists plus he's 2 years younger then Butler. It seems like a nice small reset by getting a little younger around Bam.

I don't know what you guys think you're going to get out of Butler if Miami tries to trade him, he'll be 32 at the start of next season, the only teams that will want him will be contenders and with that, they'll try to send multiple lesser players for him and maybe a young asset or draft pick. Your FO has wasted 2 full years with Butler with the 2021 plan, congratulations.

What I actually think will happen is Oladipo, Dragic, Ariza and Dedmon are retained. I also believe Miami will do a sign and trade for someone like Lowry, L.Bell or even DeRozan. DeRozan is logical since he's been playing PF for San Antonio.

It's actually possible to see these 3 all together in Miami which would let the team compete for a championship for a couple of years and then build around Bam...

Watch on YouTube

CJ + Bam takes this team to the 12th seed.

Lowry, Derozan, and Butler competing for a championship - what year is this? If that’s the best we can do, Butler should be sent somewhere he can actually compete and that will get us a haul to kickstart a rebuild.

Who in the hell is giving a "haul" for Butler? Philly got J.Richardson for him. Minnesota got Saric, Covington and a 2nd for him but now that he's near the end of his prime, almost 32 years old, Miami is going to get a haul for him? I really don't think so. I'm a huge Butler fan but I'm also realistic on what he can fetch. I could see Thibodeau and the Knicks asking if he's available, not sure what they'd give other then a 1st and someone like Knox or Mitchell, maybe both.

Sign and trades are different. The team losing a star is in a situation where they are desperate not to lose their guy for nothing.

Kevin Durant netted Golden State D'Angelo Russell in a sign-and-trade. GS was even the one that had to give up a heavily protected 1st rounder in the deal.

[AirP.]

Spoiler:

CJ + Bam takes this team to the 12th seed.

Lowry, Derozan, and Butler competing for a championship - what year is this? If that’s the best we can do, Butler should be sent somewhere he can actually compete and that will get us a haul to kickstart a rebuild.

Who in the hell is giving a "haul" for Butler? Philly got J.Richardson for him. Minnesota got Saric, Covington and a 2nd for him but now that he's near the end of his prime, almost 32 years old, Miami is going to get a haul for him? I really don't think so. I'm a huge Butler fan but I'm also realistic on what he can fetch. I could see Thibodeau and the Knicks asking if he's available, not sure what they'd give other then a 1st and someone like Knox or Mitchell, maybe both.

Sign and trades are different. The team losing a star is in a situation where they are desperate not to lose their guy for nothing.

Kevin Durant netted Golden State D'Angelo Russell in a sign-and-trade. GS was even the one that had to give up a heavily protected 1st rounder in the deal.

Minnesota moved Butler with 1 year left, it's the same thing as Miami's situation since Butler has a player option after this next season. He played that season out for Philly, they were a contender, were beat in 7 by the eventual champs and still left.

I don't think Butler's going to be moved, I think he'll be extended this year or next and with the 2021 plan a bust the organization will go back to business as usually and bring in some real help for Butler and Bam. There's really very little chance Miami can add anything to be better then the top talent with Brooklyn's, Milwaukee's or even Philly's top players but they can find players to compete and try to out work them.

[TroubleS0me]

Kawhi would be nice
he helped us in '13 finals by missing that free throw game 6