2020-21 NBA Season Discussion

falcolombardi · Post #2301 » by **falcolombardi** » Sun May 30, 2021 8:56 pm

not a big fan of how static lebron is in halfcourt right now

i get he is 36 amd legs may be shot from the injury but i would prefer to have him post up instead and try to collapse the defense

70sFan · Post #2302 » by **70sFan** » Sun May 30, 2021 9:17 pm

As I said in different thread months ago - Gasol without one arm would be still better than Drummond.

eminence · Post #2303 » by **eminence** » Sun May 30, 2021 9:38 pm

Super happy to see the Suns bounce back (hopefully) to get back into the series. Hope AD gets right.

70sFan · Post #2304 » by **70sFan** » Sun May 30, 2021 10:03 pm

Big win for Suns, Lakers were terrible today. I see no reason why Drummond gets more time than Gasol though, he's been one of the few bright spots in this game.

By the way, people gets overly protective nowadays. Crowder's foul on James in the 4th was typical basketball play, yet some people act like it was dirty...

TheGOATRises007 · Post #2305 » by **TheGOATRises007** » Sun May 30, 2021 10:56 pm

70sFan wrote:Big win for Suns, Lakers were terrible today. I see no reason why Drummond gets more time than Gasol though, he's been one of the few bright spots in this game.

By the way, people gets overly protective nowadays. Crowder's foul on James in the 4th was typical basketball play, yet some people act like it was dirty...

You should have said this in the Lebron thread :lol:

falcolombardi · Post #2306 » by **falcolombardi** » Sun May 30, 2021 11:17 pm

i hope vogel doesnt decide that drummond should play davis minutes in game 5

play gasol started minutes and give harrel some time instead

Dupp · Post #2307 » by **Dupp** » Mon May 31, 2021 12:05 am

Gasol kuz lebron should be the starting front courts lakers. They could never really get rolling this season, injuries would be a fitting way to end it.

Dr Positivity · Post #2308 » by **Dr Positivity** » Mon May 31, 2021 12:20 am

It's weird that Holiday/Davis wasn't a more successful combination.

Post #2309 » by **PaulieWal** » Mon May 31, 2021 4:17 am

PaulieWal wrote:Hate to be that guy and since so many including me are enjoying seeing the Clippers suffer, but I still think they win this series. On paper they do have more talent, and I think they will make more defensive adjustments including making Geoege or Leonard just guard 1 on 1 and not switch on anything.

Hate to be right for this one. I feel Clippers got the series now :evil:

mikejames23 · Post #2310 » by **mikejames23** » Mon May 31, 2021 4:30 am

I really dig how some fan pointed to the Zubac mistake and Lue took forever to figure it out. NBA coaches EXPOSED.

I think the Mavs have a little more fight in them. Curious to see what adjustments they make next. Kawhi has been absurd as usual with his 70+ TS%.

MartinToVaught · Post #2311 » by **MartinToVaught** » Mon May 31, 2021 4:33 am

It certainly helps that their role players stopped shooting like Curry, Klay and Ray Allen for the first time all series.

I won't think we have the series until the clock strikes 0:00 on our fourth win, but things are looking up. Crazy to think this team was drawing dead and probably on their way to an offseason firesale as recently as the first quarter of Game 3.

Jaivl · Post #2312 » by **Jaivl** » Mon May 31, 2021 6:36 am

Eddy_JukeZ wrote:
70sFan wrote:Big win for Suns, Lakers were terrible today. I see no reason why Drummond gets more time than Gasol though, he's been one of the few bright spots in this game.

By the way, people gets overly protective nowadays. Crowder's foul on James in the 4th was typical basketball play, yet some people act like it was dirty...

You should have said this in the Lebron thread

On the General Board's embassy here? Hah, you try it.

HeartBreakKid · Post #2313 » by **HeartBreakKid** » Mon May 31, 2021 6:52 am

Jaivl wrote:
Eddy_JukeZ wrote:
70sFan wrote:Big win for Suns, Lakers were terrible today. I see no reason why Drummond gets more time than Gasol though, he's been one of the few bright spots in this game.

By the way, people gets overly protective nowadays. Crowder's foul on James in the 4th was typical basketball play, yet some people act like it was dirty...

You should have said this in the Lebron thread

On the General Board's embassy here? Hah, you try it.

I'm not sure why it took so long but a couple weeks ago I actively realized that's exactly what that thread is here. It was a huge epiphany.

70sFan · Post #2314 » by **70sFan** » Mon May 31, 2021 7:41 am

How would you defend Nets if you were Bucks? Most people want to see Giannis at center and no Lopez minutes, but I wonder if that's the best option. Switch everything isn't a good choice against Nets and Bucks need rim protection against Harden.

Again, I'm not sure. Maybe drop coverage isn't the worst idea? Maybe it is... What do you think?

KTM_2813 · Post #2315 » by **KTM_2813** » Mon May 31, 2021 1:28 pm

HeartBreakKid wrote:
Jaivl wrote:
Eddy_JukeZ wrote:
You should have said this in the Lebron thread

On the General Board's embassy here? Hah, you try it.

I'm not sure why it took so long but a couple weeks ago I actively realized that's exactly what that thread is here. It was a huge epiphany.

I used to post there very often, but stopped once it got completely out of control. My epiphany was when they were roasting Zach Lowe for being anti-LeBron, and someone said something along the lines of, "Because I am extremely biased in favor of LeBron, I am able to more clearly discern when people are anti-LeBron."

Yes, because extreme bias inside an echo chamber always works out well... :lol:

Post #2316 » by **Texas Chuck** » Mon May 31, 2021 4:44 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:It's weird that Holiday/Davis wasn't a more successful combination.

It really isn't. You can stack up all the 2nd options you want and there is going to be a cap on what they can achieve. Move them into their correct roles and their value increases.

It's more odd to me that there are still those who think AD is suited to be the best player on a contending team. He's just not that guy. Clearly one of the most talented #2's in the world, but just as clearly a #2.

Peregrine01 · Post #2317 » by **Peregrine01** » Mon May 31, 2021 4:54 pm

70sFan wrote:How would you defend Nets if you were Bucks? Most people want to see Giannis at center and no Lopez minutes, but I wonder if that's the best option. Switch everything isn't a good choice against Nets and Bucks need rim protection against Harden.

Again, I'm not sure. Maybe drop coverage isn't the worst idea? Maybe it is... What do you think?

I'd do what the Rockets did to Golden State. Try to draw them into playing isolation. They're three of the best players in isolation but there's still only one ball.

Dr Positivity · Post #2318 » by **Dr Positivity** » Mon May 31, 2021 5:01 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:It's weird that Holiday/Davis wasn't a more successful combination.

It really isn't. You can stack up all the 2nd options you want and there is going to be a cap on what they can achieve. Move them into their correct roles and their value increases.

It's more odd to me that there are still those who think AD is suited to be the best player on a contending team. He's just not that guy. Clearly one of the most talented #2's in the world, but just as clearly a #2.

I don't think they were winning the title as the 2 best guys but when you compare them to combos like say: Jokic/Murray, Giannis/Middleton, Lillard/McCollum, Lowry/Derozan, etc., there is no reason why Holiday and Davis couldn't have ripped off a series of 50 W 2nd round pretender type teams instead of playing like a 35 W team most of the time outside of one year. I think Gentry was the worst coach in the league.

NinjaSheppard · Post #2319 » by **NinjaSheppard** » Mon May 31, 2021 5:02 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:It's weird that Holiday/Davis wasn't a more successful combination.

I mean a lot of the defensive value those guys provide disappears when ETuwan Moore is your starting Small Forward. Jrue is an unbelievable defender but with the Pelicans he was often guarding the other teams 3s because the Pels had no one else who could do it.

Combine that with the injuries (top of the league in games missed year in year out) and the fact that Davis refused to play center so the Pels had to run a jabroni at that position and it makes sense.

NinjaSheppard · Post #2320 » by **NinjaSheppard** » Mon May 31, 2021 5:09 pm

Their window also wasn't that long

2013-14- Jrue goes down with a foot injury and Davis is still in his second year
2014-15- Jrue's foot still bothers him he misses half the year and is on a minutes restriction Pelicans go 45-37 and make the playoffs. Demps fires Monty Williams which proves to be a disaster
2015-16 Jrue is on a minutes restriction most of the year because of his foot, the entire rotation goes down to the point that Nate Robinson and Kendrick Perkins are playing minutes.

that's three years derailed with Jrue's injuries.

2016-17- Jrue misses the first couple months of the season because his wife has a brain tumor and is pregnant. Pelicans start off terribly.
2017-18 Team wins a playoff round with those two guys before losing to the KD/Steph Warriors.
2018-19 Davis signs with Klutch and has a foot out the door. He also gets hurt a bunch at the beginning and it derails the Pelicans season.

They didn't have much support but that window was also a lot shorter than people would think because of injuries.