Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go

[BRUNiNHO91]

We need size, shooting and length.

I like the idea of Kemba for Horford. Maybe Kemba for Porzingis if Dallas bites. The player we draft should be a guy like Jaren Jackson, Obi Toppin or Thybulle. Get rid of the midgets on tbe team.. Smallest guy going into next year should be Pritchard.

Btw, we had Bane and Thybulle and traded both guys. Both would be terrific for us..bet Ainge wishes he had a re do on that.

The saving grace for him is Brown is a stud and Tatum has literally proved he can outplay Kevin **** Durant. That's pretty huge and with those two guys on board, we shouldn't struggle too much to build a really competitive top 3 seed in the East if being competitive is really the direction we choose to go all in on. Just have to be more aggressive making moves.

I’m not sure Tatum has proven he can outplay Durant given that Durant is doing anything he wants with minimal expense of effort. The fact that Tatum has put himself in that conversation already is amazing no doubt. Smart, Brown, Tatum are home developed talents that are the bedrock of a contender but the time for action is now. This team can’t spin its wheels in limbo between a rebuild and trying to contend anymore. It’s time to go all in this off season. Every move should be to make this team capable of competing with Bucks and Sixers and to have enough talent that title pretenders like the Nets don’t overwhelm them.

Well everything is a lot easier for Durant since we have to play him straight up and stay true to the shooters and two other super stars.. Meanwhile he gets 2 guys sagging off Romeo Langford and Grant Williams for 25 minutes and backing him on any Tatum drive. Even then, the last two games Tatum played him punch for punch, which is remarkable.

I totally agree woth the rest. Time to go out there and get snipers. Get vets, get a deep bench and give Tatum a chance to compete. The clock is ticking and if we don't at least get some finals trips in the next few years this dude is going to leave us..

[Bohemian]

I wonder if Danny or the ownership will finally admit they have failed considerably to improve our team the last two years.

Somebody should step down, Danny or someone else. It happens in all teams when people fail to achieve the franchise´s goals and it´s not time to point the finger at the coach. This goes beyond Brad (who wasn´t good either).

[SLCceltic]

DA will have this team ready to contend after this offseason ! Book it !! some of his guys let him down, he always learns from his mistakes

[Jakeopp]

DA will have this team ready to contend after this offseason ! Book it !! some of his guys let him down, he always learns from his mistakes

Highly unlikely with Kemba's contract dragging us down + no bench. Nobody is bailing us out of that deal. Can't fix the bench with his contract on the books + no tradeable assets of value.

Feels like we're screwed for the next few seasons, possibly longer if Nesmith and Langford don't develop and RWilliams continues to struggle with injuries.

[JediMasterRevan]

DA will have this team ready to contend after this offseason ! Book it !! some of his guys let him down, he always learns from his mistakes

Highly unlikely with Kemba's contract dragging us down + no bench. Nobody is bailing us out of that deal. Can't fix the bench with his contract on the books + no tradeable assets of value.

Feels like we're screwed for the next few seasons, possibly longer if Nesmith and Langford don't develop and RWilliams continues to struggle with injuries.

I disagree
Can move kemba to the bench to start, that improves it if no other changes made. Then just get healthy
Kemba
Romeo
Nesmith
Parker
Thompson

Also a deal with clippers helps ALOT
Beverly and KEnnard for Kemba


Also FIRE AINGE!
Promote Zarren
Hire Kenny Smith as assistant GM
Hire Garnett as an assistant coach.

[Red2]

Danny thought he could build a championship team without becoming a perennial lottery team. I.e, “ rebuild on the fly”. He almost pulled it off but some bad luck and bad moves killed it. The better course as we now know would have been to suck and get more high draft picks. Those years where brad overachieved with less talent actually hurt our development.

[GoGreen]

I want a GM that knows how to build a team through the draft and isn't always looking for that big fish. I mean, if the deal is there? Ok. But I don't want to have to count on that. With all these picks Danny has had, this team should have a capable starting 5. Or, at least, more than just 2 guys (the Jays) in the starting lineup we can realistically count on moving forward. This terrible roster is the end result of stockpiled assets. Yuck.

[ParticleMan]

Danny thought he could build a championship team without becoming a perennial lottery team. I.e, “ rebuild on the fly”. He almost pulled it off but some bad luck and bad moves killed it. The better course as we now know would have been to suck and get more high draft picks. Those years where brad overachieved with less talent actually hurt our development.

We're not done, we're just getting started. Our superstar Tatum is 23. His sidekick Brown is 25. Both are under contrast for 3+ years. Ainge had a bad year last year, no doubt, really a bad last several years at least by his standards. But we're pretty well set up. Everyone talked about how we needed to tank and get high picks and groom them into allstars/superstars. Ainge did that, he just outsourced the tank part.

The hard part is done. Now we just need to fill the gaps. IT failed, Kyrie failed, Horford left, Hayward failed, and none of the picks have stepped up yet. Not good for Ainge, but there's a long ways to go in this game.

[cloverleaf]

Danny thought he could build a championship team without becoming a perennial lottery team. I.e, “ rebuild on the fly”. He almost pulled it off but some bad luck and bad moves killed it. The better course as we now know would have been to suck and get more high draft picks. Those years where brad overachieved with less talent actually hurt our development.

Danny didn't think that--he was specifically charged by Wyc to do that. It has been his assignment since the KG era. Had Crowder not taken out Gordon, they might have got there.

[nic4747]

The only move I can fault Danny for a signing Kemba. I don’t know if it was a knee jerk reaction to losing Kyrie but you just can’t pay max money to a undersized point guard with an injury history and no playoff experience.

I think the no playoff experience is the key part. The next time we sign someone, I hope it’s on a proven commodity who has been in a deep playoff run and knows how to win.

[moonie_mcgee]

Danny thought he could build a championship team without becoming a perennial lottery team. I.e, “ rebuild on the fly”. He almost pulled it off but some bad luck and bad moves killed it. The better course as we now know would have been to suck and get more high draft picks. Those years where brad overachieved with less talent actually hurt our development.

We're not done, we're just getting started. Our superstar Tatum is 23. His sidekick Brown is 25. Both are under contrast for 3+ years. Ainge had a bad year last year, no doubt, really a bad last several years at least by his standards. But we're pretty well set up. Everyone talked about how we needed to tank and get high picks and groom them into allstars/superstars. Ainge did that, he just outsourced the tank part.

The hard part is done. Now we just need to fill the gaps. IT failed, Kyrie failed, Horford left, Hayward failed, and none of the picks have stepped up yet. Not good for Ainge, but there's a long ways to go in this game.

That's optimistic particle. He seems to have boxed himself into a corner. The in season move to trade Theis didn't really gain anything. Kornet and Wagner gets were non factors. We let a FA point go for nothing. Fournier is now on the clock and he's not starter material. Our draftees in Romeo and Aaron saw limited time and were not really PO ready. All the while players are falling apart at the seams. To be honest I don't think he has a plan and he's poorly reacting to every situation.

[moonie_mcgee]

Can someone tell me how we got Kornet and not Gafford in the Bos DC Chi trade. A big like Gafford is exactly what we needed. Seems like Ainge doesnt place much value on the frontcourt.

[ddb]

If he stays, he needs to pick a path.

Either win now or tank and get rid of everybody besides JT and JB. Dude is half assing a win now mode while half assing a youth movement.

THIS 100%! Danny has been playing the patience game for years now. It's paid off in the form of JT/JB, but it's now time to get aggressive in building a power house around JT.

[JediMasterRevan]

If he stays, he needs to pick a path.

Either win now or tank and get rid of everybody besides JT and JB. Dude is half assing a win now mode while half assing a youth movement.

THIS 100%! Danny has been playing the patience game for years now. It's paid off in the form of JT/JB, but it's now time to get aggressive in building a power house around JT.

Would you trade Brown for Wiggins, Wiseman, Minny pick and GSW Pick?

[playa-hater]

If he stays, he needs to pick a path.

Either win now or tank and get rid of everybody besides JT and JB. Dude is half assing a win now mode while half assing a youth movement.

THIS 100%! Danny has been playing the patience game for years now. It's paid off in the form of JT/JB, but it's now time to get aggressive in building a power house around JT.

Would you trade Brown for Wiggins, Wiseman, Minny pick and GSW Pick?

yes for me..

[ddb]

If he stays, he needs to pick a path.

Either win now or tank and get rid of everybody besides JT and JB. Dude is half assing a win now mode while half assing a youth movement.

THIS 100%! Danny has been playing the patience game for years now. It's paid off in the form of JT/JB, but it's now time to get aggressive in building a power house around JT.

Would you trade Brown for Wiggins, Wiseman, Minny pick and GSW Pick?

Yes. And then I'd flip that Minny pick (#4 or 5 perhaps), Timelord, Kemba, GSW pick, C's Pick and future picks to Washington for Beal, or to Portland for Dame.

Smart-Beal-Tatum-Wiggins-Wiseman OR Dame-Smart-Tatum-Wiggins-Wiseman is intriguing. I think Wiseman is going to be a beast

[BK_2020]

Why wouldn't GSW just trade for Beal or Dame themselves?

[JediMasterRevan]

THIS 100%! Danny has been playing the patience game for years now. It's paid off in the form of JT/JB, but it's now time to get aggressive in building a power house around JT.

Would you trade Brown for Wiggins, Wiseman, Minny pick and GSW Pick?

Yes. And then I'd flip that Minny pick (#4 or 5 perhaps), Timelord, Kemba, GSW pick, C's Pick and future picks to Washington for Beal, or to Portland for Dame.

Smart-Beal-Tatum-Wiggins-Wiseman OR Dame-Smart-Tatum-Wiggins-Wiseman is intriguing. I think Wiseman is going to be a beast

Not sure that deal gets you Beal or Dame unless they start demanding a trade to only the celtics.

I think
Smart
Fournier
WIggins
Tatum
Wiseman

Is really good now as the skillsets all seem to compliment well, imo.
Move Kemba for bench depth

Or track down a legit starting PG who can elevate everyone else around them. (or sign an expiring vet like Lowry or Conley)

[cloverleaf]

I wonder if Danny or the ownership will finally admit they have failed considerably to improve our team the last two years.

Somebody should step down, Danny or someone else. It happens in all teams when people fail to achieve the franchise´s goals and it´s not time to point the finger at the coach. This goes beyond Brad (who wasn´t good either).

Get KG in there leading the ownership group.

Team Wyc owes it to us at this point.

[cloverleaf]

Would you trade Brown for Wiggins, Wiseman, Minny pick and GSW Pick?

Yes. And then I'd flip that Minny pick (#4 or 5 perhaps), Timelord, Kemba, GSW pick, C's Pick and future picks to Washington for Beal, or to Portland for Dame.

Smart-Beal-Tatum-Wiggins-Wiseman OR Dame-Smart-Tatum-Wiggins-Wiseman is intriguing. I think Wiseman is going to be a beast

Not sure that deal gets you Beal or Dame unless they start demanding a trade to only the celtics.

I think
Smart
Fournier
WIggins
Tatum
Wiseman

Is really good now as the skillsets all seem to compliment well, imo.
Move Kemba for bench depth

Or track down a legit starting PG who can elevate everyone else around them. (or sign an expiring vet like Lowry or Conley)

1 and 5 are what most need addressing--though a healthy Rob solves a lot. Shoring up the 4 wouldn't hurt either.