ImageImageImage

Joel Embiid

Moderators: HartfordWhalers, BullyKing, sixers hoops, Foshan, Sixerscan

sodmoraes
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,527
And1: 1,082
Joined: Dec 28, 2004
 

Re: Joel Embiid 

Post#941 » by sodmoraes » Wed Jun 2, 2021 10:58 am

If Houston traded Harden with us i would have no doubts we could win some games without Biid. Sadly nowadays i not even sure Ben can hit one freethrow in the remainder of this series

Sent from my SM-G920I using RealGM mobile app
[quote:bba5df4c1f="hornetstime"]jr smith will be out of this league in 2 years, book it.[/quote]
youngcrev
RealGM
Posts: 28,785
And1: 9,699
Joined: Jun 12, 2005
Location: Philadelphia(ish)
   

Re: Joel Embiid 

Post#942 » by youngcrev » Wed Jun 2, 2021 12:27 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I heard a good point made the other day about us playing without Embiid. Losing him in that game was unexpected, it took everyone by surprise....(well sort of), but it threw off the game plan and we were forced to adjust in game. Doc will have a different approach tonight and it should work. Look for us to get up and down the floor quickly, look for Ben to really dictate the pace and get guys involved. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Green and Curry have big games. Hopefully we hear more on Embiid by this afternoon.


Hopefully Mike Scott was just a panic move. I really don't get what they accomplish by having him out there instead of a guard. Not a rebounder or a rim protector. And it's not like Washington has anyone you need to worry about in the post in the starting lineup (and the Robin Lopez skyhook is clearly unstoppable no matter who is on him...)
Embiid-MVP
Junior
Posts: 490
And1: 286
Joined: Apr 20, 2019
       

Re: Joel Embiid 

Post#943 » by Embiid-MVP » Wed Jun 2, 2021 1:13 pm

https://www.audacy.com/94wip/sports/76-ers/sixers-executive-confirms-joel-embiid-doubtful-for-game-5
Not sure anyone posted this but man the more secretive they are the worse I feel about this. Maybe I'm just panicking but this sounds like it was quoted from Doug Pederson when wentz went down at first. I know it wasn't the playoffs yet but very similar comments
:banghead:
Embiid-MVP
Junior
Posts: 490
And1: 286
Joined: Apr 20, 2019
       

Re: Joel Embiid 

Post#944 » by Embiid-MVP » Wed Jun 2, 2021 1:18 pm

youngcrev wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I heard a good point made the other day about us playing without Embiid. Losing him in that game was unexpected, it took everyone by surprise....(well sort of), but it threw off the game plan and we were forced to adjust in game. Doc will have a different approach tonight and it should work. Look for us to get up and down the floor quickly, look for Ben to really dictate the pace and get guys involved. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Green and Curry have big games. Hopefully we hear more on Embiid by this afternoon.


Hopefully Mike Scott was just a panic move. I really don't get what they accomplish by having him out there instead of a guard. Not a rebounder or a rim protector. And it's not like Washington has anyone you need to worry about in the post in the starting lineup (and the Robin Lopez skyhook is clearly unstoppable no matter who is on him...)


What do you propose instead of Scott starting? A guard isn't gonna cut it. Dwight starting? Then who's the backup then?

BBall Paul Id be down for a test run to start the game over Scott but even then it's probably similar results.

Ben playing the 5 might get him into foul trouble quickly again even though this is what I'd love to see out of our options but he'd have to watch the fouls
:banghead:
XtremeDunkz
General Manager
Posts: 8,512
And1: 7,063
Joined: Mar 08, 2012
       

Re: Joel Embiid 

Post#945 » by XtremeDunkz » Wed Jun 2, 2021 1:29 pm

Embiid-MVP wrote:https://www.audacy.com/94wip/sports/76-ers/sixers-executive-confirms-joel-embiid-doubtful-for-game-5
Not sure anyone posted this but man the more secretive they are the worse I feel about this. Maybe I'm just panicking but this sounds like it was quoted from Doug Pederson when wentz went down at first. I know it wasn't the playoffs yet but very similar comments
It's absolutely bad. Anyone saying otherwise is in denial.

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
10/27/16
Nemesis21 wrote:It is absolutely hilarious hearing people still say Embiid has superstar potential.The guy is one injury away from being Greg Oden.:lol: Except Oden manged to play over 100 games in the NBA, I don't think Embiid will play more.
User avatar
76ciology
RealGM
Posts: 65,980
And1: 26,947
Joined: Jun 06, 2002

Re: Joel Embiid 

Post#946 » by 76ciology » Wed Jun 2, 2021 1:31 pm

youngcrev wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I heard a good point made the other day about us playing without Embiid. Losing him in that game was unexpected, it took everyone by surprise....(well sort of), but it threw off the game plan and we were forced to adjust in game. Doc will have a different approach tonight and it should work. Look for us to get up and down the floor quickly, look for Ben to really dictate the pace and get guys involved. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Green and Curry have big games. Hopefully we hear more on Embiid by this afternoon.


Hopefully Mike Scott was just a panic move. I really don't get what they accomplish by having him out there instead of a guard. Not a rebounder or a rim protector. And it's not like Washington has anyone you need to worry about in the post in the starting lineup (and the Robin Lopez skyhook is clearly unstoppable no matter who is on him...)


Ever noticed that Embiid is on top of the key whenever we try to let Ben or Tobi attack a mismatch?

Im not justifying its the right move. But because we dont have anyone to generate offense, our best bet when Biid was out was to find offense with Tobi and Ben. And this can only be done if the center is spacing the floor. Gafford was blocking Tobi’s drives.

What we should have done more IMO and i could be wrong, was to bench Ben and complete run the 2nd unit we often run with 3-4 guards with D12. Which has a frontcourt of Tobi and D12 and have 3 guards in a combination of Ghill, Milton, Maxey, Green, Kork, Seth or Thybulle.

Maybe use those guards while pairing Tobi&D12 or Ben&Scott in the frontcourt.

It would look like this.

4-5 pairs: tobi-D12 or Ben-Scott

A combination of Ghill, Milton, Maxey, Green, Kork, Seth or Thybulle at the 1-3 positions.
There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
zaz102
Starter
Posts: 2,131
And1: 1,279
Joined: Nov 08, 2016

Re: Joel Embiid 

Post#947 » by zaz102 » Wed Jun 2, 2021 1:36 pm

Embiid-MVP wrote:https://www.audacy.com/94wip/sports/76-ers/sixers-executive-confirms-joel-embiid-doubtful-for-game-5
Not sure anyone posted this but man the more secretive they are the worse I feel about this. Maybe I'm just panicking but this sounds like it was quoted from Doug Pederson when wentz went down at first. I know it wasn't the playoffs yet but very similar comments
I'm going to try to connect the dots (that aren't there) to figure out what is going on.

I'm guessing (based on Woj and couple other reports) that it is not too serious and will return for the playoffs.

But since they aren't announcing anything, there also has to be some sort of indecision.

My guess is whatever it is, the doctor originally said to rest it for a while (maybe a couple weeks) to be safe, but Embiid probably wants to play and feels relatively look good. Maybe the doctor came back and said give it another day or two, we'll see how you're doing and make a decision.

Otherwise, I can't figure out why they would be secretive if they had all the information either way especially after the vague positive reports.
eyeatoma
RealGM
Posts: 29,888
And1: 13,179
Joined: Feb 25, 2005
     

Re: Joel Embiid 

Post#948 » by eyeatoma » Wed Jun 2, 2021 1:37 pm

zaz102 wrote:
Embiid-MVP wrote:https://www.audacy.com/94wip/sports/76-ers/sixers-executive-confirms-joel-embiid-doubtful-for-game-5
Not sure anyone posted this but man the more secretive they are the worse I feel about this. Maybe I'm just panicking but this sounds like it was quoted from Doug Pederson when wentz went down at first. I know it wasn't the playoffs yet but very similar comments
I'm going to try to connect the dots (that aren't there) to figure out what is going on.

I'm guessing (based on Woj and couple other reports) that it is not too serious and will return for the playoffs.

But since they aren't announcing anything, there also has to be some sort of indecision.

My guess is whatever it is, the doctor originally said to rest it for a while (maybe a couple weeks) to be safe, but Embiid probably wants to play and feels relatively look good. Maybe the doctor came back and said give it another day or two, we'll see how you're doing and make a decision.

Otherwise, I can't figure out why they would be secretive if they had all the information either way especially after the vague positive reports.



I'd say this is the most logical conclusion. Well put.
User avatar
76ciology
RealGM
Posts: 65,980
And1: 26,947
Joined: Jun 06, 2002

Re: Joel Embiid 

Post#949 » by 76ciology » Wed Jun 2, 2021 1:37 pm

Well i dont think it was serious and the Sixers just want to be extra cautious while having Wiz win a game wouldnt hurt to sell more tix at our home game.
There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
eyeatoma
RealGM
Posts: 29,888
And1: 13,179
Joined: Feb 25, 2005
     

Re: Joel Embiid 

Post#950 » by eyeatoma » Wed Jun 2, 2021 1:44 pm

76ciology wrote:Well i dont think it was serious and the Sixers just want to be extra cautious while having Wiz win a game wouldnt hurt to sell more tix at our home game.



They are not sitting Embiid, because they said, hey, we can sell more tickets lol.
User avatar
76ciology
RealGM
Posts: 65,980
And1: 26,947
Joined: Jun 06, 2002

Re: Joel Embiid 

Post#951 » by 76ciology » Wed Jun 2, 2021 1:50 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
76ciology wrote:Well i dont think it was serious and the Sixers just want to be extra cautious while having Wiz win a game wouldnt hurt to sell more tix at our home game.



They are not sitting Embiid, because they said, hey, we can sell more tickets lol.


You disregarded the other reason and just focused on this one?

I even constructed it with a “wouldnt hurt” phrase was to imply that its nowhere near the primary reason and is more of an indirect positive benefit.

To add, it also wouldnt hurt that both Tobi and Ben can learn how to step up in the playoffs against a fringe playoff team.
There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
youngcrev
RealGM
Posts: 28,785
And1: 9,699
Joined: Jun 12, 2005
Location: Philadelphia(ish)
   

Re: Joel Embiid 

Post#952 » by youngcrev » Wed Jun 2, 2021 1:52 pm

Embiid-MVP wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I heard a good point made the other day about us playing without Embiid. Losing him in that game was unexpected, it took everyone by surprise....(well sort of), but it threw off the game plan and we were forced to adjust in game. Doc will have a different approach tonight and it should work. Look for us to get up and down the floor quickly, look for Ben to really dictate the pace and get guys involved. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Green and Curry have big games. Hopefully we hear more on Embiid by this afternoon.


Hopefully Mike Scott was just a panic move. I really don't get what they accomplish by having him out there instead of a guard. Not a rebounder or a rim protector. And it's not like Washington has anyone you need to worry about in the post in the starting lineup (and the Robin Lopez skyhook is clearly unstoppable no matter who is on him...)


What do you propose instead of Scott starting? A guard isn't gonna cut it. Dwight starting? Then who's the backup then?

BBall Paul Id be down for a test run to start the game over Scott but even then it's probably similar results.

Ben playing the 5 might get him into foul trouble quickly again even though this is what I'd love to see out of our options but he'd have to watch the fouls


No, not Dwight. Probably Korkmaz.

And I wouldn't have Ben defend the 5, I'd put Harris on Gafford. Not worried about that matchup on defense. The goal would be to drag Gafford away from the basket to negate his shot blocking and force him to defend in space where he struggles.
zaz102
Starter
Posts: 2,131
And1: 1,279
Joined: Nov 08, 2016

Re: Joel Embiid 

Post#953 » by zaz102 » Wed Jun 2, 2021 2:10 pm

76ciology wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
76ciology wrote:Well i dont think it was serious and the Sixers just want to be extra cautious while having Wiz win a game wouldnt hurt to sell more tix at our home game.



They are not sitting Embiid, because they said, hey, we can sell more tickets lol.


You disregarded the other reason and just focused on this one?

I even constructed it with a “wouldnt hurt” phrase was to imply that its nowhere near the primary reason and is more of an indirect positive benefit.

To add, it also wouldnt hurt that both Tobi and Ben can learn how to step up in the playoffs against a fringe playoff team.
Haha could you imagine the scene where Sott O'Neil comes down to the locker room and addresses the team- "You know, Embiid is doing fine, but imagine the extra money to be made from another home game. We've made the executive decision to sit him". Lol
the_process
RealGM
Posts: 29,325
And1: 10,408
Joined: May 01, 2010

Re: Joel Embiid 

Post#954 » by the_process » Wed Jun 2, 2021 3:06 pm

I’m assuming Jo’s out for the playoffs at this point, until shown otherwise. This team has proven they will blatantly lie if they think it will sell more tickets. And crowd limitations are coming off in time for them to sell out the building for Game 5.

Can’t even trust Woj, he’ll gladly shill for whatever management shovels him as long as he gets calls breaking every trade and draft pick.
the_process
RealGM
Posts: 29,325
And1: 10,408
Joined: May 01, 2010

Re: Joel Embiid 

Post#955 » by the_process » Wed Jun 2, 2021 3:07 pm

zaz102 wrote:
76ciology wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:

They are not sitting Embiid, because they said, hey, we can sell more tickets lol.


You disregarded the other reason and just focused on this one?

I even constructed it with a “wouldnt hurt” phrase was to imply that its nowhere near the primary reason and is more of an indirect positive benefit.

To add, it also wouldnt hurt that both Tobi and Ben can learn how to step up in the playoffs against a fringe playoff team.
Haha could you imagine the scene where Sott O'Neil comes down to the locker room and addresses the team- "You know, Embiid is doing fine, but imagine the extra money to be made from another home game. We've made the executive decision to sit him". Lol


I can imagine it. Totally. That’s the sad part.
User avatar
76ciology
RealGM
Posts: 65,980
And1: 26,947
Joined: Jun 06, 2002

Re: Joel Embiid 

Post#956 » by 76ciology » Wed Jun 2, 2021 5:02 pm

Read on Twitter
There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
User avatar
Mik317
RealGM
Posts: 41,338
And1: 19,965
Joined: May 31, 2005
Location: In Spain...without the S
       

Re: Joel Embiid 

Post#957 » by Mik317 » Wed Jun 2, 2021 5:05 pm

we live in spain without the s
#NeverGonnaBeGood
PLO
Analyst
Posts: 3,062
And1: 1,306
Joined: Aug 04, 2016
     

Re: Joel Embiid 

Post#958 » by PLO » Wed Jun 2, 2021 5:05 pm

This....is not good.
LakersDynasty14 wrote:Lonzo Ball is literally on a Hall of Fame trajectory at this point. This thread is so full of fail.


shakes0 wrote:I hope they put Simmons on Trae. He'll foul him out by the 3rd quarter. plus Simmons can't stay in front of Trae. No one can.
XtremeDunkz
General Manager
Posts: 8,512
And1: 7,063
Joined: Mar 08, 2012
       

Re: Joel Embiid 

Post#959 » by XtremeDunkz » Wed Jun 2, 2021 5:05 pm

Yup there it is. It was obvious.

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
10/27/16
Nemesis21 wrote:It is absolutely hilarious hearing people still say Embiid has superstar potential.The guy is one injury away from being Greg Oden.:lol: Except Oden manged to play over 100 games in the NBA, I don't think Embiid will play more.
youngcrev
RealGM
Posts: 28,785
And1: 9,699
Joined: Jun 12, 2005
Location: Philadelphia(ish)
   

Re: Joel Embiid 

Post#960 » by youngcrev » Wed Jun 2, 2021 5:06 pm

Kinda crazy that the Atlanta Hawks are gonna be in the ECF...

Return to Philadelphia 76ers