The Around The NBA Thread

[MisterRoy]

It's a damn shame Lillard will likely be one of those All time greats without a ring...

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Maybe another early playoff exit may get him thinking about forcing a trade. Would be unbelievable to have a backcourt of him and LaVine.

Wouldn't it be just another version of him and CJ in Portland?


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[d boy gentleman]

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[MrSparkle]

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Ainge had a long and strong tenure as GM. Stevens had a great coaching run. Both jobs are generally short and volatile for most hires. Very natural move right there.

Many GMs have had 2-4 golden years, but it's very rare for GMs to see success across 2 different eras; especially with a very short transition/rebuild period. Riley, Buford, Ainge and Morey stand out to me as the top 4 GMs of the past 20 years.

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Ainge had a long and strong tenure as GM. Stevens had a great coaching run. Both jobs are generally short and volatile for most hires. Very natural move right there.

Many GMs have had 2-4 golden years, but it's very rare for GMs to see success across 2 different eras; especially with a very short transition/rebuild period. Riley, Buford, Ainge and Morey stand out to me as the top 4 GMs of the past 20 years.

Wow. Count me in on wanting to get Smart. He may be the best fit we can find next to Zach. His playmaking has really improved.

[Andi Obst]

Not surprised to see Ainge stepping down. Seems like the right time to do that. But Stevens as his replacement genuinely shocks me. I would have bet a considerable amount of money on Mike Zarren getting that job.

Will be very interesting and weird to see who Stevens hires to replace himself.

[Chi town]

Whoa. Stevens is an exceptional coach. Don’t like the move to GM.

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That's going to be a tough coaching replacement.

And FO work is a lot of networking with agents and player's people, does Stevens have any skill or talent in this? Boston isn't realistically going to be a bottom 3 team to get the next star via draft, adding talent is going to be through FA. Really successful new FO people have been agency guys like Bob Myers, Leon Rose, and Rob Pelinka...not basketball Xs & Os guys like Stevens.

[Am2626]

It's a damn shame Lillard will likely be one of those All time greats without a ring...

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Maybe another early playoff exit may get him thinking about forcing a trade. Would be unbelievable to have a backcourt of him and LaVine.

Wouldn't it be just another version of him and CJ in Portland?

I think LaVine is a better and more talented player than CJ. LaVine’s athleticism and potential is far superior to CJ in my opinion. Also the road in the East is easier than in the West. The East has gotten better but there are still a lot more better teams out west and getting to the Finals in the West would be much harder to do than in the East.

[Mbrahv0528]

Excited for the Bulls to sign Dennis Schröder and to hear how he's the missing piece to the puzzle

If we go after him hard, I give up on this FO.

We should stay far away from him.

What indicators do we have that we would be remotely interested in a retread like Dennis (who doesn't fit in this team, at all), other than that guys post?

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[Wingy]

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That's going to be a tough coaching replacement.

And FO work is a lot of networking with agents and player's people, does Stevens have any skill or talent in this? Boston isn't realistically going to be a bottom 3 team to get the next star via draft, adding talent is going to be through FA. Really successful new FO people have been agency guys like Bob Myers, Leon Rose, and Rob Pelinka...not basketball Xs & Os guys like Stevens.

Meh, I’d guess you overrate the agency component. Rose/Pelinka = NY/LA. My dog could steer key pieces to those markets.

Not saying it doesn’t matter (see ME here), just that it’s not necessarily the agency experience that’s getting it done. I think Brad will do just fine.

[Leslie Forman]

What indicators do we have that we would be remotely interested in a retread like Dennis (who doesn't fit in this team, at all), other than that guys post?

It's not that Schroder would necessarily be their first choice, it's more that Conley and Lowry obviously will have much better options, Lonzo is an RFA, and so there's a high likelihood that Schroder is what will be left.

Considering that the FO just gave Coby an entire season as a PG even though everyone knew he sucked balls at it, and with how barren the FA class is in what is now a very desperate win-now situation, yeah, settling on a 12th choice like Dennis Schroder might be it.

But at that point, I'd much rather just throw a deal at Devonte Graham and hope Charlotte doesn't match.

[Jeffster81]

Those wicked knuckleheads from Boston do not like this move, apparently. To those fans, this falls under the ole "meet the new boss, same as the old boss" idea. Some of the Celtics fans were trying to will getting Masai into existence but instead they get an unproven guy in that role.

To me, this is very weird move for the Celtics.

[Peelboy]

Personally, I find it interesting and humorous that the architect of the next great dynasty with the greatest trove of draft assets acquired (at least prior to the OKC trades), got bounced by the team that he reportedly screwed over and at this point in time looks a lot better long-term.

Starting with those picks and ending up here........with a couple conf finals but no ring or NBA finals trips.

(and yes I know it's a damn sight better than the Bulls, but the Bulls didn't have a trove of picks from a ridiculously lopsided trade. Plus that's not the point, the point is after all that the Nets are in better shape than the Celtics, whoda thunk that!)

[Andi Obst]

Personally, I find it interesting and humorous that the architect of the next great dynasty with the greatest trove of draft assets acquired (at least prior to the OKC trades), got bounced by the team that he reportedly screwed over and at this point in time looks a lot better long-term.

The trade has nothing to do with this series. The outcome doesn’t make it any better for the Nets. They still got screwed in that trade. Boston still won that trade...by a lot. The reason the Nets are in better shape now is the decision of Durant and Irving to team up in New York for a non-Dolan team. That‘s it.

You can absolutely argue that Ainge should’ve used his draft capital differently at some points, that he could’ve been more aggressive in trade talks, but the trade brought 2 young all-star wings to Boston and did nothing for Brooklyn.

[DASMACKDOWN]

To me Ainge fell on his sword. He did a fantastic job acquiring talent but he always seemed too greedy and never pulled the trigger on the biggest asset to put him over the top.

I actually was listening to Chuck on Inside the NBA, and I actually agree with him. I am not sure the tandem of Brown and Tatum works long term.

Not because they cant be successful, but I see a Tmac/Harden thing with Jaylen Brown.

Its clear Tatum is a star but Brown really is like 98% Tatum.

There is no reason for Brown to feel he needs to take a step back and why would/should he?

Under new mgmt, I wouldnt be surprised if Brown's name gets dangled in a potential trade for some other disgruntled star player. that fits better with Tatum.

[cool007]

Excited for the Bulls to sign Dennis Schröder and to hear how he's the missing piece to the puzzle

If we go after him hard, I give up on this FO.

We should stay far away from him.

What indicators do we have that we would be remotely interested in a retread like Dennis (who doesn't fit in this team, at all), other than that guys post?

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Exactly, I do not want Dennis Shroder, I rather bulls go after guys like Compazzo, TJ McConnel, Brogden (if he is available), or heck Kyle Lowry as 2 year contract.

[kulaz3000]

Brad Stevens is a head coach, not an executive. It wouldn't shock me if Brad goes to coach another team in 3 years or less.

[johnnyvann840]

Maybe the Bulls can't be blamed for not developing Blakeney?

Antonio Blakeney Arrested For Home Invasion, Arranging Robbery, Aggravated Assault & Grand Theft

A professional basketball player with the NBA G League was arrested in Kissimmee early Wednesday for allegedly arranging a robbery, court records show.

Antonio Blakeney, 24, faces two charges each of of home invasion robbery with a firearm and aggravated assault alongside a grand theft charge after he was arrested at a Kissimmee home early Wednesday. In his arrest affidavit, a deputy said he invited two men over to his house to play cards and then invited another group over to rob them, records show.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/crime/os-ne-basketball-player-antonio-blakeney-arrested-kissimmee-20210522-y7j4dy6qojgxpcbcmftt6gehfi-story.html

One of my least favorite Bull players of all time. What a scumbag.

[CobyWhite0]

To me Ainge fell on his sword. He did a fantastic job acquiring talent but he always seemed too greedy and never pulled the trigger on the biggest asset to put him over the top.

I actually was listening to Chuck on Inside the NBA, and I actually agree with him. I am not sure the tandem of Brown and Tatum works long term.

Not because they cant be successful, but I see a Tmac/Harden thing with Jaylen Brown.

Its clear Tatum is a star but Brown really is like 98% Tatum.

There is no reason for Brown to feel he needs to take a step back and why would/should he?

Under new mgmt, I wouldnt be surprised if Brown's name gets dangled in a potential trade for some other disgruntled star player. that fits better with Tatum.

If you're right about Tatum and Brown being kind of redundant, I read that the Celtics expressed "significant interest" in Vuc at the trade deadline - what would we have to add to make them consider a Vuc for Brown trade?

[Michael Jackson]

To me Ainge fell on his sword. He did a fantastic job acquiring talent but he always seemed too greedy and never pulled the trigger on the biggest asset to put him over the top.

I actually was listening to Chuck on Inside the NBA, and I actually agree with him. I am not sure the tandem of Brown and Tatum works long term.

Not because they cant be successful, but I see a Tmac/Harden thing with Jaylen Brown.

Its clear Tatum is a star but Brown really is like 98% Tatum.

There is no reason for Brown to feel he needs to take a step back and why would/should he?

Under new mgmt, I wouldnt be surprised if Brown's name gets dangled in a potential trade for some other disgruntled star player. that fits better with Tatum.

Possible but isn't that basically what the Clippers are with Leonard and PG? Obviously if the right trade is there Brown can go but what is the right trade?