SOUL wrote:pepe1991 wrote:Few thoughts.
For start, Fournier is having strong playoffs. Blaming him for not being able to guard James Harden or Durant 1 on 1 is laughable. Virtually nobody can guard them. That's why they are one of best to ever do it.
"Strong" is a bit of an overstatement. He's averaging 13 ppg as arguably their 2nd most talented scorer with Kemba and Jaylen out. Shooting is fine, the rest meh.
Oladipo vs Fournier: Both could've co-existed, same with AG and Tobias. No reason anybody had to be moved other than to placate young egos, minutes were available if they weren't being used up for vets that retired a year or two after their Magic stint. It would be the equivalent of trading Cole or Hampton or Chuma right now to bring in some vets. For what reason? We may not keep all of our young guys by the time our team is good again, but to trade them for guys like Ibaka, Jennings, or Ilyasova is like trading our guys now for Bjelica or Schroder or something. Makes no sense when we know we are gonna be a bad team.
And we couldn't predict injury troubles with Oladipo which is the only reason why Fournier was the right person to keep. Oladipo as a two way player is better than Fournier when both are healthy but Oladipo is never healthy anymore which made Fournier the correct person to keep. Fournier played solid for us, underwhelming at times and also solid for us at times.
Finished played with 15,4 ppg on 43,46,80 split. That's fine in my books for starting SG.
t would be the equivalent of trading Cole or Hampton or Chuma right now to bring in some vets. For what reason? We may not keep all of our young guys by the time our team is good again, but to trade them for guys like Ibaka, Jennings, or Ilyasova is like trading our guys now for Bjelica or Schroder or something. Makes no sense when we know we are gonna be a bad team.
it depends, if you have star guard who plays same position as Cole & Hampton, i would be fine moving them for somebody who makes team more competitive and who will help that young star play competitive basketball.
With Orlando and Harris/Oladipo trades 3 things were different.
- Orlando didn't have clear star to add vets to
- Harris/ Oladipo was pretty damn solid to lose them like that
- vets we retained were simply poor players
And we couldn't predict injury troubles with Oladipo which is the only reason why Fournier was the right person to keep. Oladipo as a two way player is better than Fournier when both are healthy but Oladipo is never healthy anymore which made Fournier the correct person to keep. Fournier played solid for us, underwhelming at times and also solid for us at times.
It's hindsight , sure. But Oladipo after trade:
OKC stint- 16 ppg, 53,4% TS
Pacers breakout- best year of his career
everything since ( 3 years combined) -88 games played ( missed 61% of games ), 40% FG ,50% TS.
Outside of that one year, he has been injuried and terrible every since he left.
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