Damian Lillard

[Capn'O]

Ok, fine. I'll bite. If we can get Lillard, keeping Mitch is a must to keep defenders from blitzing the 3 point line. Also defense.

Big reason why we lost vs. Atlanta is they didn't need to worry that much about Noel and could attack our shooters and Randle. To make no mention of Elf but that kinda resolves itself with the whole Lillard thing.

you're hired

My membership in the Mitch or Bitch Fan Club has never wavered.

[Gorilla Monsoon]

This place really is a crazy town.

It’s like we never went through the Melo trade and didn’t deal with the consequence for 10 years

My god.

They'll never get it bro. Especially after the first round exit, everyone is jumping out the window.

I'd rather throw huge money at Chris Paul for 2 years than trade the farm for Dame. And I love Dame. He's amazing. But it just doesn't add up if we're giving up everything.

[Spree2Houston]

He wants to win so unless Kawhi comes here, he probably prefers to be traded to the Lakers. AD for Lillard works

So him and ancient Lebron is a winning situation?

Barring Kawhi coming here, it’s better than Lillard, Regular season Randle and 1 year mercenaries. They would be a 2nd round exit team with no future upside since we traded away all our picks

[DaGawd]

This place really is a crazy town.

It’s like we never went through the Melo trade and didn’t deal with the consequence for 10 years

My god.

They'll never get it bro. Especially after the first round exit, everyone is jumping out the window.

I'd rather throw huge money at Chris Paul for 2 years than trade the farm for Dame. And I love Dame. He's amazing. But it just doesn't add up if we're giving up everything.

Our everything really isn’t much to write home about any way.. getting Dame would be amazing.. y’all are the ones who don’t get it

[Guano]

I agree with those that are too good for 2nd round exits - I'd much rather barely make the playoffs then get dominated in the first round and get humiliated by Trae. Because that sht was a blast.

[Spree2Houston]

This place really is a crazy town.

It’s like we never went through the Melo trade and didn’t deal with the consequence for 10 years

My god.

I get the feeling the folks suggesting trading for Dame are in the 18-23 age range and folks who want no part of giving up everything for Lillard are 30+

[Cookies4Life]

It would take 4 1st round picks and one of Randle or Barrett plus some of our young guys- probably Iq, Knox and Obi. My preference is to center the package around Randle since RJ is only 20 years old and still has much room to improve. The hope is he can hopefully become a perennial 20 ppg guy on good efficiency down the road.

You make this trade only if you can acquire another superstar here first- the most obvious choice would be Kawhi Leonard. He's a UFA and can sign anywhere he wants. We'd have to sell him on the idea that him teaming up with Lillard would get him farther than him staying paired up with Panedmic P. They signed George to a max contract so the Clippers don't really have any room to shuffle their roster unless they're able to package George and retool around Leonard.

I get Kawhi is from Cali but that team has underperformed greatly the past 2 seasons. If we could pull this off, we'd have to lock in Robinson to a long term deal, bring back Rose and Burks on 2 year deals to fortify the 2nd unit and we'd become real players at that point.

What was the point of getting Leon Rose and William Wesley here if they can't use their extensive networking to try and lure in the top tier guys? This team did well this season, the Garden clearly had the best atmosphere out of any arena in the playoffs and those 2 superstars could further their legacy with winning in this town. We might as well shoot for the stars this offseason.

[N8isScofield]

I know we're desperate and thirsty and I love Dame's heart and game as much as anyone but this dude would be 5 years older than Melo was when we traded for him with less of a playoff resume. Like did we learn nothing the last time? Even if we got Kawhi too, dude has looked extremely average for 2 years. We'd be worse depth wise than the Clippers are with the same caliber of pieces. So we gut the team to advance maybe 1 more round where any of Milwaukee, Philly or most assuredly Brooklyn knock us out? What does that accomplish? Dame is great but this is not like trading for LeBron or even Kawhi from 2 years ago. It's an absolutely terrible idea to sink all of the assets we have into a Lillard deal when the price would probably be enough to get someone like LaVine. I just don't get it.

[Sark]

Go after CJ. Portland won‘t trade dame

Portland really has no say in the matter. When stars want to leave they get what they want.

He's under contract till 2025. They absolutely have a say in the matter.

I don't see Lillard loafing it the way Harden did, and forcing their hand. They may agree to trade him, for his own sake, but they have full control of it.

[Cookies4Life]

This place really is a crazy town.

It’s like we never went through the Melo trade and didn’t deal with the consequence for 10 years

My god.

I get the feeling the folks suggesting trading for Dame are in the 18-23 age range and folks who want no part of giving up everything for Lillard are 30+

Lillard's game isn't centered around speed or athleticism. He's quite similar to Steph Curry in that regard and we saw what Steph did at 33 years old.

Damian's game is going to age like fine wine. He'll be an MVP caliber player for at least the next 3-4 seasons barring any injuries.

[msanchez2725]

Dame is the man, but I’d rather sign Lonzo this off-season and take my chances with singing Beal or Lavine in 2022. Gutting the team for a PG over 30, no matter how great he is, feels like the wrong move.

[JBreezeNY]

Melo trade wasn’t the problem, Melo trade was a problem.

We didn’t have any assets left after, that’s the issue at hand in a Dame trade.

Doesn’t matter how this board views the rest of the team after Randle & RJ, the issue is we have some decent role players on the team and all of them would be wiped out for a Dame trade which, if we’re frank, putting Randle & Dame together STILL doesn’t win you anything so you’d need to land another player...but guess what?

NO ASSETS

[Guano]

Melo trade wasn’t the problem, Melo trade was a problem.

We didn’t have any assets left after, that’s the issue at hand in a Dame trade.

Doesn’t matter how this board views the rest of the team after Randle & RJ, the issue is we have some decent role players on the team and all of them would be wiped out for a Dame trade which, if we’re frank, putting Randle & Dame together STILL doesn’t win you anything so you’d need to land another player...but guess what?

NO ASSETS

holding onto those ASSETS has worked out really well for the celtics.

[Im Coming Home]

Price is way too high for a 31 yr old PG on the tail end of his prime. This is worse than the Melo trade, at least Melo was 26, and the assets we traded away weren't **** 20 years old.

Once again we're gonna rush a f*cking rebuild and positive direction of a team for an older star who will not make us a contender and we'll be left with no assets or young players in 2-3 years when Dame/Julius lead us to nothing and we have to start over..

Again I think this is all tied to getting a 3rd piece to go with Dame and Julius if they do decide to make a move for Lillard

I can agree that if we get a 3rd piece for free through FA(like if Kawhi crazily opts out or whatever and signs with us) then you can make this move, but if not, its not worth it. The '3rd' piece would have to be REALLY good too, it has to be someone whos at or better than Dame's level, can't be another player at Julius level.

[Im Coming Home]

y'all think thibs gonna deal with dame's refusal to play defense and kawhi's refusal to play every game?



playoffs lost got ya'll thinking stupid.

what would you do, going forward?

You gotta be patient and keep slowly improving the team with smart moves. We're doing it the right way, and hopefully by the time we're fully ready to contend those current contenders who will likely be unbeatable for a few years are gone.

I'd throw money at the older PGs, like a huge one-year max contract for CP3, Conley, Lowry, etc and see if we can get them to sign, this will keep our cap space for the following year.

I'd see if we can get Randle to sign his extension this year at the cheaper rate as well so that we keep even more cap space open in the future.

We really gotta use RJ/IQ/Mitch cheap contracts to our advantage, granted Mitch's contract runs out next year but RJ/IQ are on the team and positives and are cheap.

Its like in the NFL where you build a team around a young QB because they're cheap and it enables you to spend elsewhere, we have to do that, we gotta stop throwing away our future and assets for a chance to be a 2nd tier contender, one that is unlikely to ever win but maybe would be in the conversation but realistically is unlikely.

Dame/Julius is not enough, and if a 3rd star was coming they'd have to be a very high tier 3rd star because Dame/Julius/+Star on Julius level isn't gonna be able to contend.

[JBreezeNY]

Melo trade wasn’t the problem, Melo trade was a problem.

We didn’t have any assets left after, that’s the issue at hand in a Dame trade.

Doesn’t matter how this board views the rest of the team after Randle & RJ, the issue is we have some decent role players on the team and all of them would be wiped out for a Dame trade which, if we’re frank, putting Randle & Dame together STILL doesn’t win you anything so you’d need to land another player...but guess what?

NO ASSETS

holding onto those ASSETS has worked out really well for the celtics.

Ah yes bringing up a different team who’s actually been to the ECF recently & has a legit star on their roster

[Garbagelo]

Not happening.

[Im Coming Home]

Melo trade wasn’t the problem, Melo trade was a problem.

We didn’t have any assets left after, that’s the issue at hand in a Dame trade.

Doesn’t matter how this board views the rest of the team after Randle & RJ, the issue is we have some decent role players on the team and all of them would be wiped out for a Dame trade which, if we’re frank, putting Randle & Dame together STILL doesn’t win you anything so you’d need to land another player...but guess what?

NO ASSETS

holding onto those ASSETS has worked out really well for the celtics.

I mean.. they have Tatum and Brown.. they're gonna be set for years to come.

Ainge just held onto them too long, his team was nearly a contender who was one move away from being a contender and he still didn't move assets that was his mistake. We're not nearly as close as the Celtics were a few years ago.

[DrCoach]

Dame is 32, no way I give up all that.

I see them trading McCullum 1st

[Guano]

Melo trade wasn’t the problem, Melo trade was a problem.

We didn’t have any assets left after, that’s the issue at hand in a Dame trade.

Doesn’t matter how this board views the rest of the team after Randle & RJ, the issue is we have some decent role players on the team and all of them would be wiped out for a Dame trade which, if we’re frank, putting Randle & Dame together STILL doesn’t win you anything so you’d need to land another player...but guess what?

NO ASSETS

holding onto those ASSETS has worked out really well for the celtics.

Ah yes bringing up a different team who’s actually been to the ECF recently & has a legit star on their roster

Got it holding onto your assest hurts your team if they've been successful and if they have a legit star. lol