Damian Lillard

[Oscirus]

If we we’re to haggle over giving up young pieces it’d be for IQ not Rj!!!

IQ is the better prospect and if we’re honest with ourselves it isn’t even close!!!!!!

iq couldnt even put payton on the bench or give rose anything resembling relief. I will agree that he def has the more marketable skill.

[N8isScofield]

I know we're desperate and thirsty and I love Dame's heart and game as much as anyone but this dude would be 5 years older than Melo was when we traded for him with less of a playoff resume. Like did we learn nothing the last time? Even if we got Kawhi too, dude has looked extremely average for 2 years. We'd be worse depth wise than the Clippers are with the same caliber of pieces. So we gut the team to advance maybe 1 more round where any of Milwaukee, Philly or most assuredly Brooklyn knock us out? What does that accomplish? Dame is great but this is not like trading for LeBron or even Kawhi from 2 years ago. It's an absolutely terrible idea to sink all of the assets we have into a Lillard deal when the price would probably be enough to get someone like LaVine. I just don't get it.

If a team has the opportunity to put a Dame-Kawhi team together they have to do it from a pure "small chance you win the title" perspective. If you don't at least go for that, and another team pulls it off, you lose your job as a GM.

I agree that it probably doesn't equal a title. You'd need someone on the Nets to get hurt basically for that team to come out of the East and the window is short-3 years tops.

Fortunately, I don't think the Knicks will even be considered by Portland as a trade partner or Kawhi as a FA destination.

I'll honestly be happy if we stand pat with the cap space or sell high on Randle. But I fully expect a knee jerk Lonzo signing.

You can go for it without being reckless though. Perry managed to keep his job after KD and Kyrie went to Brooklyn. I know Dolan is a piece of work but the fact that anyone made it out of that alive tells me that it's ok not to go scorched earth trying to put those 2 together at the expense of every asset we have. It makes more logical sense to go after younger assets trending upwards who will be ready to contend as the rest of these teams get old. The bigger a window you give yourself, the better your chances are. You're right though, it probably never even gets to the point we need to worry about any of this.

[AusKnicksTape]

Dame not going to a super team IMO. He’s said it before and I think they’re more likely to try swap CJ for Beal and bring in better pieces to have another go at it. New coach aswell.

[ENYK]

If we we’re to haggle over giving up young pieces it’d be for IQ not Rj!!!

IQ is the better prospect and if we’re honest with ourselves it isn’t even close!!!!!!

Yeah, I see IQ taking leaps forward if he's given some actual burn and room to make mistakes... Thibs isn't here for player development so he sat him a lot, but the guy has all the tools.. quickness, shooting touch, length, and more than anything BALLS.

IQ will take the big shot and has the actual off the dribble shooting ability to make it... Especially for today's NBA, I can envision him being successful much more easily than lead-foot RJ.

[TheGreenArrow]

If we we’re to haggle over giving up young pieces it’d be for IQ not Rj!!!

IQ is the better prospect and if we’re honest with ourselves it isn’t even close!!!!!!

iq couldnt even put payton on the bench or give rose anything resembling relief. I will agree that he def has the more marketable skill.

Rj should have been on the bench right next to Payton if we’re being honest!!!!

Dude was a 0 All series!!!!!!

[TheGreenArrow]

If we we’re to haggle over giving up young pieces it’d be for IQ not Rj!!!

IQ is the better prospect and if we’re honest with ourselves it isn’t even close!!!!!!

Yeah, I see IQ taking leaps forward if he's given some actual burn and room to make mistakes... Thibs isn't here for player development so he sat him a lot, but the guy has all the tools.. quickness, shooting touch, length, and more than anything BALLS.

IQ will take the big shot and has the actual off the dribble shooting ability to make it... Especially for today's NBA, I can envision him being successful much more easily than lead-foot RJ.

Facts!!!!!

But I don’t think the rest of the board is ready for that convo yet!!!!

[Oscirus]

If we we’re to haggle over giving up young pieces it’d be for IQ not Rj!!!

IQ is the better prospect and if we’re honest with ourselves it isn’t even close!!!!!!

iq couldnt even put payton on the bench or give rose anything resembling relief. I will agree that he def has the more marketable skill.

Rj should have been on the bench right next to Payton if we’re being honest!!!!

Dude was a 0 All series!!!!!!

Whether or not I agree with that last statement is irrelevant, the fact that IQ couldnt get more playing time when the knicks clearly needed a pg/g/shooter is.

[ENYK]

If we we’re to haggle over giving up young pieces it’d be for IQ not Rj!!!

IQ is the better prospect and if we’re honest with ourselves it isn’t even close!!!!!!

Yeah, I see IQ taking leaps forward if he's given some actual burn and room to make mistakes... Thibs isn't here for player development so he sat him a lot, but the guy has all the tools.. quickness, shooting touch, length, and more than anything BALLS.

IQ will take the big shot and has the actual off the dribble shooting ability to make it... Especially for today's NBA, I can envision him being successful much more easily than lead-foot RJ.

Facts!!!!!

But I don’t think the rest of the board is ready for that convo yet!!!!

He just looks like a young Lou Williams/Jamal Crawford (not Knicks Jamal) out there when he's hitting. But he plays defense! If we were doing things the smart way, we'd be starting the kid, letting him get his feet wet for real.

This win now s*** for the sake of "culture" could come back to bite us. Would kill me to see IQ get traded and absolutely blow up on a more functional team.

There are 100% GMs out there watching this roster and plotting to pluck IQ away... He has all the tools to be an efficient instant offense guard (he's already closer than RJ), unlike some people he can get to the line.

[Synciere]

So which terrible Portland contract are taking back on top of dames 40 or whatever mil?

[Oscirus]

And while we're at it, how is randle part of any super team? I get Leonard and Lillard but Randle? All it takes is one all star appearance to be part of a so-called super team?

[TheGreenArrow]

iq couldnt even put payton on the bench or give rose anything resembling relief. I will agree that he def has the more marketable skill.

Rj should have been on the bench right next to Payton if we’re being honest!!!!

Dude was a 0 All series!!!!!!

Whether or not I agree with that last statement is irrelevant, the fact that IQ couldnt get more playing time when the knicks clearly needed a pg/g/shooter is.

That’s more on thibs being stubborn rather than IQ!!!!

Everybody an there mothers knew IQ should have been getting bulk of the minutes!!!!!

[nedleeds]

It seems as if he is on his way out. We all know Melo is going to advise to leave and go where his heart is. His comments recently says alot. What would it take to get Lillard ? He is exactly what we need. I under his prime is maxed at maybe 2-3 years.

RJ Barret
Kevin Knox
Mitchel Robinson
Frank Nik
Immanuel Quickley
2021 #19 & #21 Pick
2022 1st round pick & 2nd round pick

Would that be enough? Don't get me wrong I love Barret and Quickley but will they peak at Lillard's level?

We would obviously make this move knowing we have a 3rd star waiting in free agency to sign with us. Who is it ?

Julius Randle
Damian Lillard
3rd Star?

You mean 2nd star. So we trade our whole roster and have Vin Baker Jr. and Dame? How is that a better "chance to win" than just staying in Portland? The only reason for him to demand a trade to a particular team is because after the trade he makes them competitive.

[nedleeds]

So which terrible Portland contract are taking back on top of dames 40 or whatever mil?

Randles extension.

[Synciere]

So which terrible Portland contract are taking back on top of dames 40 or whatever mil?

Randles extension.

I meant which bad deal we’d take back given our cap space lol...

[nykinoz]

CJ and Lonzo is more realistic without having to absolutely gut the roster.

[makeitstop]

Price is way too high for a 31 yr old PG on the tail end of his prime. This is worse than the Melo trade, at least Melo was 26, and the assets we traded away weren't **** 20 years old.

Once again we're gonna rush a f*cking rebuild and positive direction of a team for an older star who will not make us a contender and we'll be left with no assets or young players in 2-3 years when Dame/Julius lead us to nothing and we have to start over..

Hey, maybe they're just doing their due diligence and seeing what it would take.

Besides, it's the Knicks. We never get these guys.

[Davis18]

Better option would be CP3 for 2 years 90M.
He will only cost money.
We can use saved assets for other needs.

[Spree2Houston]

Melo trade wasn’t the problem, Melo trade was a problem.

We didn’t have any assets left after, that’s the issue at hand in a Dame trade.

Doesn’t matter how this board views the rest of the team after Randle & RJ, the issue is we have some decent role players on the team and all of them would be wiped out for a Dame trade which, if we’re frank, putting Randle & Dame together STILL doesn’t win you anything so you’d need to land another player...but guess what?

NO ASSETS

holding onto those ASSETS has worked out really well for the celtics.

They also drafted Tatum and Brown and had assets to get 1-2 more stars. They were able to get Irving but he bailed. In our case, Lillard would be coming here to join Randle (inferior to Tatum and Brown) and no one else. We wouldn’t even be top 4 tbh. Nets, Sixers, Bucks, and Hawks would still be better. We would basically become a glorified 1st round exit team again

[Knick4Real]

If Dame is tired of being on a treadmill and not advancing, he's going to have to agree to be a member of a superteam. Either he'll go create a superteam elsewhere, or Portland will have to bring a superteam to him. That's just how it's done in the league these days and there's no other way to win.

Clips might be an attractive location since it would keep him in the west and near his hometown. Plus, Kawhi seems more interested in being happy (living in Cali and having the luxury of load management) than winning. That said, the KNICKS are the one team with all the assets, cap space, coach, and competent front office already in place to build a superteam overnight. Dame or anybody could basically write their own ticket and choose their own teammates.

[Oscirus]

If Dame is tired of being on a treadmill and not advancing, he's going to have to agree to be a member of a superteam. Either he'll go create a superteam elsewhere, or Portland will have to bring a superteam to him. That's just how it's done in the league these days and there's no other way to win.

Clips might be an attractive location since it would keep him in the west and near his hometown. Plus, Kawhi seems more interested in being happy (living in Cali and having the luxury of load management) than winning. That said, the KNICKS are the one team with all the assets, cap space, coach, and competent front office already in place to build a superteam overnight. Dame or anybody could basically write their own ticket and choose their own teammates.

We'd have the assets for about five minutes cuz short of an agreement from Kawhi ( which lol) We'd strip this team of everything resembling an asset.