MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021

Heat3 · Post #281 » by **Heat3** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 5:30 am

Bishop45 wrote:
Heat3 wrote:We’re not getting Kawhi. We’re not getting Dame. Maybe Lowery or CP3, but lesser players will be more realistic.

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Nah, He cant even get on the court there now.

Heat3 · Post #282 » by **Heat3** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 5:39 am

oreon wrote:
Heat3 wrote:We’re not getting Kawhi. We’re not getting Dame. Maybe Lowery or CP3, but lesser players will be more realistic.

We might. Depends how close Butler is with either two. Superstar movement nowadays is about player relationships. Dame would unlikely because there are 0 indications that he's close with Butler. But Kawhi I think is a possibility. Him and Butler know each other. How close are they ? Who knows. But I'm sure if Clips get bounced, Riley would be leaning on Butler to recruit Kawhi.

Nah. 2010 really spoiled people. Getting superstars is hard. Heat have only really done it 4 times in 25 years and that is better than most teams.

Zo
Shaq
Lebron/Bosh
Butler

More likely are the trades for a Posey and Walker

puppa bear · Post #283 » by **puppa bear** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 9:16 am

Flash4thewin wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Kobewade11 wrote:
Im super good on Dinwiddie..i’d rather go after Lonzo if it comes down to it.

I want Lonzo here bad but the RFA tag makes it much tougher. Dinwiddie sounds like he’s a hardcore dog and would fit in perfect here. Love his size at PG much like i do Lonzo. His size and length seem to make him a perfect fit next to Herro. He’s also only 28 with plenty of prime years left. Would make sense in this instance to keep Dragic around as his backup.

To make a competitive offer we would need to release basically every just to have the cap space to make a 20+ Mil offer for Ball. If they match we just lost the ability to sign and trade our players that are free agents or have an option. I could see a Hero + Dragic + future 2nd round pick in a sign and trade for Ball. That way we can still keep Duncan. It makes us younger and better defensively but still we need size. Maybe make a trade for Love? We would also need a backup pg.

Ball
Butler
Duncan
Love
Bam.

This gives us spacing. We would need a combo guard, back up pg and a backup PF/C

If Love is your cup of tea you’re better off pushing a for a Love/Sexton for Herro/Dragic/Iggy deal. We can pick up their options to trade them before FA & the $ matches almost perfectly. That allows us to resign Nunn/Dipo/Robinson, only then needing to solidify the big rotation

HeatingUp3 · Post #284 » by **HeatingUp3** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 9:44 am

I hate the fact we gonna end up, after all the waiting we had for a "whale", with a Spencer or a Evan. I really hope we can make something happen to actually have the ability to contend

twix2500 · Post #285 » by **twix2500** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 10:42 am

So we can move on from the Lillard dream. He is actively involved in who should be the Blazers head coach

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puppa bear · Post #286 » by **puppa bear** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 10:49 am

twix2500 wrote:So we can move on from the Lillard dream. He is actively involved in who should be the Blazers head coach

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Dude has be loyal as af, despite PDX never quite nailing the whole building process.

The list of Olshey’s low level mismanagement’s is actually pretty extensive. But Dame stays loyal.

contract · Post #287 » by **contract** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 10:51 am

Heat3 wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:
Heat3 wrote:We’re not getting Kawhi. We’re not getting Dame. Maybe Lowery or CP3, but lesser players will be more realistic.

Watch on YouTube

Nah, He cant even get on the court there now.

At 22: the future of our franchise.

At 24: too broken to replace broken Iggy for the NBA minimum.

That is some world class underachieving. You'd think he got run over by a tank. :nonono:

contract · Post #288 » by **contract** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 10:57 am

puppa bear wrote:
Flash4thewin wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:I want Lonzo here bad but the RFA tag makes it much tougher. Dinwiddie sounds like he’s a hardcore dog and would fit in perfect here. Love his size at PG much like i do Lonzo. His size and length seem to make him a perfect fit next to Herro. He’s also only 28 with plenty of prime years left. Would make sense in this instance to keep Dragic around as his backup.

To make a competitive offer we would need to release basically every just to have the cap space to make a 20+ Mil offer for Ball. If they match we just lost the ability to sign and trade our players that are free agents or have an option. I could see a Hero + Dragic + future 2nd round pick in a sign and trade for Ball. That way we can still keep Duncan. It makes us younger and better defensively but still we need size. Maybe make a trade for Love? We would also need a backup pg.

Ball
Butler
Duncan
Love
Bam.

This gives us spacing. We would need a combo guard, back up pg and a backup PF/C

If Love is your cup of tea you’re better off pushing a for a Love/Sexton for Herro/Dragic/Iggy deal. We can pick up their options to trade them before FA & the $ matches almost perfectly. That allows us to resign Nunn/Dipo/Robinson, only then needing to solidify the big rotation

Love??? The guy was practically scoring for the opposing team. Washed, injury prone, and a head case. Pass, pass, pass!

contract · Post #289 » by **contract** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 11:01 am

HeatingUp3 wrote:I hate the fact we gonna end up, after all the waiting we had for a "whale", with a Spencer or a Evan. I really hope we can make something happen to actually have the ability to contend

We're going to end up with a Herb. :cry:

Vertical Limit · Post #290 » by **Vertical Limit** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 11:05 am

Beenie wrote:If Dame is made available, I’d would only hope that Riley would make an aggressive offer. Port would obviously insist on any offer to include Bam and there ought to be zero hesitation from Mia in including Bam in a package for Dame.

Already Damian has given his input ... he wants Jason Kidd to coach him in Portland. Damian is a lifer for Portland has no interest in leaving.

Bishop45 · Post #291 » by **Bishop45** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 11:06 am

Cyborg Winnie going to surprise folk when his body finishes retrograde;

They counted out Rose, They wanted Curry traded instead of Monta; THEY

I'll wait

twix2500 · Post #292 » by **twix2500** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 11:15 am

Bishop45 wrote:Cyborg Winnie going to surprise folk when his body finishes retrograde;

They counted out Rose, They wanted Curry traded instead of Monta; THEY

I'll wait

Winslow been dead for 2 seasons and still his name lives on like Jesus on this board

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contract · Post #293 » by **contract** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 11:21 am

Bishop45 wrote:Cyborg Winnie going to surprise folk when his body finishes retrograde;

They counted out Rose, They wanted Curry traded instead of Monta; THEY

I'll wait

Winnie better learn to stay healthy and hit 3s at a non-embarrassing rate, or he's going to be out of the NBA before UD.

Vertical Limit · Post #294 » by **Vertical Limit** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 11:22 am

contract wrote:
Heat3 wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Nah, He cant even get on the court there now.

At 22: the future of our franchise.

At 24: too broken to replace broken Iggy for the NBA minimum.

That is some world class underachieving. You'd think he got run over by a tank.

Sad prt is everyone had us taking Booker that draft... but we outsmarted ourselves by falling for Winslow because the “experts” around the league had him at a higher grade and he was supposably going to be the fourth player taken...

Bishop45 · Post #295 » by **Bishop45** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 11:22 am

twix2500 wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:Cyborg Winnie going to surprise folk when his body finishes retrograde;

They counted out Rose, They wanted Curry traded instead of Monta; THEY

I'll wait
Winslow been dead for 2 seasons and still his name lives on like Jesus on this board

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Yes, I'm so sorry, shouldn't have mentioned him in your online presence

He must be Jesus, only way to make sense of it

contract · Post #296 » by **contract** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 11:24 am

twix2500 wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:Cyborg Winnie going to surprise folk when his body finishes retrograde;

They counted out Rose, They wanted Curry traded instead of Monta; THEY

I'll wait
Winslow been dead for 2 seasons and still his name lives on like Jesus on this board

People still want Beasley. We have a hard time burying our stars.

Hallstar · Post #297 » by **Hallstar** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 11:25 am

Flash4thewin wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Kobewade11 wrote:
Im super good on Dinwiddie..i’d rather go after Lonzo if it comes down to it.

I want Lonzo here bad but the RFA tag makes it much tougher. Dinwiddie sounds like he’s a hardcore dog and would fit in perfect here. Love his size at PG much like i do Lonzo. His size and length seem to make him a perfect fit next to Herro. He’s also only 28 with plenty of prime years left. Would make sense in this instance to keep Dragic around as his backup.

To make a competitive offer we would need to release basically every just to have the cap space to make a 20+ Mil offer for Ball. If they match we just lost the ability to sign and trade our players that are free agents or have an option. I could see a Hero + Dragic + future 2nd round pick in a sign and trade for Ball. That way we can still keep Duncan. It makes us younger and better defensively but still we need size. Maybe make a trade for Love? We would also need a backup pg.

Ball
Butler
Duncan
Love
Bam.

This gives us spacing. We would need a combo guard, back up pg and a backup PF/C

Ball isn't worth that, he's never been worth that. Dude was uneven as hell in a contract year. For all the complaints, we love mediocrity. Let's bring a PG that can only operate on the break to the slowest offense in the league.

contract · Post #298 » by **contract** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 11:27 am

Vertical Limit wrote:
contract wrote:
Heat3 wrote:
Nah, He cant even get on the court there now.

At 22: the future of our franchise.

At 24: too broken to replace broken Iggy for the NBA minimum.

That is some world class underachieving. You'd think he got run over by a tank.

Sad prt is everyone had us taking Booker that draft... but we outsmarted ourselves by falling for Winslow because the “experts” around the league had him at a higher grade and he was supposably going to be the fourth player taken...

Passed up a million first round picks from the Celtics and then took the wrong guy. :nonono:

RexBoyWonder · Post #299 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 12:20 pm

Truth is there aren't many game changers out there this offseason. Hardly any at all :

Kawhi

Lowry
Norman Powell
Dinwiddie

Derozen (bad fit)
Ball (bad fit)
Hardaway Jr.

Collins is a restricted free agent.
CP3 will demand a huge deal

It is what it is. We need a miracle. We need chemistry, internal growth, and probably patience.

dagger151 · Post #300 » by **dagger151** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 12:44 pm

Riley makes things happen, but landing a whale without trading Jimmy or Bam isnt going to happen when we have no pick to trade. We cant overreact on how this season ended. The team was clearly gassed, you can tell by the energy level they displayed and how shots were coming up short. No legs, no basket. We have a solid core, we need some more scorers, spacer, and size.

I can easily see Pat bringing in THJ at a reasonable price. Dinwiddie would fit well. Lowry if he took maybe a 2/$32M and have Dragic back him up for 2/$20M.

I think Jimmy is getting his extension and if we dont plan on that we have to trade him. I dont like that idea, Jimmy is a baller and the kind of player we need on this team, but if there are no plans to extend, get somethign of value thats younger and send him to a contender where he can have a chance to win.

Anyone like the idea of Cam Payne?