Damian Lillard

[spree2kawhi]

Dame is a great player to have but you have to build around to counter his weakness which is defense.

Doesnt look like he wants to leave POR. That makes it rather easy as its one of the tasks that can be scratched off the Knicks to-do list.

If they hire Kidd, Melo will be reunited with his former teammate and now, coach.

What really separates Curry from him is his play off the ball. This is why you win with players like Curry, Klay, Kawhi and Booker and why it's so hard to win with Westbrook, Harden and apparently Lillard too.

To me Lillard is a top 5-10 talent in the league, but I disagree with anyone claiming his supporting cast was bad. His team was stacked this year.

[god shammgod]

Kawhi doesn't come to team up with RJ and Randle. But with Dame and Randle? That changes the calculus dramatically. I also think Dames game is not based on freak explosion and athleticism and will age well kind of like Curry. Though a bit older he is also not more injury prone like AD and Kyrie either.

A big 3 of Dame, Kawhi and Randle with Thibs coaching and a half decent supporting team has a pretty good shot to beat a year older Nets squad and the Bucks.

Lastly, do you think the 500 or so Nets fans out there are complaining that they give up all those players and picks to form their big 3 right now? I sure wouldn't be

both the lakers and nets built their teams by doing what people claim is horrible. the lakers won and the nets are about to. it's not happening anyway so everybody can calm down. we'll toil away in mediocrity for years like everyone seemingly prefers.

[will]

Lillard is staying with Portland.

The Knicks have absolutely nothing of value to offer Portland for Dame. Nothing.

Stay the course with the rebuild.

[snadler]

Lillard is staying with Portland.

The Knicks have absolutely nothing of value to offer Portland for Dame. Nothing.

Stay the course with the rebuild.

Saying they shouldn’t trade for lillard is one thing, saying they have absolutely nothing of value to offer is ignorant

[ENYK]

Lillard is staying with Portland.

The Knicks have absolutely nothing of value to offer Portland for Dame. Nothing.

Stay the course with the rebuild.

Saying they shouldn’t trade for lillard is one thing, saying they have absolutely nothing of value to offer is ignorant

The Knicks have a bunch of okay assets. We'd literally have to give them all away to get Dame here--it's not like we have a single proven guy on a rookie contract that we can package with filler and a few pick sweeteners.

It would really f*** us like the king's ransom the Clippers paid to OKC for Paul George.

[will]

Lillard is staying with Portland.

The Knicks have absolutely nothing of value to offer Portland for Dame. Nothing.

Stay the course with the rebuild.

Saying they shouldn’t trade for lillard is one thing, saying they have absolutely nothing of value to offer is ignorant

It's true.

Would literally have to deal away everyone outside of RJ and Julius Randle - assuming he is resigned. Even with all of THAT, I find it difficult to believe Portland even entertains it.

Now, if there are multiple first round picks being discussed...that's a different conversation.

[Huey Freeman]

Lillard is staying with Portland.

The Knicks have absolutely nothing of value to offer Portland for Dame. Nothing.

Stay the course with the rebuild.

Exactly. Especially now if POR hires Chauncey Billups or Jason Kidd.

The most realistic or likely player that will be jettison is CJ McCollum who is owed $30MM, $33MM, $35MM over the next 3 seasons going forward. He's not a good defender but can get his shot off, score in isolation, and is a threat that could get you 30pts on any given night. Would make doubling Julius less effective but he's not a #1 option. Would he be a "nut" once becoming a Knick? As of today, I would think he'd be easier to get than Beal because POR has to know that backcourt isn't going anywhere deep now going forward.

[Ray Williams]

Lillard is staying with Portland.

The Knicks have absolutely nothing of value to offer Portland for Dame. Nothing.

Stay the course with the rebuild.

Nothing of value is how I would describe your opinion, He is on the wrong side of 30, hasn’t won crap in Portland, and multiple first round picks are of no value. MORON.

[will]

Lillard is staying with Portland.

The Knicks have absolutely nothing of value to offer Portland for Dame. Nothing.

Stay the course with the rebuild.

Nothing of value is how I would describe your opinion, he’s on the wrong side of 30, hasn’t won crap with Portland, but multiple first round picks aren’t of value. MORON.

Fair play to you, Sir. Getting personal on a message board in a conversation achieves nothing.

The Knicks once again giving up multiple first round picks...round and round the Knicks go.

[Ray Williams]

Lillard is staying with Portland.

The Knicks have absolutely nothing of value to offer Portland for Dame. Nothing.

Stay the course with the rebuild.

Nothing of value is how I would describe your opinion, he’s on the wrong side of 30, hasn’t won crap with Portland, but multiple first round picks aren’t of value. MORON.

Fair play to you, Sir. Getting personal on a message board in a conversation achieves nothing.

The Knicks once again giving up multiple first round picks...round and round the Knicks go.

Trolling another teams message board with dumbass opinions achieves what? FU

[snadler]

Here’s something many fans don’t understand..you can’t keep all your draft picks, there aren’t enough roster spots the Knicks basically have 3 first round picks in this years draft, and they aren’t going to have 1/4 of their roster filled with draft picks.. the Knicks will either trade some of them to move up or trade some for a player..this stupid take about trading picks is once again ignorant. The Knicks have way more picks than roster spots..please get a clue

[will]

Nothing of value is how I would describe your opinion, he’s on the wrong side of 30, hasn’t won crap with Portland, but multiple first round picks aren’t of value. MORON.

Fair play to you, Sir. Getting personal on a message board in a conversation achieves nothing.

The Knicks once again giving up multiple first round picks...round and round the Knicks go.

Trolling another teams message board with dumbass opinions achieves what? FU

From time to time, I do post on the Knicks board, yes.

Simply engaging in some conversation here on the board. There is absolutely no trolling. I tend to keep it moving if I disagree. Or, I choose to debate or provide a rebuttal free of insults.

Yes. Understood. My opinions are trash.

[Oscirus]

Lastly, do you think the 500 or so Nets fans out there are complaining that they give up all those players and picks to form their big 3 right now? I sure wouldn't be

You mean the team that already had irving and durant in place and who were definitely in win now mode? Im sure they weren't.

[Oscirus]

Here’s something many fans don’t understand..you can’t keep all your draft picks, there aren’t enough roster spots the Knicks basically have 3 first round picks in this years draft, and they aren’t going to have 1/4 of their roster filled with draft picks.. the Knicks will either trade some of them to move up or trade some for a player..this stupid take about trading picks is once again ignorant. The Knicks have way more picks than roster spots..please get a clue

then combine picks and move up. This isnt even about keeping them all. it's about wasting them on the wrong deal

[nedleeds]

He can't walk or lift a jug of milk right now? Do you know Tomb Thibs is our coach? He destroyed our two "best" players this year and even rode a fossil like Rose to 35+ minutes. Chris Paul will be in a body bag by Christmas, and he's just not coming to play for a grinder like Thibs no older player is.

There are players of all different levels of influence in the nba. And I'm not talking bout skill cause for the purpose of this argument you gotta be a superstar or at least a star. But even amongst the top two tiers of talented players there are only a handful of players that simply dominate a team. The court, the lockers, the beat writers, the local media, the front office. Lebron is one of them, I guess I gotta say KD is one of them. You can probably name only a couple more but CP3 is one of them.

Thibs don't tell CP3 to play defense, CP3 tells Thibs to run him a defensive play. He don't tell him to play harder, CP3 says everyone to play harder. He's self directed. And it's a damn good thing he's self directed in pretty much the exact things Thibs wants. But know this, Paul is the alpha. If he wants to rest he'll get a rest and if he needs to load management he'll load manage.

Randle would've got curse TF out this series and forced to rise to the occasion.

Best part of CP3 is not gutting the team.
We only have assets to get 1 star player.
We are more than 1 player away.

None of you can answer why exactly Conley or Paul would leave the 1 or 2 seed who are still playing to come to a bad / mediocre at best New York Knicks team coached by a taskmaster?

It's what outsiders make fun of Knicks fans for doing, thinking anybody wants to come here because we almost won 20 years ago. There's no other top 20 player on the roster. Paul can just play with Booker and Ayton and be a top 2 seed again, be a quick flight from his family and not move .... oh for $45 million for ONE SEASON. Conley is on the #1 seeded Jazz. Why the hell would he come to NY to be the 7th seed and get blasted by the Bucks.

[Oscirus]

There are players of all different levels of influence in the nba. And I'm not talking bout skill cause for the purpose of this argument you gotta be a superstar or at least a star. But even amongst the top two tiers of talented players there are only a handful of players that simply dominate a team. The court, the lockers, the beat writers, the local media, the front office. Lebron is one of them, I guess I gotta say KD is one of them. You can probably name only a couple more but CP3 is one of them.

Thibs don't tell CP3 to play defense, CP3 tells Thibs to run him a defensive play. He don't tell him to play harder, CP3 says everyone to play harder. He's self directed. And it's a damn good thing he's self directed in pretty much the exact things Thibs wants. But know this, Paul is the alpha. If he wants to rest he'll get a rest and if he needs to load management he'll load manage.

Randle would've got curse TF out this series and forced to rise to the occasion.

Best part of CP3 is not gutting the team.
We only have assets to get 1 star player.
We are more than 1 player away.

None of you can answer why exactly Conley or Paul would leave the 1 or 2 seed who are still playing to come to a bad / mediocre at best New York Knicks team coached by a taskmaster?

It's what outsiders make fun of Knicks fans for doing, thinking anybody wants to come here because we almost won 20 years ago. There's no other top 20 player on the roster. Paul can just play with Booker and Ayton and be a top 2 seed again, be a quick flight from his family and not move .... oh for $45 million for ONE SEASON. Conley is on the #1 seeded Jazz. Why the hell would he come to NY to be the 7th seed and get blasted by the Bucks.

Just being an acshually guy here but paul is def opting out for a longer deal. That being said, you're right they're probs not leaving barring a massive overpay. Not sure if Id do it or not but it is something to consider

[will]

Best part of CP3 is not gutting the team.
We only have assets to get 1 star player.
We are more than 1 player away.

None of you can answer why exactly Conley or Paul would leave the 1 or 2 seed who are still playing to come to a bad / mediocre at best New York Knicks team coached by a taskmaster?

It's what outsiders make fun of Knicks fans for doing, thinking anybody wants to come here because we almost won 20 years ago. There's no other top 20 player on the roster. Paul can just play with Booker and Ayton and be a top 2 seed again, be a quick flight from his family and not move .... oh for $45 million for ONE SEASON. Conley is on the #1 seeded Jazz. Why the hell would he come to NY to be the 7th seed and get blasted by the Bucks.

Just being an acshually guy here but paul is def opting out for a longer deal. That being said, you're right they're probs not leaving barring a massive overpay. Not sure if Id do it or not but it is something to consider

CP3 allegedly looking for something in the area of 3 years/$100 mil.

[nedleeds]

None of you can answer why exactly Conley or Paul would leave the 1 or 2 seed who are still playing to come to a bad / mediocre at best New York Knicks team coached by a taskmaster?

It's what outsiders make fun of Knicks fans for doing, thinking anybody wants to come here because we almost won 20 years ago. There's no other top 20 player on the roster. Paul can just play with Booker and Ayton and be a top 2 seed again, be a quick flight from his family and not move .... oh for $45 million for ONE SEASON. Conley is on the #1 seeded Jazz. Why the hell would he come to NY to be the 7th seed and get blasted by the Bucks.

Just being an acshually guy here but paul is def opting out for a longer deal. That being said, you're right they're probs not leaving barring a massive overpay. Not sure if Id do it or not but it is something to consider

CP3 allegedly looking for something in the area of 3 years/$100 mil.

Lol. He'll be 39. So why wouldn't Phoenix just pay him that if he gets them to the WCF or the Finals? And why wouldn't he just want to keep going to the finals instead of being Bobcats 2.0 in New York?

[will]

Just being an acshually guy here but paul is def opting out for a longer deal. That being said, you're right they're probs not leaving barring a massive overpay. Not sure if Id do it or not but it is something to consider

CP3 allegedly looking for something in the area of 3 years/$100 mil.

Lol. He'll be 39. So why wouldn't Phoenix just pay him that if he gets them to the WCF or the Finals? And why wouldn't he just want to keep going to the finals instead of being Bobcats 2.0 in New York?

It would be foolish for an NBA team to open up the cheque book for that.

[blueNorange]

giving up the farm for Dame puts him in the same position he's in now.

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it's remarkable that people think dame, randle, and even kawhi along with 10 players as bad as theo pinson and as good as jared dudley filling out the bench is worth it.