MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021

[twix2500]

Robinson would be a fool to sign for that lol, but he would immediately become an asset.

Joe Harris 4/75
Fournier 5/85

Thats only 3 mill less than Harris per year on average. I can see him getting less than those two. Harris is getting 16 mill this season it goes up a mill per yr. Basically its 18 mill for Harris 15 for Robinson. Not a huge difference. Same with Fournier, his is basically 17 mill per yr.

$50 mil / 4 years = $12.5 mil per for Robinson ... you probably meant $60 mil / 4 years.

My bad I thought I typed 60. That's what I meant.

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[BenoUdrihFTL]

Only way I'd re-sign Duncan to $20 per is if it's a S&T used to match salaries in a trade

[twix2500]

So Ethan is saying that the Heat seems to be willing pay long term money now not worrying about cap in the future. That they are not gonna let a player go else where because of years like they did with Gallinari, Crowder and Morris.

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[eddieheatfan]

Things got real for us.

what happened?

We suck again and Knicks want to mess with us over Nunn

dont feel bad maybe he will resign with the heat or the heat will move on on to better things (hopefully)

besides, he's not a pretty consistent player.

[twix2500]

what happened?

We suck again and Knicks want to mess with us over Nunn

dont feel bad maybe he will resign with the heat or the heat will move on on to better things (hopefully)

besides, he's not a pretty consistent player.

As a role player Nunn been pretty consistent this season. After the early slow start, he has been pretty steady.

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[AirP.]

Not saying that will not happen. It can very well happen. But I think it is a good chance he gets lower than Kennard, Harris or Fortier. I am not sure that the league sees him better than those three when they got paid.

If Robinson is projected to get 20 million a year I'd rather spend 5 million more and have Lowry for the next 2 years, move Butler to SF, start Herro at SG. Just find a big opposite of Bam who can shoot 3s. Would love to see a sign and trade of Robinson in a package for someone like M.Turner.

I'd also resign Oladipo to a 1+1 if the medical staff projects him to be a good risk, either go cheap with a player option, or a give him a decent(not big) contract with a team option like Miami did with Dragic(probably not that much if he's projected to miss most of the year), both contracts are really only 1 year situations, are safe risks for each party and lets Miami retain Bird rights.

I am not sure how a team can justify paying a player 20 mill for 12 points. Not saying it will not happen. But....

Well, 12 points in 4 games for Miami with 2 of those games with 0 practice with the team vs him having averaging 20 and 21.2 for the 2 other teams he played with this year. You have to look at it in context.

Is it possible that the money Miami doesn't spend on Oladipo can acquire a 2 way player who has the ability to put 20 ppg? I get the people who are worried about injuries, that's why you pay a medical staff to get their expert opinions from.

This situation with Oladipo is a HUGE fork in the road for Miami, Miami could invest decent money long term(3-4 years with a team option of course) and get burned with injuries, invest long term for under a healthy market value for him and get a player at a great value, be very safe and sign short term to keep his Bird rights then possibly pay him fair market value tor retain him if he proves he's healthy. To me, I lean HEAVILY on my medical staff to decide but people need to understand, not resigning him doesn't mean you'll end up using that money on anyone near his level if/when healthy. It is a gamble but a healthy Oladipo is at least the 3rd best player on the Heat's current roster and actually could be in the top 2 since he'd be the team's scorer.

Everything is a chance, like for instance I lean heavily that Herro will never be an all-star but that doesn't mean I couldn't see it happening.

[contract]

If Robinson is projected to get 20 million a year I'd rather spend 5 million more and have Lowry for the next 2 years, move Butler to SF, start Herro at SG. Just find a big opposite of Bam who can shoot 3s. Would love to see a sign and trade of Robinson in a package for someone like M.Turner.

I'd also resign Oladipo to a 1+1 if the medical staff projects him to be a good risk, either go cheap with a player option, or a give him a decent(not big) contract with a team option like Miami did with Dragic(probably not that much if he's projected to miss most of the year), both contracts are really only 1 year situations, are safe risks for each party and lets Miami retain Bird rights.

I am not sure how a team can justify paying a player 20 mill for 12 points. Not saying it will not happen. But....

Well, 12 points in 4 games for Miami with 2 of those games with 0 practice with the team vs him having averaging 20 and 21.2 for the 2 other teams he played with this year. You have to look at it in context.

Is it possible that the money Miami doesn't spend on Oladipo can acquire a 2 way player who has the ability to put 20 ppg? I get the people who are worried about injuries, that's why you pay a medical staff to get their expert opinions from.

This situation with Oladipo is a HUGE fork in the road for Miami, Miami could invest decent money long term(3-4 years with a team option of course) and get burned with injuries, invest long term for under a healthy market value for him and get a player at a great value, be very safe and sign short term to keep his Bird rights then possibly pay him fair market value tor retain him if he proves he's healthy. To me, I lean HEAVILY on my medical staff to decide but people need to understand, not resigning him doesn't mean you'll end up using that money on anyone near his level if/when healthy. It is a gamble but a healthy Oladipo is at least the 3rd best player on the Heat's current roster and actually could be in the top 2 since he'd be the team's scorer.

Everything is a chance, like for instance I lean heavily that Herro will never be an all-star but that doesn't mean I couldn't see it happening.

We shouldn't want Dipo to be our scorer. He is inefficient. He's like Mion without the piss poor attitude and overinflated ego. It's been 4 years since his great season. Veteran minimum or cut bait.

[HEATVols865]

Trade Bam and Herro for Dame!


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[Wiltside]

Oh chit Herro Balls called it! Daddy Herro indeed.

[MettaWorldPanda]

We talk S&T deals all willy nilly in here and yet they are very rare https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2019/06/why-nba-sign-and-trades-are-rare-2.html

Here goes my thinking heading into the offseason. We renounce everyone not named Duncan and Nunn who are low capped restricted free agents. We take whatever money we have in cap space and try to get a player to come down here. Most likely it's going to be Kyle Lowry or Spencer Dinwiddie with whatever cap space we have for the next few years to run the PG spot. Use the Mid Level exception on a big. Probably looking at players such as Bobby Portis, Serge Ibaka, Daniel Theis, and JaMychal Green. Resign Dewayne Dedmon for vet minimum. Hope and pray that Precious Achuiwa can be a rotation PF. That's right a PF and not have to play one damn minute at Center. Same goes for KZ Okpala. Have to hope he can give us anything from the SF spot. If Miami plays it smart with it's midlevel it may have some money left over to give Dipo to rehab and hope he comes back healthy. Max Strus deserves to come back on a minimum deal. The rest is balancing cap gymnastics. For the most part at this point your probably having to match Robinson and Nunn in order to fill out of the roster. Nunn becomes the backup PG and Robinson is back to duke it out with Herro for the starting two guard spot again. This unless Miami identifies a quality S&T that brings back a rotation player. Probably not considering how hard it is to match salaries and quickly put trading team into the hard apron. Miami will have Nunn and Robinson on healthy deals but will probably view there contracts as trade assets for a bigger player that may come free. It's not easy matching salaries for higher end players and you almost need a few bad contracts to get something done.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Oh chit Herro Balls called it! Daddy Herro indeed.

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This is what was weighing on Tyler's mind all season. Hopefully now that it's out in the open he can focus on the game again.

[Umbooki]

Boy Wonder better come back with Dad Strength and reflexes.

[twix2500]

Oh chit Herro Balls called it! Daddy Herro indeed.

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This is what was weighing on Tyler's mind all season. Hopefully now that it's out in the open he can focus on the game again.

So I was right he got her knocked up quick. I think I heard about it in December I think

[twix2500]

Boy Wonder better come back with Dad Strength and reflexes.

**** if her being pregnancy was a distraction, how is he gonna handle it when the baby is here??

[Kobewade11]

So Ethan is saying that the Heat seems to be willing pay long term money now not worrying about cap in the future. That they are not gonna let a player go else where because of years like they did with Gallinari, Crowder and Morris.

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I wouldnt have gone years on any of those players

[MettaWorldPanda]

Boy Wonder better come back with Dad Strength and reflexes.

**** if her being pregnancy was a distraction, how is he gonna handle it when the baby is here??

Give the kid a break. He's only 21 years old. Lots of pressure on a soon to be young dad.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Really like the idea of Daniel Theis as our secondary big next to Bam next year. He's rugged and can hit the outside shot. Not the ideal stretch 4 but I'll take everything else he brings.

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[marson]

Hopefully we can match Duncan's QO on a reasonable price then try to sign Lowry, Theis and McConnell.

Starting 5 would be

Theis / Dedmon
Bam / Okpala
Butler / Struss / Okpala
Robinson / Herro
Lowry / McConnell

Please bring back Dedmon in cheap.

[Beenie]

Dunc gets 4/80+ easy

For a guy who hasn’t been playable at the end of games, Mia would have to feel some optimism that Duncan will eventually become an ‘end of game option’ to justify signing him to that number.

[AirP.]

We shouldn't want Dipo to be our scorer. He is inefficient. He's like Mion without the piss poor attitude and overinflated ego. It's been 4 years since his great season. Veteran minimum or cut bait.

Sorry, I want a guy who can create his own shot for the playoffs, I'm tired of watching Miami's offense look like ()#W$)( unless their one way players are hitting 3s. If Oladipo wasn't a good defender I'd be with you but I'd likee to see Butler and Bam with a near full rotation of 2 way players with only a couple of roleplaying 3pt shooters.

Once again... resigning Oladipo is completely up to what the medical staff says, he's been playing at less then 100% ever since his big injury. I don't care if he may never reach his apex, I just want him to be a 20 ppg 2 way player to go along with Butler and Bam.