Stotts UPDATE: pg 8 Woj: Stotts, Blazers agree to part ways. PG10: Dame wants Kidd.

[Norm2953]

My problems with Stotts were not personal for no question he's a great guy but nine years is a long
time to be in one place and after a while, the guys tend to tune him out for they have heard it
all before. Likely there will be other jobs opening up, if he wants one but let's hope he takes a
year off to recharge his batteries.

[wco81]

How many coaches has NO hired?

[Wickzki]

I wish I knew more about high level coaching to say what qualities exactly are needed, but unfortunately I don't. Maybe Billups or Kidd have what we need and I'm ignorant. I think Stott's was pretty good at X's and O's - at least offensively, we would often run complex plays - but he also allowed too much of the "baller" mentality of allowing heat checks, one on one's and other types of plays that really aren't coached situations. And I believe that comes from Damian and his sway within the team, as Damian likes to play that way. And they are human, they have to be allowed creativity at their craft, I don't want to take away all of that, but I feel Stott's lost the ability to put the clamps on it.

And I fear whatever coach comes "Damian approved" will just exacerbate this issue. We need someone with the persona and mandate to push back and improve our discipline one both ends of the court. I'm sure you will like this take but we could literally take away half or more of those low-IQ plays and run them through Nurkic, he is turnover prone (which you need experience to correct!) but some of our best ball-movement comes when he touches the ball.

NBA head coaching is more dependent on motivational and stewardship qualities and buy in than X's and O's (or so I was told by a former head coach who's head coaching failure was related to a loss of buy in from his key players).

Assistant coaches are predominantly your X's and O's coaches and important in that regard. For example, Phil Jackson's teams always had Tex Winters while Phil was superb at conveying the message and getting the best of his charges.

Billups, as a player, motivated his teammates better than just about any player of his era. He had all of the intangibles as an on court leader that translates well to coaching.

His success as a head coach will be dependent on the quality of his assistants.

[Wickzki]

How many coaches has NO hired?

2. Del Negro at the Clippers and Stotts at the Blazers

[PDXKnight]

How many coaches has NO hired?

2. Del Negro at the Clippers and Stotts at the Blazers

VDN was a disaster & Terry was likely more pa since the Vulcans control everything

[PDXKnight]

My problems with Stotts were not personal for no question he's a great guy but nine years is a long
time to be in one place and after a while, the guys tend to tune him out for they have heard it
all before. Likely there will be other jobs opening up, if he wants one but let's hope he takes a
year off to recharge his batteries.

Would probably be good for him especially if nothing exciting comes up. But it may be easier said than done as I think Stotts truly loves coaching

[monopoman]

I mean really they might give NO a year or two more but he is on thin ice also, acting like since they didn't announce a GM firing the same day as Stotts that they think NO is great and will keep him for the next decade no matter what is a joke.

I think Stotts was the bigger problem and this series clearly shows why.

[soobias]

imho somehow i feel like about 15%-20% fault lies on stotts and 80-85% is/was on NO and the players.
if you look around the league most players control teams (unless they're young teams).
to me its about player movement and ball movement, and with cj and nurk to a certain extent. blazers seemed to have little of it and it always shows up in the play-offs. to me the team looked like it was flowing better when those 2 were hurt.
players need to stop worrying about their touches and numbers and think about team 1st.(that's how Miami looked last year in the playoffs and phoenix,Utah,philli,Brooklyn looked all season. and to me thats what the warriors successful for 5+ years.
there's enough young guard talent going around where we don't need a "all star" (cj) on the team, oh wait he's never been one just paid like one lol.

[Wickzki]

When the Blazers don't miraculously transform into a title contender under the next coach, ownership has only one way to go. That's to fire Olshey. The problem with that is that whoever they replace Olshey with and name the new general manager will want to be involved in the hiring decisions and install his own coach.

Essentially, unless the Blazers get very lucky here we are going to get a second coaching change in the space of a couple of seasons (maybe within a 12-15 month window).

For some of you, that may not be an issue but frankly, it means that the Dame Era is effectively on borrowed time already.

[Epicurus]

imho somehow i feel like about 15%-20% fault lies on stotts and 80-85% is/was on NO and the players.
if you look around the league most players control teams (unless they're young teams).
to me its about player movement and ball movement, and with cj and nurk to a certain extent. blazers seemed to have little of it and it always shows up in the play-offs. to me the team looked like it was flowing better when those 2 were hurt.
players need to stop worrying about their touches and numbers and think about team 1st.(that's how Miami looked last year in the playoffs and phoenix,Utah,philli,Brooklyn looked all season. and to me thats what the warriors successful for 5+ years.
there's enough young guard talent going around where we don't need a "all star" (cj) on the team, oh wait he's never been one just paid like one lol.

Teams with high ball movement ( I assume you mean passes) and/ or player movement have not been found better or worse than ones with lower. Nylon Calculus did an excellent study on offensive styles of teams. Their conclusion was "(A)l.gain, the most important takeaway here is that playing a particular style is less correlated with success than having talent and skill and designing a system that highlights that talent and skill." https://fansided.com/2021/04/08/nylon-calculus-nba-teams-offensive-style-2020-21/

I would suggest that is exactly what the Blazers have done, have a system that highlights, nurtures, and facilitate the abnormal offensive talents of two ball handling guards who can get and make their own shots. I don't see the opportunity costs of this offensive style given the offensive talents of the other players. One size does not fit all. There is no one RIGHT offensive style to create more points per possessions, no matter what some junior high coach told us or we took from many watching of " Hoosiers."

[PDXKnight]

I didn’t know vanterpool hasn’t been a head coach yet. Might not be a bad option

[DusterBuster]

Kidd has withdrawn his name from considerations for Blazers gig per Woj (with direct quotes from Kidd saying he’s not going to pursue the job).

Thanks Jason, much appreciated!!

[PDXKnight]

Kidd has withdrawn his name from considerations for Blazers gig per Woj (with direct quotes from Kidd saying he’s not going to pursue the job).

Thanks Jason, much appreciated!!

Wonder if Kidd thinks he’s better than Portland or if he got the cold shoulder? Whatever the case Thank God he’s not gonna pursue the job!

[DusterBuster]

Kidd has withdrawn his name from considerations for Blazers gig per Woj (with direct quotes from Kidd saying he’s not going to pursue the job).

Thanks Jason, much appreciated!!

Wonder if Kidd thinks he’s better than Portland or if he got the cold shoulder? Whatever the case Thank God he’s not gonna pursue the job!

Dwight Jaynes suggested it could have been a “I’m not fired, I quit!” situation that he was never going to be seriously considered by the organization. I have to imagine the team saw the backlash online as well. The whole thing just had drama up and down written on it. Dame has also never been through a coaching search, so I think I’m coming out and publicly saying he wanted Kidd may have been less a power move and more just inexperience that you don’t really do that cause it puts the team and candidate in an awkward position for interviewing other candidates.

[PDXKnight]

Kidd has withdrawn his name from considerations for Blazers gig per Woj (with direct quotes from Kidd saying he’s not going to pursue the job).

Thanks Jason, much appreciated!!

Wonder if Kidd thinks he’s better than Portland or if he got the cold shoulder? Whatever the case Thank God he’s not gonna pursue the job!

Dwight Jaynes suggested it could have been a “I’m not fired, I quit!” situation that he was never going to be seriously considered by the organization. I have to imagine the team saw the backlash online as well. The whole thing just had drama up and down written on it. Dame has also never been through a coaching search, so I think I’m coming out and publicly saying he wanted Kidd may have been less a power move and more just inexperience that you don’t really do that cause it puts the team and candidate in an awkward position for interviewing other candidates.

yeah Kidd carries much drama. I’m thinking we can potentially eliminate chauncey at this point too with the rape allegations in his past. I just can’t see it happening. Thats way too much bad pr especially in today’s mass media/ instant news culture

Who does this leave? Juwan Howard, Vanterpool, Steve clifford (yuck), Joerger please at least give him an interview, Gentry is probably worth interviewing but he had first round issues

[kdawg32086]

What does everyone think about the potential of Billups being the guy? Who would you want on his staff?

[GEE]

I mentioned a while back how I thought the wisdom of a HOF level PG like Kidd might help Dame take another leap forward. I think Becky Hammon has that same PG mindset that could have a similar effect. I think there's a clear difference in mindset between a PG and SG, and I feel Dame struggles having to find the right balance.

Excited and nervous over who Stott's successor will be. I really hope Olshey makes a smart hire, and doesn't rush into some sexy, big-name, has-been.

[DusterBuster]

What does everyone think about the potential of Billups being the guy? Who would you want on his staff?

It’s always a big question mark when it comes to ex player with no coaching experience.

That said, I like Billups as a potential candidate. As long as he has a strong X’s and O’s staff, I think he can be on par with a Doc Rivers type. He would really command the locker room well I think.

If the Blazers are going the ex-player route like Dame wants, I think Billups or Howard would be good choices.

I would personally really like D’Antoni, I think Dame would lead the league in scoring under Mike without much question, but doesn’t do much to improve the defense.

[HoopsFanAZ]

Maybe Kidd learned he’s not in the running and everyone saves face. That would be reasonable.

Pick me out a winner, Olshey.

[Norm2953]

Kidd has been around long enough to understand job security for a coach oftentimes rests upon who
has control over personnel. Very possible Stotts only had minimal say on personnel matters and was
never given a say on the groceries he was given and whoever is going to get the job is going to have
fight really hard to get power from NO. Don't be surprised if Billups ends up dropping out of
consideration if he is not given some say for he's not going to want to be here if his job security
rests on Dame.