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DaGawd wrote:robillionaire wrote:The whole discussion is pointless anyway because it’s not happening
Better chance of Butler+Kawhi imo and that’s probably not happening either
This. I got no more energy for this topic until we know more about how readily available Dame or Kawhi really are.
dc wrote:This isn't a situation where Portland has to do anything or is under siege in any way.
They have all the leverage in any negotiation. They have him under contract for the next 4 seasons at ages 31-34.....i.e. basically the remainder of his prime.
They don't have to move him. It's not a situation where Lillard can threaten to not re-sign next summer or anything like that. The can get full value for him in any trade.
Magic#1 wrote:We have won two playoff games in two years. If we decide to keep this team for the next two years, maybe it will feel like we won a series.
Zerostatic wrote:I can't believe some of you are hesitant on acquiring Damian Lillard. You guys are probably the same people that were "worried" about giving Durant a max contract (due to his injury) and also getting Harden because he's a cancer. Now the Nets are contenders with those two guys while we got smoked in the first round with our over-achieving group of role players.
IMO, our GM should have a list of the top 30 players in the league on their wall and if any of those guys become available, you go out and get them. Obviously, there's a price where it becomes too much. Lillard is 32 but even a declining Lillard is way better than anything we've had at the PG spot in a long time.
Imagine if the Clips lose tomorrow and Kawhi opts out. Signing Kawhi and trading for Lillard and hanging onto to Randle means we'd become a contender right away. Some of you would rather toil in mediocrity.
nedleeds wrote:Davis18 wrote:Nazrmohamed wrote:
There are players of all different levels of influence in the nba. And I'm not talking bout skill cause for the purpose of this argument you gotta be a superstar or at least a star. But even amongst the top two tiers of talented players there are only a handful of players that simply dominate a team. The court, the lockers, the beat writers, the local media, the front office. Lebron is one of them, I guess I gotta say KD is one of them. You can probably name only a couple more but CP3 is one of them.
Thibs don't tell CP3 to play defense, CP3 tells Thibs to run him a defensive play. He don't tell him to play harder, CP3 says everyone to play harder. He's self directed. And it's a damn good thing he's self directed in pretty much the exact things Thibs wants. But know this, Paul is the alpha. If he wants to rest he'll get a rest and if he needs to load management he'll load manage.
Randle would've got curse TF out this series and forced to rise to the occasion.
Best part of CP3 is not gutting the team.
We only have assets to get 1 star player.
We are more than 1 player away.
None of you can answer why exactly Conley or Paul would leave the 1 or 2 seed who are still playing to come to a bad / mediocre at best New York Knicks team coached by a taskmaster?
It's what outsiders make fun of Knicks fans for doing, thinking anybody wants to come here because we almost won 20 years ago. There's no other top 20 player on the roster. Paul can just play with Booker and Ayton and be a top 2 seed again, be a quick flight from his family and not move .... oh for $45 million for ONE SEASON. Conley is on the #1 seeded Jazz. Why the hell would he come to NY to be the 7th seed and get blasted by the Bucks.
Zerostatic wrote:I can't believe some of you are hesitant on acquiring Damian Lillard. You guys are probably the same people that were "worried" about giving Durant a max contract (due to his injury) and also getting Harden because he's a cancer. Now the Nets are contenders with those two guys while we got smoked in the first round with our over-achieving group of role players.
IMO, our GM should have a list of the top 30 players in the league on their wall and if any of those guys become available, you go out and get them. Obviously, there's a price where it becomes too much. Lillard is 32 but even a declining Lillard is way better than anything we've had at the PG spot in a long time.
Imagine if the Clips lose tomorrow and Kawhi opts out. Signing Kawhi and trading for Lillard and hanging onto to Randle means we'd become a contender right away. Some of you would rather toil in mediocrity.
blueNorange wrote:mpharris36 wrote:blueNorange wrote:this this this this this
it's remarkable that people think dame, randle, and even kawhi along with 10 players as bad as theo pinson and as good as jared dudley filling out the bench is worth it.
you know thats not how it works. If you had Kawhi/Dame/Randle you would easily get ring chasing vets. It happens all the time. It wont be theo pinson level players and you know it.
now if you telling me to sell the farm for Dame without another player coming (and its just Randle and Dame). Then I 100% agree.
If you get Kawhi though its a no brainer. You talking about adding two top 10 players in the entire NBA.
they are not better than the nets
or the sixers or the bucks, and if the hawks find a way to re-sign john collins they're probably not even better than them sinnce the hawks have depth.
Jimmit79 wrote:At this point I want RJ to get paid