Olshey

[GEE]

I am not going to disagree with you DBR, you may very well be right. But Olshey has been able to survive, for now. It's a tough choice for her. We knew Terry would fall, but could Oshey sell Jody on a new direction was the real question. Clearly he has and we'll soon see what that is, but I have to believe, Olshey's seat is still hot. A nd a quick hiring of Kidd, at the requesting of Dame will shake all optimism I have.

[Epicurus]

Wonder what that " new direction" is. Getting more full sized front court forwards? Having one starting backcourt player capable of holding up at the opponent's point of attack.

[Wizenheimer]

Our major failures are Olshey's fault, the reason the team didn't make the second round is Olshey's fault.


Stotts, like most coaches on underachieving teams, got the scapegoat. That's fine, it was time.


But giving Olshey a shot to make things right is doubling down on a bad bet.

I'd +1000 if I could

[PDXKnight]

Our major failures are Olshey's fault, the reason the team didn't make the second round is Olshey's fault.


Stotts, like most coaches on underachieving teams, got the scapegoat. That's fine, it was time.


But giving Olshey a shot to make things right is doubling down on a bad bet.

yeah it’s insane the leeway he gets. The Used car salesman sure can talk that’s for sure

I'd +1000 if I could

[DusterBuster]

Our major failures are Olshey's fault, the reason the team didn't make the second round is Olshey's fault.


Stotts, like most coaches on underachieving teams, got the scapegoat. That's fine, it was time.


But giving Olshey a shot to make things right is doubling down on a bad bet.

This is pretty much where I'm at. I'm not nearly as down on Olshey as most, but I do believe that part of moving in a new direction should be a new coach AND new GM. If the Blazers are going to try and do something to maximize the most out of Dame's last few years, they really really really need to go big. If that means moving CJ and Nurk in a deal, you do it.

I believed the time to take that risk was this season when Harden was available and willing to come to Portland, but that never happened. We'll never know if it was Olshey not willing to make the move or the Rockets maybe just refusing to keep Harden in the western conference, but there's no question that if Olshey wanted to swing big to pair Dame with another true MVP caliber player, he could have beat that dumpster-fire deal the Rockets ended up with from the Nets.

I would like to believe Olshey did offer it, the Rockets turned it down, and all the "CJ is untouchable" talk in public was just to kill any rumors and possible lockerroom problems. I do think that happens more than we like to believe, but we'll never know for sure.

But yeah anyhow, I really wish we could somehow get Ainge to take over for Olshey, but that seems pretty unlikely. Sounds like Ainge is just fully retiring from the NBA, not that he was done with the Celtics gig.

[PDXKnight]

Our major failures are Olshey's fault, the reason the team didn't make the second round is Olshey's fault.


Stotts, like most coaches on underachieving teams, got the scapegoat. That's fine, it was time.


But giving Olshey a shot to make things right is doubling down on a bad bet.

This is pretty much where I'm at. I'm not nearly as down on Olshey as most, but I do believe that part of moving in a new direction should be a new coach AND new GM. If the Blazers are going to try and do something to maximize the most out of Dame's last few years, they really really really need to go big. If that means moving CJ and Nurk in a deal, you do it.

I believed the time to take that risk was this season when Harden was available and willing to come to Portland, but that never happened. We'll never know if it was Olshey not willing to make the move or the Rockets maybe just refusing to keep Harden in the western conference, but there's no question that if Olshey wanted to swing big to pair Dame with another true MVP caliber player, he could have beat that dumpster-fire deal the Rockets ended up with from the Nets.

I would like to believe Olshey did offer it, the Rockets turned it down, and all the "CJ is untouchable" talk in public was just to kill any rumors and possible lockerroom problems. I do think that happens more than we like to believe, but we'll never know for sure.

But yeah anyhow, I really wish we could somehow get Ainge to take over for Olshey, but that seems pretty unlikely. Sounds like Ainge is just fully retiring from the NBA, not that he was done with the Celtics gig.

It’d be cool if we could even get ainge in a jerry west type of role and potentially take over for olshey if he gets fired in a year too

[Case2012]

At this point i just wonder what it would take to actually get Olshey fired? Would he have to spit in Jody Allen’s face? Call Lillard a racial expletive? I mean, FFS, what is it going to take?? Do people care enough that an online petition would go viral? It’s madness. We should crowd fund for a private detective to dig up as much dirt on Olshey as possible and get him “canceled”, like all the kids are doing these days? Ideas?

[HoopsFanAZ]

It may be a low bar (and not accurate with some, here), but I liked this year’s roster better than last year’s. Better than the Aminu years. Not as much as the final LMA year, but not that much less. In other words, it took too long, but it’s gotten back near what was competitive.

It’s not good enough. Olshey knows it. He just isn’t throwing people under the bus who are back next year (Nurkic’s fouls, RoCo’s rim rejections) or are thinking about it (Powell). I’m not even defending Olshey as I’d prefer Ainge. Others. It isn’t going to take a miracle for Olshey to make moves that have the Blazers in contention given the landscape … the parity in the West.

Back-up defensive center. Back-up, scrappy, smart PG. CJ in a package for a forward upgrade. Powell returns. DJJ as a lesser asset for trade purposes or a coach who will use him. Youth that is good to keep and can be traded to upgrade, now.

When the two best players say they weren’t good enough — not just that they lost — it’s time. I am optimistic.

[Epicurus]

Definitely the additions this year were better than the subtractions. The addidtions the previous year were worse than the subtractions. I am not that sure that the additions this year were better than the subtractions of the previous year, however.

[Norm2953]

It may be a low bar (and not accurate with some, here), but I liked this year’s roster better than last year’s. Better than the Aminu years. Not as much as the final LMA year, but not that much less. In other words, it took too long, but it’s gotten back near what was competitive.

It’s not good enough. Olshey knows it. He just isn’t throwing people under the bus who are back next year (Nurkic’s fouls, RoCo’s rim rejections) or are thinking about it (Powell). I’m not even defending Olshey as I’d prefer Ainge. Others. It isn’t going to take a miracle for Olshey to make moves that have the Blazers in contention given the landscape … the parity in the West.
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Back-up defensive center. Back-up, scrappy, smart PG. CJ in a package for a forward upgrade. Powell returns. DJJ as a lesser asset for trade purposes or a coach who will use him. Youth that is good to keep and can be traded to upgrade, now.

When the two best players say they weren’t good enough — not just that they lost — it’s time. I am optimistic.

This year's team was based on the very shaky health of Nurk and Zach Collins. As many have said, NO never got a backup
PG who could initiate the offense with the exception of 2019 when they had Seth Curry. Portland spent their full MLE
on a player that couldn't shoot and was a poor fit in the Stotts offense.

I'm skeptical things will change much unless NO is absolutely forced to make the changes. Whoever is named HC is
going to want a better hand that Stotts got in building a team can win with. Team doctors will have some say on
how much faith the team has in their operational big' s which is why Nurk is so concerned about his future in the club.
I'd actually prefer they kicked NO to the curb as well but that man seems to have nine lives.

[Epicurus]

Th simple point is that the WCF team was significantly lessened via the front office and the injury to Nurcic. Another simple point is that a 50+ (2 years) was dismantled to a large degree by the front office, either the failure to keep Aldrige and the fire sale after that failure. Not a little of these talent lessenings relate to some bizarre contracts offered by the front office.

Want a new direction? Get a new front office (maybe even one which would have chosen the right Collins a few years ago).

[Norm2953]

Th simple point is that the WCF team was significantly lessened via the front office and the injury to Nurcic. Another simple point is that a 50+ (2 years) was dismantled to a large degree by the front office, either the failure to keep Aldrige and the fire sale after that failure. Not a little of these talent lessenings relate to some bizarre contracts offered by the front office.
iWant a new direction? Get a new front office (maybe even one which would have chosen the right Collins a few years ago).

I seem to recall in the workouts in the 2017 draft, Portland had both Bam Adebayo and Donovan Mitchell in for
workouts in addition to John Collins. LA leaving was a personal decision for LA but that 2017 draft was Portland's
chance at building a winner. One can only imagine drafting Mitchell and trading CJ coming off a season where
he averaged 23 PPG, prior to his previous extension, would have in trade much more than they will get
this summer.

[Epicurus]

Twice in 9 years the Blazers were on the porch and then the front office did things , with whatever justification, that put them back on the sidewalk.

[d-train]

Twice in 9 years the Blazers were on the porch and then the front office did things , with whatever justification, that put them back on the sidewalk.

No they didn't. 2015 Olshey had Blazers in position to take a major step forward, Aldridge blew it up when he decided to take less money to go elsewhere. This ruined any chance Blazers had to get a big free agent here when we couldn't even keep our own.

We let Aminu walk in 2019, but not before Stotts essentially benched him in the playoffs. Kanter turned down an offer to stay. There was no way to retain Curry. Whiteside was probably the best half season fill in for Nurk that was possible. He wasn't a good fit, but that could have been different if Collins didn't get hurt. You can't excuse Stotts for injuries, then blame Olshey.

[Epicurus]

Maybe my phrase "with whatever justification" didn't show upon your screen. Good players left and not replaced by equal or greater talent.

[d-train]

Maybe my phrase "with whatever justification" didn't show upon your screen. Good players left and not replaced by equal or greater talent.

You said the front office did things. As if Stotts is being blamed for things the front office did. The front office did everything right for Stotts and the team to have the best success possible. Unfortunately, Stotts is fired. I don't know why he was fired, but I hope it works for everyone.

[Moonbeam]

I suppose we can't know anything with certainty, but it does seem that if there was any plan to fire Olshey after the way this season unfolded, it would have happened by now. Color me disappointed.

[Wizenheimer]

Olshey just had a zoom press conference where he basically blamed everything on Stotts. Stotts was responsible for 100% of the failure. Olshey himself was blameless of course

and it sure seemed like he was signalling very few changes to the roster, at least where it matters which is the top of the rotation, not the middle or the bottom. He's still sold on the Dame/CJ team....reading between the lines of course

so, next season, more treadmill ahead

[Blazinaway]

Olshey just had a zoom press conference where he basically blamed everything on Stotts. Stotts was responsible for 100% of the failure. Olshey himself was blameless of course

and it sure seemed like he was signalling very few changes to the roster, at least where it matters which is the top of the rotation, not the middle or the bottom. He's still sold on the Dame/CJ team....reading between the lines of course

so, next season, more treadmill ahead

Wow, no surprise on the "blame game", however if your interp is right about no big changes (CJ in particular) I won't worry about who is streaming the Blazers games cause I won't be watching. Olshey should be FIRED NOW

[Wizenheimer]

Olshey just had a zoom press conference where he basically blamed everything on Stotts. Stotts was responsible for 100% of the failure. Olshey himself was blameless of course

and it sure seemed like he was signalling very few changes to the roster, at least where it matters which is the top of the rotation, not the middle or the bottom. He's still sold on the Dame/CJ team....reading between the lines of course

so, next season, more treadmill ahead

Wow, no surprise on the "blame game", however if your interp is right about no big changes (CJ in particular) I won't worry about who is streaming the Blazers games cause I won't be watching. Olshey should be FIRED NOW

if you've never watched his condescending performance art before, you might believe him when he said he was always looking to upgrade any position and any unit. He says that all the time, and he rarely excludes anybody. I mean, he said the same crap just before he traded for Whiteside & Bazemore and signes Hezonja & Tolliver. That's what his words are worth. But pretty clearly he still is invested in the bizarre notion that Portland already has the pieces to be a contender

now, to be fair, a GM won't telegraph his moves. But just the fact he was essentially blaming Stotts for everything is a lot of telegraphing already