MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021

[twix2500]

Josh Richardson is an interesting possible agent this summer. Does he opt out? I say no but I wouldn't be surprised if he did. I wouldn't be surprised if he traded. I think he would have a big role here on the Heat either off the bench or as a starter. He can play the 1 on defense in spo 1 3 1 or 1 2 2 zone.

Maybe we can rehabilitate him and then trade him for another Jimmy Butler.

it's not about rehabilitating him it's about putting him in the proper role in which the Heat will have a need for just like the Heat did with Crowder. Many on here want younger role players instead of old ones like Ariza and Iggy. Richardson is familiar with the Spo system and vice versa. He is not expensive, and may be a role player Heat can trade for.

[carnageta]

Porzingis is disgruntled.

Too bad he’s injury prone. Would be one of the best fits next to Bam

[DayofMourning]

Porzingis is disgruntled.

Too bad he’s injury prone. Would be one of the best fits next to Bam

I think he would fit well with Bam. My perfect big next to Bam would be a big time rebounder and rim protector. As capable as Bam is near the basket, a traditional big that allows Bam to operate from mid range would utilize his skill set the best.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Porzingis is disgruntled.

Too bad he’s injury prone. Would be one of the best fits next to Bam

I think he would fit well with Bam. My perfect big next to Bam would be a big time rebounder and rim protector. As capable as Bam is near the basket, a traditional big that allows Bam to operate from mid range would utilize his skill set the best.

Agreed. Our team has so many holes that taking on that contract without filling some much needed gaps would hamper us big time. I wouldn’t mind Porzingis just not for 30 mil per over the next 3 years.

[DayofMourning]

Porzingis is disgruntled.

Too bad he’s injury prone. Would be one of the best fits next to Bam

I think he would fit well with Bam. My perfect big next to Bam would be a big time rebounder and rim protector. As capable as Bam is near the basket, a traditional big that allows Bam to operate from mid range would utilize his skill set the best.

Agreed. Our team has so many holes that taking on that contract without filling some much needed gaps would hamper us big time. I wouldn’t mind Porzingis just not for 30 mil per over the next 3 years.

A bit more balance would likely showcase our current teams strengths a bit more. Give me a consistent, legit big all 48 minutes versus trying to roll out Iggy and Ariza as faux bigs.

It was a commonality this season to have everyone on the perimeter, trying to get a 3 point shot, with no big(s) to rebound. When you're hitting threes at 40+ percent, then that may be a bit more productive, but when you're a middling three point shooting team, that's a way to lose games. There's something to be said about defenses having to account for a post presence. That opens up everything else. Makes everyone's jobs easier. This lopsided, perimeter based offense isn't going to get us a championship.

[twix2500]

Porzingis is disgruntled.

Too bad he’s injury prone. Would be one of the best fits next to Bam

I think he would fit well with Bam. My perfect big next to Bam would be a big time rebounder and rim protector. As capable as Bam is near the basket, a traditional big that allows Bam to operate from mid range would utilize his skill set the best.

Agreed. Our team has so many holes that taking on that contract without filling some much needed gaps would hamper us big time. I wouldn’t mind Porzingis just not for 30 mil per over the next 3 years.

Porzingis can work, but the need for a point guard would be even larger. If the heat could get Ball for cheap then it would work with Porzingis. Just impossible to get a 20 plus mill player and 30 mill player.

Going back to what I said at the end of last season. Bam should of been a 20 to 25 million dollar per year contract. He should of gotten something like Whiteside got. The Heat went from zero to one hundred too dam fast. But it is what it is.

Back to getting Porzingis, the point guard position would have to be answered. It is interesting because of the lack of bigs in the league for so long it, the league seems to lost traditional point guards. Trying hard to think of a quality point guard that not uber expensive. Maybe Ball, maybe Schroder? If the Heat could get Spencer Dinwiddie (12 mill next year) to go along with Porzingis. But two injury question marks is a huge risk. But man quality players at a bargain going to have flaws. No way they can get both Porzingis and Lowry, which on paper would be great but the salaries just too much to match.

PG: Dinwiddie - Oladipo - Vincent
SG: Butler - Herro
SF: Robinson - Strus
PF: Porzingis - Okpala - Ariza? Or BRING BACK JJ!
Ce: Abedayo - Dedmon

System wise I think Spo plays a perfect system for Porzingis, the personal is not perfect but the system is.

Also an intersteing tibit. Porzingis requested the Knicks to trade him to the Heat. They told him no.

[DayofMourning]

Someone mentioned Brogdon as an option. Is there any smoke to that?

As for Lowry, I'd love to have him, but the contract would have to be much, much better for it to be a quality signing. 35 years old and 30 million per year? He'll no. Half that.

[twix2500]

Someone mentioned Brogdon as an option. Is there any smoke to that?

As for Lowry, I'd love to have him, but the contract would have to be much, much better for it to be a quality signing. 35 years old and 30 million per year? He'll no. Half that.

No smoke, just a player some like.

I do not think he asking for 30 mill. The agreement between the Heat and him was 2 years 50 mill in that range.

[The Bunk]

Porzingis is disgruntled.

Too bad he’s injury prone. Would be one of the best fits next to Bam

Unfortunately he's just too soft for me. Always hurt. Always playing with a lingering injury, or sitting out games.

For that money and a similar impact/fit I'd rather have John Collins.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Someone mentioned Brogdon as an option. Is there any smoke to that?

As for Lowry, I'd love to have him, but the contract would have to be much, much better for it to be a quality signing. 35 years old and 30 million per year? He'll no. Half that.

So hard for me to get excited about coughing up our entire cap space on the aging Kyle Lowry. I love him as a player but not at that amount and he's not going to fix all the other holes this team has. As I was looking at potential bargains at the PG spot in the free agent bin Devonte Graham really sticks out. I think that kid would really flourish with us and would probably only cost us half of what Lowry would go for leaving us money to keep building the team out. Graham would give us a young 26 year old exciting little PG who can knock down 3's and can also create.

Watch on YouTube

Graham had DJJ and Crowder both covering him this game and worked them both. He's a fantastic target for what should be a competitive price. He's restricted but highly doubtful they match a competitive offer by us to have him as a backup to ball.

[Bishop45]

Someone mentioned Brogdon as an option. Is there any smoke to that?

As for Lowry, I'd love to have him, but the contract would have to be much, much better for it to be a quality signing. 35 years old and 30 million per year? He'll no. Half that.

So hard for me to get excited about coughing up our entire cap space on the aging Kyle Lowry. I love him as a player but not at that amount and he's not going to fix all the other holes this team has. As I was looking at potential bargains at the PG spot in the free agent bin Devonte Graham really sticks out. I think that kid would really flourish with us and would probably only cost us half of what Lowry would go for leaving us money to keep building the team out. Graham would give us a young 26 year old exciting little PG who can knock down 3's and can also create.

Rather pick up Shabazz Napier from the Y than spend that much on Lowry, no offense to him

[twix2500]

Porzingis is disgruntled.

Too bad he’s injury prone. Would be one of the best fits next to Bam

Unfortunately he's just too soft for me. Always hurt. Always playing with a lingering injury, or sitting out games.

For that money and a similar impact/fit I'd rather have John Collins.

John Collins is not an option. Collins has to become an option for one to say rather. I rather have Durant. Porzingis being publicly disgruntled for a while now and the fact that the Mavs, did shop him before the trade deadline makes him a reasonable option. And Porzingis asked to be traded to Miami once before.

Collins, Lillard and Leonard are not options. Players that fans would like but there never been any indications that they will be on the market to move. Sure if one of those players make it known that they want to be moved to Miami, then it will be an option.

[twix2500]

Someone mentioned Brogdon as an option. Is there any smoke to that?

As for Lowry, I'd love to have him, but the contract would have to be much, much better for it to be a quality signing. 35 years old and 30 million per year? He'll no. Half that.

So hard for me to get excited about coughing up our entire cap space on the aging Kyle Lowry. I love him as a player but not at that amount and he's not going to fix all the other holes this team has. As I was looking at potential bargains at the PG spot in the free agent bin Devonte Graham really sticks out. I think that kid would really flourish with us and would probably only cost us half of what Lowry would go for leaving us money to keep building the team out. Graham would give us a young 26 year old exciting little PG who can knock down 3's and can also create.

Watch on YouTube

Graham had DJJ and Crowder both covering him this game and worked them both. He's a fantastic target for what should be a competitive price. He's restricted but highly doubtful they match a competitive offer by us to have him as a backup to ball.

I like Graham, the only thing is Riley rarely moves for a small point guard. But I have been intrigued by him. How would he be available?

[twix2500]

Someone mentioned Brogdon as an option. Is there any smoke to that?

As for Lowry, I'd love to have him, but the contract would have to be much, much better for it to be a quality signing. 35 years old and 30 million per year? He'll no. Half that.

So hard for me to get excited about coughing up our entire cap space on the aging Kyle Lowry. I love him as a player but not at that amount and he's not going to fix all the other holes this team has. As I was looking at potential bargains at the PG spot in the free agent bin Devonte Graham really sticks out. I think that kid would really flourish with us and would probably only cost us half of what Lowry would go for leaving us money to keep building the team out. Graham would give us a young 26 year old exciting little PG who can knock down 3's and can also create.

Watch on YouTube

Graham had DJJ and Crowder both covering him this game and worked them both. He's a fantastic target for what should be a competitive price. He's restricted but highly doubtful they match a competitive offer by us to have him as a backup to ball.

I like Graham, the only thing is Riley rarely moves for a small point guard. But I have been intrigued by him. How would he be available?

Oh he is a restricted free agent. Hmmmm another tricky sticky scenario.

[MettaWorldPanda]

So hard for me to get excited about coughing up our entire cap space on the aging Kyle Lowry. I love him as a player but not at that amount and he's not going to fix all the other holes this team has. As I was looking at potential bargains at the PG spot in the free agent bin Devonte Graham really sticks out. I think that kid would really flourish with us and would probably only cost us half of what Lowry would go for leaving us money to keep building the team out. Graham would give us a young 26 year old exciting little PG who can knock down 3's and can also create.

Watch on YouTube

Graham had DJJ and Crowder both covering him this game and worked them both. He's a fantastic target for what should be a competitive price. He's restricted but highly doubtful they match a competitive offer by us to have him as a backup to ball.

I like Graham, the only thing is Riley rarely moves for a small point guard. But I have been intrigued by him. How would he be available?

Oh he is a restricted free agent. Hmmmm another tricky sticky scenario.

Yeah the only thing working in our favor is the Hornets might find it hard to match 12-14 milly for someone who’ll be sitting behind LaMelo Ball.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Spencer Dinwiddie is looking for a deal starting in the 20’s. Iffy considering his game overlaps with Butler and provides low level 3 point shooter.

[Flash4thewin]

I like Graham, the only thing is Riley rarely moves for a small point guard. But I have been intrigued by him. How would he be available?

Oh he is a restricted free agent. Hmmmm another tricky sticky scenario.

Yeah the only thing working in our favor is the Hornets might find it hard to match 12-14 milly for someone who’ll be sitting behind LaMelo Ball.

The MLE is like 11 mil. The Hornets would match that offer so. To get them to think twice we would need near a 20 mil offer. for RA you need to over pay. Also just to make an offer we would need to use cap space so basically everyone would be renounced, Dragic etc. Dragic will go where the money is if we won't pay him. I can see him getting a one year deal with the Mavs to play with Luka.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Oh he is a restricted free agent. Hmmmm another tricky sticky scenario.

Yeah the only thing working in our favor is the Hornets might find it hard to match 12-14 milly for someone who’ll be sitting behind LaMelo Ball.

The MLE is like 11 mil. The Hornets would match that offer so. To get them to think twice we would need near a 20 mil offer. for RA you need to over pay. Also just to make an offer we would need to use cap space so basically everyone would be renounced, Dragic etc. Dragic will go where the money is if we won't pay him. I can see him getting a one year deal with the Mavs to play with Luka.

I think we could go a little lower then 20 for Graham. Hornets would be hard pressed to have all that salary at the backup PG spot. Maybe 12-14 is low but 15-17 seems feasible. Would leave us with 6-7 million to sign another free agent before we touch the mid level. I’m not worried about Dragic. You circle back to him if all else fails or you just move on. Everyone should be renounced regardless.

[DayofMourning]

Regarding Graham, don't we have a better version of him on this team already in Kendrick Nunn? Graham is a notoriously streaky shooter. His FG % has to be in contention for worst in the league for a guy playing 30 mins. Are we over valuing other teams players and devaluing our own?

[MettaWorldPanda]

Regarding Graham, don't we have a better version of him on this team already in Kendrick Nunn? Graham is a notoriously streaky shooter. His FG % has to be in contention for worst in the league for a guy playing 30 mins. Are we over valuing other teams players and devaluing our own?

I like Graham more as a true PG who can create over Nunn. But i also get your argument that the path of least resistance probably leads to just resigning Nunn considering we can go over cap to do it while allowing us to use our 23 million in other areas.