Giannis needs to team up with Dame lillard

[KodiakBear]

Lillard isn't going anywhere, but if I were Milwaukee I'd offer the world other than the Greek Freak and see what happens.

[JRoy]

If I’m the Bucks GM, after this series I’m calling up the Portland front office and selling the farm for Lillard. You’d have Giannis and Lillard locked up for 2-3 year playoff runs at a championship at the minimum

MIL does not have the assets to get Lillard.

[GSP]

That would be the perfect fit for both.

Dame is prolly the 2nd best pick and roll guard in the league behind Luka and maybe Harden. Giannis would thrive. Dame can be the 1st option on offense. Dame has struggled with blitzes and traps.

Now you blitz Dame with 2 players and leave Giannis on a 4 on 3?

Giannis covers up alot of Dames defensive problems too. That would produce a legit contender

[Fadeaway_Jumper]

If I’m the Bucks GM, after this series I’m calling up the Portland front office and selling the farm for Lillard. You’d have Giannis and Lillard locked up for 2-3 year playoff runs at a championship at the minimum

MIL does not have the assets to get Lillard.

You are correct, forgot what they gave up to get Jrue. They are screwed for a long while

[nzahir]

If I’m the Bucks GM, after this series I’m calling up the Portland front office and selling the farm for Lillard. You’d have Giannis and Lillard locked up for 2-3 year playoff runs at a championship at the minimum

MIL does not have the assets to get Lillard.

Does Portland have enough? 3 teamer?

CJ, Nurkic, Collins, Simons, 1sts

Feels way too light still

[JRoy]

If I’m the Bucks GM, after this series I’m calling up the Portland front office and selling the farm for Lillard. You’d have Giannis and Lillard locked up for 2-3 year playoff runs at a championship at the minimum

MIL does not have the assets to get Lillard.

Does Portland have enough? 3 teamer?

CJ, Nurkic, Collins, Simons, 1sts

Feels way too light still

POR doesn’t have the assets to get Giannis either.

[rocketsfan100]

No, he isn't.

Actually he is.... but you could argue for Jokic, Luka or Paul as well . But harden is a great pick and roll passer and a great half court playmaker.

Jokic, Luka, Paul, LeBron are all players who are better playmakers or at the very least can be argued to be better. Harden just has the good fortune to play with two of the best scorers in the league which makes it easy for him. Of course Harden is a very good playmaker. But unquestionable THE best playmaker? Not, not even close.

Stop it brah I’m a big luka fan like you but harden has better court vision and runs a system better ... Harden probaly runs the pick and roll better then anyone I’ve ever seen... then he also can attack the seams and create shots in tight spaces better then anyone not named Chris Paul in today’s game..

For me Chris Paul is 1 and Harden 2 as a offensive floor general

[amcoolio]

Giannis needs an elite playmaker, not Lillard

Bucks had a chance to get Chris Paul, and passed

Then they had a chance to get James Harden, and passed

Now they are stuck and will be looking at offseason upheaval without much room to improve

[Pg81]

Actually he is.... but you could argue for Jokic, Luka or Paul as well . But harden is a great pick and roll passer and a great half court playmaker.

Jokic, Luka, Paul, LeBron are all players who are better playmakers or at the very least can be argued to be better. Harden just has the good fortune to play with two of the best scorers in the league which makes it easy for him. Of course Harden is a very good playmaker. But unquestionable THE best playmaker? Not, not even close.

Stop it brah I’m a big luka fan like you but harden has better court vision and runs a system better ... Harden probaly runs the pick and roll better then anyone I’ve ever seen... then he also can attack the seams and create shots in tight spaces better then anyone not named Chris Paul in today’s game..

For me Chris Paul is 1 and Harden 2 as a offensive floor general

No.

[Rich Michmond]

Lillard isn't going anywhere, but if I were Milwaukee I'd offer the world other than the Greek Freak and see what happens.

They don't really have young players with upside. Their draft capital is also minimal (the earliest first rounder they have is in 2028).
I guess you could do a Middleton-CJ swap, but I'm not sure if it moves the needle for either team.

[dygaction]

Giannis indicated he considered joining Dame in Portland if his extension wasn’t worked out last off season. Has been a sad what if for me since.

Don't think so. Both are loyal to the bone.

They are loyal to the degree that they would not request a trade, but if a trade is coming and one can move to a contending team, why not?

[Drygon]

Portland don't have enough assests to take upon Giannis' 5-year supermax contract....

[dygaction]

If I’m the Bucks GM, after this series I’m calling up the Portland front office and selling the farm for Lillard. You’d have Giannis and Lillard locked up for 2-3 year playoff runs at a championship at the minimum

MIL does not have the assets to get Lillard.

Does Portland have enough? 3 teamer?

CJ, Nurkic, Collins, Simons, 1sts

Feels way too light still

If Giannis is not forcing his way out, not going to work even if you put Dame in.

[Myth]

Giannis indicated he considered joining Dame in Portland if his extension wasn’t worked out last off season. Has been a sad what if for me since.

Don't think so. Both are loyal to the bone.

Could all be journalism fluff, but this is what I was referring to. It had been a while so I couldn’t remember if there was a direct quote and there is not. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.blazersedge.com/platform/amp/2020/12/22/22194879/damian-lillard-giannis-antetokounmpo-rumor-chris-haynes-podcast-contractextension-blazers-bucks

[Cubbies2120]

No, he isn't.

Actually he is.... but you could argue for Jokic, Luka or Paul as well . But harden is a great pick and roll passer and a great half court playmaker.

Jokic, Luka, Paul, LeBron are all players who are better playmakers or at the very least can be argued to be better. Harden just has the good fortune to play with two of the best scorers in the league which makes it easy for him. Of course Harden is a very good playmaker. But unquestionable THE best playmaker? Not, not even close.

Well, lets take a quick look at the players mentioned, their USG% and their AST%:

Usage in 2021 (ordered highest to lowest):
Luka: 36.0%
LeBron: 31.9%
Jokic: 29.6%
Harden: 28.4%
CP3: 22.6%

Ast % in 2021 (ordered highest to lowest):
Luka: 44.1%
Harden: 43.8%
LeBron: 41.8%
Jokic: 40.4%
CP3: 40.9%


I think considering usg rate / ast rate, it's fair to say CP3 / Harden / Jokic are the top 3 facilitators at this time, followed by LeBron. This is out of the players mentioned in the previous post.

[Pg81]

Actually he is.... but you could argue for Jokic, Luka or Paul as well . But harden is a great pick and roll passer and a great half court playmaker.

Jokic, Luka, Paul, LeBron are all players who are better playmakers or at the very least can be argued to be better. Harden just has the good fortune to play with two of the best scorers in the league which makes it easy for him. Of course Harden is a very good playmaker. But unquestionable THE best playmaker? Not, not even close.

Well, lets take a quick look at the players mentioned, their USG% and their AST%:

Usage in 2021 (ordered highest to lowest):
Luka: 36.0%
LeBron: 31.9%
Jokic: 29.6%
Harden: 28.4%
CP3: 22.6%

Ast % in 2021 (ordered highest to lowest):
Luka: 44.1%
Harden: 43.8%
LeBron: 41.8%
Jokic: 40.4%
CP3: 40.9%


I think considering usg rate / ast rate, it's fair to say CP3 / Harden / Jokic are the top 3 facilitators at this time, followed by LeBron. This is out of the players mentioned in the previous post.

This did not prove anything but do carry on.

[Cubbies2120]

Jokic, Luka, Paul, LeBron are all players who are better playmakers or at the very least can be argued to be better. Harden just has the good fortune to play with two of the best scorers in the league which makes it easy for him. Of course Harden is a very good playmaker. But unquestionable THE best playmaker? Not, not even close.

Well, lets take a quick look at the players mentioned, their USG% and their AST%:

Usage in 2021 (ordered highest to lowest):
Luka: 36.0%
LeBron: 31.9%
Jokic: 29.6%
Harden: 28.4%
CP3: 22.6%

Ast % in 2021 (ordered highest to lowest):
Luka: 44.1%
Harden: 43.8%
LeBron: 41.8%
Jokic: 40.4%
CP3: 40.9%


I think considering usg rate / ast rate, it's fair to say CP3 / Harden / Jokic are the top 3 facilitators at this time, followed by LeBron. This is out of the players mentioned in the previous post.

This did not prove anything but do carry on.

Ah, so advanced stats mean nothing to you. We'll just go with subjective evidence I guess?

In that case, CP3/Harden/Jokic/Bron are the top 4 facilitators according to the, uhh, eye test I guess?

[JasonStern]

The problem shouldn't be Dame or Giannis needing a second superstar to team up with. The problem should be superstars teaming up in the first place.

[Jurassic_Park]

Would be a great duo

[NO-KG-AI]

All we're going to hear about is how they need to go team up for find other superstars, and we'll be stuck in the "leave your team" phase forever. hope y'all are happy.