ENYK wrote:Chanel Bomber wrote:Iron Mantis wrote:Jarrett Allen - 22nd pick by Nets.....they properly developed him.
Dinwiddie - 38th pick by Detroit...traded & waived 2 years later.... Nets signed off the scrap heap and properly developed him.
Caris LeVert - 20th Pick by Indy...traded to Nets two weeks later for a PF and properly developed.
D'angelo Russel - Acquired from Lakers after they soured on him, made a leap in development first full season with Nets.
All young players, and all were pivotal players in Nets 6th seed playoff run, only to fall 4-1 to the Sixers.
Nevertheless, it was the overall professionalism of that org, their playoff run, and the development of those "pieces" that made the Nets so attractive to Kyrie and KD who clearly wanted to play in NY.
Russel then became a valuable piece for GS in the transaction that would send KD to the Nets. The value of those other players later enabled the Harden trade as well.
Knicks have fallen light years behind the Nets in every aspect of running a franchise...but it looks like they're finally headed in the right direction.
They're definitely headed there...
People are really SIMPLE. KD and Kyrie did not sign with the Nets to play with Dinwiddie, Jarrett Allen, and Caris Levert... How many games did KD play last season? They can talk all that S*** about a culture change at Barclays, the plan was always to add Harden to that core and surround those three with a bunch of 10 day contract, vet minimum scrubs.
KD and Kyrie just didn't want to do it here... and the reasons were probably more personal than anything else. Psychological... A Dolan-owned team isn't a great look, he has a history of being overbearing (euphemistic phrasing here)... KD and Kyrie run the Nets organization with zero intervention/impositions... It's their blank slate.
Miss me with that "culture change" s***.
You can speculate intentions and slice it how you want, but if the Knicks were the team fresh off the playoff run with a team full of young, promising pieces and some semblance of a stable and professional organization.... it's logical to believe KD and Kyrie may have looked at the Knicks differently.
The Knicks culture and FO was absolutely toxic..
The summer of KD & Kyrie's FA, Knicks had the worst record in the entire league, the Knicks were a mess and the NBA's laughing stock, zero talent/assets, Steve Mills was making decisions using tarot cards, parody coach David Fizdale was driving the tank,...& the best player on the Knicks was rookie 2nd round pick Mitch Rob.
How can you really compare the two situations?