Official Spec Thread: I guess now's the time to blow this dumpster fire up and bask in the glow!

DiplomaticMagic · Post #1481 » by **DiplomaticMagic** » Tue Jun 8, 2021 11:12 pm

Bobby Marks made up a fake Porzingis trade on Zach Lowe's podcast of Gary Harris and Terrence Ross for Porzingis.

Even though we arent giving up much, Mavs have to send picks for me to even consider that contract.

basketballRob · Post #1482 » by **basketballRob** » Tue Jun 8, 2021 11:17 pm

DiplomaticMagic wrote:Bobby Marks made up a fake Porzingis trade on Zach Lowe's podcast of Gary Harris and Terrence Ross for Porzingis.

Even though we arent giving up much, Mavs have to send picks for me to even consider that contract.

I was thinking that they may try to get JI and Harris for Porzingas. They have cap space next year to absorb the extra salary. Both JI and Porzingas are coming off ACL injuries. I thought hard about whether I'd do it or not. Porzingas will probably never be a star, and not sure how much he makes a team better.

Harris is pretty frail now too. He was on the floor a few times this year and it looked like he was having a tough time getting up.

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DiplomaticMagic · Post #1483 » by **DiplomaticMagic** » Tue Jun 8, 2021 11:37 pm

basketballRob wrote:
DiplomaticMagic wrote:Bobby Marks made up a fake Porzingis trade on Zach Lowe's podcast of Gary Harris and Terrence Ross for Porzingis.

Even though we arent giving up much, Mavs have to send picks for me to even consider that contract.
I was thinking that they may try to get JI and Harris for Porzingas. They have cap space next year to absorb the extra salary. Both JI and Porzingas are coming off ACL injuries. I thought hard about whether I'd do it or not. Porzingas will probably never be a star, and not sure how much he makes a team better.

Harris is pretty frail now too. He was on the floor a few times this year and it looked like he was having a tough time getting up.

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No way id do Isaac for Porzingis. Im hesitant to even do a Ross and Harris for Porzingis.

I remember one game a couple years ago, Isaac completely destroyed Porzingis on defense. KP couldnt get a shot vs JI

CPBalla2003 n da 863 · Post #1484 » by **CPBalla2003 n da 863** » Tue Jun 8, 2021 11:39 pm

DiplomaticMagic wrote:Bobby Marks made up a fake Porzingis trade on Zach Lowe's podcast of Gary Harris and Terrence Ross for Porzingis.

Even though we arent giving up much, Mavs have to send picks for me to even consider that contract.

I would definitely consider that... Zingis can be a number one offensive option again with some good defenders around him and his contract ends around the same time as Isaac and Kelle. But a Pick must come with that deal. Health would be a concern, but 20 PPG scorers don't just grow on trees.

basketballRob · Post #1485 » by **basketballRob** » Tue Jun 8, 2021 11:41 pm

DiplomaticMagic wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
DiplomaticMagic wrote:Bobby Marks made up a fake Porzingis trade on Zach Lowe's podcast of Gary Harris and Terrence Ross for Porzingis.

Even though we arent giving up much, Mavs have to send picks for me to even consider that contract.
I was thinking that they may try to get JI and Harris for Porzingas. They have cap space next year to absorb the extra salary. Both JI and Porzingas are coming off ACL injuries. I thought hard about whether I'd do it or not. Porzingas will probably never be a star, and not sure how much he makes a team better.

Harris is pretty frail now too. He was on the floor a few times this year and it looked like he was having a tough time getting up.

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No way id do Isaac for Porzingis. Im hesitant to even do a Ross and Harris for Porzingis.

I remember one game a couple years ago, Isaac completely destroyed Porzingis on defense. KP couldnt get a shot vs JI

That was pre Isaac having ACL surgery and post Porzingas having one. I probably wouldn't do it either, but I did think about.

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RookieStar · Post #1486 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Jun 9, 2021 12:12 am

We handcuffing ourselves to 30+ m/yr for 3 yrs with that contract. Id rather we get back Vuc at least he can bang people down low rather than seeing Zingis getting pushed by reggie jackson

Bakomagic · Post #1487 » by **Bakomagic** » Wed Jun 9, 2021 2:07 am

Acquiring KP is still intriguing to me.

He’s still only 25 years old and is capable of giving you 20pts 10 reb and 2 Blks a game next year !

Yes, his salary is large and still has a few years left but what Free agents are we hoping to sign while we are rebuilding ? Kristaps has done the big city thing in New York and he’s done the team up with a Superstar thing with Luka. This may be a chance for our team to acquire a star who may be willing to stay in Orlando.

But I wouldn’t offer Isaac, I’d rather pair him with Isaac for monstrous rim defending duo who can play together offensively.

How about Harris, MCW and Bamba for Kristaps ?

Then we luck out in the draft and get Cade at #1 and Moody at #2. Then look for a veteran SG with the TPE (maybe take a chance on JRich rounding back into form)

Fultz/Cole/RJ
Cade/JRich/RJ
Okeke/Moody
Isaac/Wagner
KP/WCjr

How’d I do ?

KillMonger · Post #1488 » by **KillMonger** » Wed Jun 9, 2021 7:06 am

No to Porzingis.....shell of himself and every injury he becomes a worse player....i also have a feeling he isn't going to stop getting hurt

tiderulz · Post #1489 » by **tiderulz** » Wed Jun 9, 2021 1:03 pm

CPBalla2003 n da 863 wrote:
DiplomaticMagic wrote:Bobby Marks made up a fake Porzingis trade on Zach Lowe's podcast of Gary Harris and Terrence Ross for Porzingis.

Even though we arent giving up much, Mavs have to send picks for me to even consider that contract.

I would definitely consider that... Zingis can be a number one offensive option again with some good defenders around him and his contract ends around the same time as Isaac and Kelle. But a Pick must come with that deal. Health would be a concern, but 20 PPG scorers don't just grow on trees.

I dont believe he can be a #1 option. and he cant stay healthy. i wouldnt want to risk our salary cap on his health.

paperboymafia · Post #1490 » by **paperboymafia** » Wed Jun 9, 2021 1:29 pm

No way to KP, he's one injury away from retirement.

MagicTownBaller · Post #1491 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Wed Jun 9, 2021 3:21 pm

yoyojw17 wrote:
MagicTownBaller wrote:
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Of course lol, One Piece is one of my favorite anime's. So far nothing has topped Yu Yu Hakusho for me but One Piece is coming close.

Thanks for making me wanna rewatch that one. there goes the rest of my day! lol

Sorry bro lol

Post #1492 » by **ChosenSavior** » Wed Jun 9, 2021 4:15 pm

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Post #1493 » by **SD2042** » Wed Jun 9, 2021 4:30 pm

I have to say no to Porgi. As much talent he has, his injuries is too damning to even consider the thought of trading for him. Let alone taking pairing him alongside JI, who like Porgi can't stay healthy himself.

j-ragg · Post #1494 » by **j-ragg** » Wed Jun 9, 2021 5:01 pm

If Zingis was on his rookie deal and they were looking to take a Fultz type flier on him, I’d be all for it. That price tag is really steep though. If we did it I’d talk myself into it, but wouldn’t be excited.

Skybox · Post #1495 » by **Skybox** » Wed Jun 9, 2021 6:44 pm

j-ragg wrote:If Zingis was on his rookie deal and they were looking to take a Fultz type flier on him, I’d be all for it. That price tag is really steep though. If we did it I’d talk myself into it, but wouldn’t be excited.

Exactly...one more injury and he's in the "worst contract in the league" conversation. Un-tradeable, etc.

Not the right time in our rebirth to shackle ourselves to such a big financial burden with such big risk.

ogmagicfan · Post #1496 » by **ogmagicfan** » Wed Jun 9, 2021 7:29 pm

Hell no to Porzingis. They would have to send 2 first rounders for me to even consider that trade. Even then I would say no. Porzingis can’t stay healthy, idk how anyone could say he could be a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd option on a team after watching him against the Clips.

Considering we could probably get a 1st rounder for Terrence Ross, and possibly a 1st for Harris if we elevate Harris’ value this upcoming season. Why would I trade both to take on the worst contract in the league???

tiderulz · Post #1497 » by **tiderulz** » Wed Jun 9, 2021 7:56 pm

ogmagicfan wrote:Hell no to Porzingis. They would have to send 2 first rounders for me to even consider that trade. Even then I would say no. Porzingis can’t stay healthy, idk how anyone could say he could be a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd option on a team after watching him against the Clips.

Considering we could probably get a 1st rounder for Terrence Ross, and possibly a 1st for Harris if we elevate Harris’ value this upcoming season. Why would I trade both to take on the worst contract in the league???

i dont see any way we could get a 1st for Harris. he is that bad, and has been for years

RookieStar · Post #1498 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Jun 9, 2021 9:17 pm

tiderulz wrote:
ogmagicfan wrote:Hell no to Porzingis. They would have to send 2 first rounders for me to even consider that trade. Even then I would say no. Porzingis can’t stay healthy, idk how anyone could say he could be a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd option on a team after watching him against the Clips.

Considering we could probably get a 1st rounder for Terrence Ross, and possibly a 1st for Harris if we elevate Harris’ value this upcoming season. Why would I trade both to take on the worst contract in the league???

i dont see any way we could get a 1st for Harris. he is that bad, and has been for years

Let's see how we do the reclamation project for him.

Remember last year when MAgic fans claimed we can barely get a 1st for Vuc?

Besides, if all those said about Harris are true ( the great locker room presence, can hold the team down etc etc) then I don't wanna let him go yet. He could be a good influence on our young guys

ogmagicfan · Post #1499 » by **ogmagicfan** » Wed Jun 9, 2021 10:58 pm

tiderulz wrote:
ogmagicfan wrote:Hell no to Porzingis. They would have to send 2 first rounders for me to even consider that trade. Even then I would say no. Porzingis can’t stay healthy, idk how anyone could say he could be a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd option on a team after watching him against the Clips.

Considering we could probably get a 1st rounder for Terrence Ross, and possibly a 1st for Harris if we elevate Harris’ value this upcoming season. Why would I trade both to take on the worst contract in the league???

i dont see any way we could get a 1st for Harris. he is that bad, and has been for years

He’s still there defensively, it’s just the offebsive side of things. It all hinges on him staying healthy. He’s still 26 trying to play for another contract once this one expires. We’ll see if that motivates him enough.

fendilim · Post #1500 » by **fendilim** » Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:49 am

RookieStar wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
ogmagicfan wrote:Hell no to Porzingis. They would have to send 2 first rounders for me to even consider that trade. Even then I would say no. Porzingis can’t stay healthy, idk how anyone could say he could be a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd option on a team after watching him against the Clips.

Considering we could probably get a 1st rounder for Terrence Ross, and possibly a 1st for Harris if we elevate Harris’ value this upcoming season. Why would I trade both to take on the worst contract in the league???

i dont see any way we could get a 1st for Harris. he is that bad, and has been for years

Let's see how we do the reclamation project for him.

Remember last year when MAgic fans claimed we can barely get a 1st for Vuc?

Besides, if all those said about Harris are true ( the great locker room presence, can hold the team down etc etc) then I don't wanna let him go yet. He could be a good influence on our young guys

i dont think harris was brought in to be a reclamation project.

Similar to why we kept Tross this deadline, all direction points to Harris being a good locker room presence. I think that is what we need with out group of young guys. Similar to how all rebuilding teams bring in veterans to help the kids.