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Re: Around The NBA - Round 2 - New Thread!!! 

Post#61 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Wed Jun 9, 2021 10:17 pm

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Rasho Brezec wrote:Since we're slandering Paul George, let me just remind everyone that he's marrying a below average Serbian stripper who he knocked up and tried to bribe into having an abortion.

Eh wouldn't say she's below average

Rasho probably has a better sample size for experience of Serbian strippers, imo. I'm going to rely on him here. :D
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Re: Wait! WHAT!?! New York has $73 Million in CAP SPACE this Summer? What is "Money" Robinson's Cap HOLD? 

Post#62 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Wed Jun 9, 2021 10:41 pm

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Ph@t Joe wrote:So what am I missing?

Randle's contract isn't fully guaranteed

Technically, we can waive him to free up 15 million

And the article you cite explains the "max" money is declining every option, every non-guaranteed contract, and renouncing all FAs. That's how they got to the 74 million figure

The third chart is the "projected" cap space, which has us at 64 million, because we don't waive Randle, so that's what our cap space is likely gonna be.

Richard4444 wrote:1) Mitch has a team option still not picked for next year.

2) Each roster spots cost us almost 1M.

3) Frank is an RFA next season.

4) If you waive Randle and picks, you have 34M in payroll: Barret (9), IQ(2), Mitch (2), Noah (6), Randle (4), Obi (5), Knox (6). 41M counting 7 Roster Spots. If we believe the salary cap will be 114M, ot will give us a cap room of 73M.

K-Dot and Richard have this right.

However, realistically the Knicks aren't going to not pick up their options on Randle and Mitch. I also think it's unlikely they don't pick up the option on Vildoza. So that leaves them with about $50m in real space.
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Post#63 » by Ray Williams » Wed Jun 9, 2021 10:51 pm

With the attention whore knocked out of the playoffs he had to go and change his number to stay in the ‘news’.
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Oscirus wrote:Knicks bout to trade for kemba


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Post#66 » by Oscirus » Wed Jun 9, 2021 11:10 pm

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Rasho Brezec wrote:Since we're slandering Paul George, let me just remind everyone that he's marrying a below average Serbian stripper who he knocked up and tried to bribe into having an abortion.

Eh wouldn't say she's below average

Rasho probably has a better sample size for experience of Serbian strippers, imo. I'm going to rely on him here. :D

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Post#70 » by BKlutch » Wed Jun 9, 2021 11:51 pm

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:I've thoroughly enjoyed watching Capela get absolutely dominated by Embiid. Not so easy when you're not going against an old man or a guy who couldn't catch a basketball if our world depended on it. I hope Embiid hits him for 50 next game.

It's embarrassing how Embiid manhandles him. Capela's literally avoiding contact.

Put mathematically, this can be expressed as:
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Re: Wait! WHAT!?! New York has $73 Million in CAP SPACE this Summer? What is "Money" Robinson's Cap HOLD? 

Post#72 » by Richard4444 » Wed Jun 9, 2021 11:54 pm

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
Ph@t Joe wrote:So what am I missing?

Randle's contract isn't fully guaranteed

Technically, we can waive him to free up 15 million

And the article you cite explains the "max" money is declining every option, every non-guaranteed contract, and renouncing all FAs. That's how they got to the 74 million figure

The third chart is the "projected" cap space, which has us at 64 million, because we don't waive Randle, so that's what our cap space is likely gonna be.

Richard4444 wrote:1) Mitch has a team option still not picked for next year.

2) Each roster spots cost us almost 1M.

3) Frank is an RFA next season.

4) If you waive Randle and picks, you have 34M in payroll: Barret (9), IQ(2), Mitch (2), Noah (6), Randle (4), Obi (5), Knox (6). 41M counting 7 Roster Spots. If we believe the salary cap will be 114M, ot will give us a cap room of 73M.

K-Dot and Richard have this right.

However, realistically the Knicks aren't going to not pick up their options on Randle and Mitch. I also think it's unlikely they don't pick up the option on Vildoza. So that leaves them with about $50m in real space.


Yes. It's unlikely to move from Randle, Mitch, Luca, or the picks. If we trade, we would add salary.

Randle(20), RJ (9), Noah (6), Knox (6), IQ(2), Mitch(2), Obi (5), Picks (5), Luca (3) = 58M for 9 players in the roster. Cap Space: around 54M. If we keep Bullock, around 49M.

PS: If we dont pick Mitch, it would be to lock him in a long contract. Not to save cap space.
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Post#73 » by BKlutch » Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:04 am

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And because of Dolan/Mills signing and stretching him back then, our current FO can never make a good deal again. Oh god we're doomed!
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Post#74 » by BKlutch » Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:06 am

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I think Janis paid this guy to make this video. Next week, it's going to be "How Rudy Giuliani is the best lawyer ever to represent a President."
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Post#75 » by BKlutch » Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:08 am

seren wrote:KP for Kemba is the natural outcome

and then BOTH teams get worse!
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Post#76 » by WargamesX » Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:11 am

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seren wrote:KP for Kemba is the natural outcome

and then BOTH teams get worse!

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Post#79 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:18 am

Richard4444 wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
K-DOT wrote:Randle's contract isn't fully guaranteed

Technically, we can waive him to free up 15 million

And the article you cite explains the "max" money is declining every option, every non-guaranteed contract, and renouncing all FAs. That's how they got to the 74 million figure

The third chart is the "projected" cap space, which has us at 64 million, because we don't waive Randle, so that's what our cap space is likely gonna be.

Richard4444 wrote:1) Mitch has a team option still not picked for next year.

2) Each roster spots cost us almost 1M.

3) Frank is an RFA next season.

4) If you waive Randle and picks, you have 34M in payroll: Barret (9), IQ(2), Mitch (2), Noah (6), Randle (4), Obi (5), Knox (6). 41M counting 7 Roster Spots. If we believe the salary cap will be 114M, ot will give us a cap room of 73M.

K-Dot and Richard have this right.

However, realistically the Knicks aren't going to not pick up their options on Randle and Mitch. I also think it's unlikely they don't pick up the option on Vildoza. So that leaves them with about $50m in real space.


Yes. It's unlikely to move from Randle, Mitch, Luca, or the picks. If we trade, we would add salary.

Randle(20), RJ (9), Noah (6), Knox (6), IQ(2), Mitch(2), Obi (5), Picks (5), Luca (3) = 58M for 9 players in the roster. Cap Space: around 54M. If we keep Bullock, around 49M.

PS: If we dont pick Mitch, it would be to lock him in a long contract. Not to save cap space.

Yes.

* Spotrac is currently estimating the 2021-2022 cap at $112,414,200, which gives Incomplete Roster Charges (IRC) at $925,258.

* Bullock has neither a team or player option - just a straight FA, so one can't really count him in any cap space calculations.

So, taking the Spotrac estimate for the Cap and IRC's, and a similar guestimate for the #19 and #21 picks, gives:

(Noah_gtd) + Randle + RJ + Knox + IQ + Mitch + Obi + Luca + FRP_19 + FRP_21 + 4*IRC = $62,226,854

and a cap space of $50,187,346.

If the cap comes out a little higher the IRC and picks salaries increase proportionally, but the other salaries don't, so that would gives a small amount of extra space. Likewise, if the cap holds closer to this year's level the Knicks loose a little space, but it's probably a max of $1m either way.

Of course, if the Knicks make trades or pick swaps that does change the numbers.

In a way it doesn't seem that vital what the actual numbers are, unless the Knicks are going to sign Kemba into cap space, since I don't really see what FAs the Knicks are going to want to sign into large amounts of the ~$50m.

Either they do deals or, as Richard4444 suggests, they start signing the likes of Bullock (and dare I say Taj) into small segments of it. In any case they probably need to spend something on backup centers and PGs, depending on the draft picks.
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Re: Wait! WHAT!?! New York has $73 Million in CAP SPACE this Summer? What is "Money" Robinson's Cap HOLD? 

Post#80 » by Richard4444 » Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:39 am

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K-Dot and Richard have this right.

However, realistically the Knicks aren't going to not pick up their options on Randle and Mitch. I also think it's unlikely they don't pick up the option on Vildoza. So that leaves them with about $50m in real space.


Yes. It's unlikely to move from Randle, Mitch, Luca, or the picks. If we trade, we would add salary.

Randle(20), RJ (9), Noah (6), Knox (6), IQ(2), Mitch(2), Obi (5), Picks (5), Luca (3) = 58M for 9 players in the roster. Cap Space: around 54M. If we keep Bullock, around 49M.

PS: If we dont pick Mitch, it would be to lock him in a long contract. Not to save cap space.

Yes.

* Spotrac is currently estimating the 2021-2022 cap at $112,414,200, which gives Incomplete Roster Charges (IRC) at $925,258.

* Bullock has neither a team or player option - just a straight FA, so one can't really count him in any cap space calculations.

So, taking the Spotrac estimate for the Cap and IRC's, and a similar guestimate for the #19 and #21 picks, gives:

(Noah_gtd) + Randle + RJ + Knox + IQ + Mitch + Obi + Luca + FRP_19 + FRP_21 + 4*IRC = $62,226,854

and a cap space of $50,187,346.

If the cap comes out a little higher the IRC and picks salaries increase proportionally, but the other salaries don't, so that would gives a small amount of extra space. Likewise, if the cap holds closer to this year's level the Knicks loose a little space, but it's probably a max of $1m either way.

Of course, if the Knicks make trades or pick swaps that does change the numbers.

In a way it doesn't seem that vital what the actual numbers are, unless the Knicks are going to sign Kemba into cap space, since I don't really see what FAs the Knicks are going to want to sign into large amounts of the ~$50m.

Either they do deals or, as Richard4444 suggests, they start signing the likes of Bullock (and dare I say Taj) into small segments of it. In any case they probably need to spend something on backup centers and PGs, depending on the draft picks.


Good work. Just a small observation, I think players + roster charges must be equal 12. Its the way capulator calculates. Consequently, we would have 3 (not 4) Roster Charges to add.

Anyway, with 9 players almost locked and 54M of cap space in this offseason, it's almost sure will sign at least 3 players in Free Agency. Thus we would not need to add roster charges.
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