2021 Playoff and Offseason Speculation - the playoffs. PLAYOFFS????

[Fo-Real]

Chris Paul recruiting Javale McGee at the end of the game. Sooooo back up big is covered next year.

[Barkley6]

I think realistically offseason we need as many coming back as possible plus addressing issues at back up C and SG. We need someone who can defend if Ayton is in foul trouble and some experience at the back up SG would be of great value.

Worried about Payne coming back but if Paul takes 10m less and does a 100/3 then that is probably room for Payne.

Will be interesting what guys are willing to sacrifice to come to the Valley as I think there will be interest.

We'll have no issue signing Payne. His league wide value is likely around $7m/season, as that's the going rate for a top tier backup PG. The only way someone goes significantly north of that is if they are offering him a chance to start, but I would imagine that only very bad teams would be offering that chance (Also, with such a guard heavy league, no team immediately comes to mind that is so desperate for a starting point guard that they'll overpay Cam Payne). We also have Payne's Early Bird Rights, which means we are able to go up to $10m over the cap to re-sign him.

The Knicks is the only team I could see making a big play for him, but if the Knicks sign Payne, it likely means Derrick Rose is gone (who I'd be happy to scoop up). The other teams who have cap space to spend like Houston, OKC, Toronto, Orlando, Charlotte have other holes in their roster that I'm sure take priority over backup PG, and none of them are close to competing.

I'm fairly confident he'll be back.

[Barkley6]

Chris Paul recruiting Javale McGee at the end of the game. Sooooo back up big is covered next year.

I was wondering what they were talking about! Almost makes me wonder if maybe the Suns were more in on McGee than we knew, but he chose Denver and CP3 was like, "you coulda been on this side of the blowout but I'm sure you had your reasons"

[Fo-Real]

Chris Paul recruiting Javale McGee at the end of the game. Sooooo back up big is covered next year.

I was wondering what they were talking about! Almost makes me wonder if maybe the Suns were more in on McGee than we knew, but he chose Denver and CP3 was like, "you coulda been on this of the blowout but I'm sure you had your reasons"

I thought Denver traded for him?

[Mulhollanddrive]

Very deliberate ploy by Paul to create instability in their locker room.

[bwgood77]

Frank is actually solid. Definitely not the worst in NBA. He's limited but he fits our system well. Good passer and crafty around the basket. I think even someone like Ayton can learn footwork from guys like Kaminsky and Saric. Both are not athletic at all but they have good footwork and are good passers. That being said I hope Suns sign someone better than Kaminsky

Kaminsky is a solid third string big. Good size, can shoot (inconsistently), good passer, avoids mistakes. Knows his role, good teammate, occasionally provides quality minutes. Was solid starting several games for the #2 team in the league this year, mostly victories IIRC. I don't think he's worth much more than the minimum, but even $500k more is a 50% pay increase, and most minimum contract players in this league aren't even solid third stringers.

I fully expect we'll bring him back if no one's willing to offer more than the minimum, but I wouldn't be shocked if he were offered a bit more, because he is an NBA player. Book loves him. No point in replacing him with another Cheick Diallo.

The only thing Frank does well is knowing the system. It's his only redeeming quality. He can't shoot, defend the perimeter, defend the paint, rebound, dribble, create, and is constantly late in rotation. When I say he's the worst in the NBA, I mean his metrics, across the board, are bottom of the league relative to minutes played. He's not even a league replacement level player. We'd be much better off signing an FA in the offseason (any NBA level dude) and letting him learn the system. The only reason Stanky Franky is back imo is because after getting cut by a team that desperately needs NBA players, he just happened to know our system. I'd love it if he was the shooter he was supposed to be out of college, but he isn't. He lives off that reputation more than his actual shooting in the league, similar to Mirotic at the start of his career.

Yeah, I'm fine with Frank on a minimum, and he's great for the locker room and unity as we go forward, but I know they want to upgrade in areas. I imagine they will let one guard go (maybe 2), add a rookie PG (hopefully), and another experienced banging big for he minimum. The main guy to bring back is Payne and then Craig. Nader if on minimum deal but expendable if Craig is back. And keep developing Smith and Alexander for young depth at 2 most important spots needed.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Kaminsky is a solid third string big. Good size, can shoot (inconsistently), good passer, avoids mistakes. Knows his role, good teammate, occasionally provides quality minutes. Was solid starting several games for the #2 team in the league this year, mostly victories IIRC. I don't think he's worth much more than the minimum, but even $500k more is a 50% pay increase, and most minimum contract players in this league aren't even solid third stringers.

I fully expect we'll bring him back if no one's willing to offer more than the minimum, but I wouldn't be shocked if he were offered a bit more, because he is an NBA player. Book loves him. No point in replacing him with another Cheick Diallo.

The only thing Frank does well is knowing the system. It's his only redeeming quality. He can't shoot, defend the perimeter, defend the paint, rebound, dribble, create, and is constantly late in rotation. When I say he's the worst in the NBA, I mean his metrics, across the board, are bottom of the league relative to minutes played. He's not even a league replacement level player. We'd be much better off signing an FA in the offseason (any NBA level dude) and letting him learn the system. The only reason Stanky Franky is back imo is because after getting cut by a team that desperately needs NBA players, he just happened to know our system. I'd love it if he was the shooter he was supposed to be out of college, but he isn't. He lives off that reputation more than his actual shooting in the league, similar to Mirotic at the start of his career.

Yeah, I'm fine with Frank on a minimum, and he's great for the locker room and unity as we go forward, but I know they want to upgrade in areas. I imagine they will let one guard go (maybe 2), add a rookie PG (hopefully), and another experienced banging big for he minimum. The main guy to bring back is Payne and then Craig. Nader if on minimum deal but expendable if Craig is back. And keep developing Smith and Alexander for young depth at 2 most important spots needed.

I'm cool to keep Tyshon through preseason at least, but he's gonna have to win a minutes competition if he wants to keep a spot on the roster. We're drafting someone at #29, after all. Can't have too many kids.

[Barkley6]

Kaminsky is a solid third string big. Good size, can shoot (inconsistently), good passer, avoids mistakes. Knows his role, good teammate, occasionally provides quality minutes. Was solid starting several games for the #2 team in the league this year, mostly victories IIRC. I don't think he's worth much more than the minimum, but even $500k more is a 50% pay increase, and most minimum contract players in this league aren't even solid third stringers.

I fully expect we'll bring him back if no one's willing to offer more than the minimum, but I wouldn't be shocked if he were offered a bit more, because he is an NBA player. Book loves him. No point in replacing him with another Cheick Diallo.

The only thing Frank does well is knowing the system. It's his only redeeming quality. He can't shoot, defend the perimeter, defend the paint, rebound, dribble, create, and is constantly late in rotation. When I say he's the worst in the NBA, I mean his metrics, across the board, are bottom of the league relative to minutes played. He's not even a league replacement level player. We'd be much better off signing an FA in the offseason (any NBA level dude) and letting him learn the system. The only reason Stanky Franky is back imo is because after getting cut by a team that desperately needs NBA players, he just happened to know our system. I'd love it if he was the shooter he was supposed to be out of college, but he isn't. He lives off that reputation more than his actual shooting in the league, similar to Mirotic at the start of his career.

Yeah, I'm fine with Frank on a minimum, and he's great for the locker room and unity as we go forward, but I know they want to upgrade in areas. I imagine they will let one guard go (maybe 2), add a rookie PG (hopefully), and another experienced banging big for he minimum. The main guy to bring back is Payne and then Craig. Nader if on minimum deal but expendable if Craig is back. And keep developing Smith and Alexander for young depth at 2 most important spots needed.

This is fully what I anticipate. I think they likely do a little due diligence on some guys for more than the minimum (maybe just get a feel for Richuan Holmes' market, maybe see if DeMar DeRozan is at the point in his career where he wants to sacrifice money for winning), but barring one of those big time guys making an unexpected move, I think we let both Gallo and Moore walk. I hate losing them, but I think we need to draft a PG of the future and let him learn while CP3 is still here.

I think Kaminsky and Nader back on minimum deals make a lot of sense, but if there are guys like say, Carmelo Anthony, Dwight Howard, James Johnson, Javale McGee, Hassan Whiteside, etc. who are willing to come here for the minimum, I think you take those players over Frank (not many wings fall into that older, talented, minimum deal category, so maybe bringing Nader back is more likely than Frank)

I would like to find a way to move on from Carter, as I feel his contract is the biggest barrier we have in upgrading our roster. I think he's a solid NBA player, but with CP3, Book, and Payne his minutes are always going to be limited, and he doesn't do enough to warrant letting those guys sit for longer. But that's easier said that done.

[Barkley6]

The only thing Frank does well is knowing the system. It's his only redeeming quality. He can't shoot, defend the perimeter, defend the paint, rebound, dribble, create, and is constantly late in rotation. When I say he's the worst in the NBA, I mean his metrics, across the board, are bottom of the league relative to minutes played. He's not even a league replacement level player. We'd be much better off signing an FA in the offseason (any NBA level dude) and letting him learn the system. The only reason Stanky Franky is back imo is because after getting cut by a team that desperately needs NBA players, he just happened to know our system. I'd love it if he was the shooter he was supposed to be out of college, but he isn't. He lives off that reputation more than his actual shooting in the league, similar to Mirotic at the start of his career.

Yeah, I'm fine with Frank on a minimum, and he's great for the locker room and unity as we go forward, but I know they want to upgrade in areas. I imagine they will let one guard go (maybe 2), add a rookie PG (hopefully), and another experienced banging big for he minimum. The main guy to bring back is Payne and then Craig. Nader if on minimum deal but expendable if Craig is back. And keep developing Smith and Alexander for young depth at 2 most important spots needed.

I'm cool to keep Tyshon through preseason at least, but he's gonna have to win a minutes competition if he wants to keep a spot on the roster. We're drafting someone at #29, after all. Can't have too many kids.

He can still be a two-way player for the next two seasons IIRC, so not much worry about losing roster spots there. I think for both our rookies giving them a full summer league and full training camp will help see who they really are.

[King4Day]

Nothing crazy here. Just sounds like they're saying if he does opt out, it's unlikely he gets the deal his wants. That it's better to just take next years pay, and then sign a solid contract next year.
I'd agree with this. Even if he falls off a cliff next year, he'll still be worth 2 years 20 mil to some team and make that same 60mil total (and some) without the risk.

Were he to hit the open market this offseason, Phoenix Suns star Chris Paul might command $60 million over three years, according to Sports Illustrated's Chris Mannix.

Paul has a $44.2 million player option for the 2021-22 season, so he could choose to remain with the Suns with an eye toward a bigger payday in 2022.

Unless the Suns suffer a spectacular postseason flameout, triggering his player option might be Paul's best move because that represents a sure thing. If he's giving that up in order to earn $20 million annually, then it's not all that great of a tradeoff.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10005399-chris-paul-rumors-execs-have-star-in-3-year-60m-ish-contract-range-if-pg-hits-fa

[King4Day]

Seems most mock drafts have us taking a PG. This one is younger than Jones is usually OK with but it does make sense to 'swing for the fences' while they have a chance to develop.

29. Phoenix Suns

Jaden Springer
Tennessee
PG/SG
Age: 18.6

With much of the Suns' backcourt depth entering free agency, it could make sense for Phoenix to swing for the fences in selecting Springer. The Tennessee guard is both one of the youngest players in this draft class and one of its best perimeter defenders. He is a strong, instinctual scorer whose ability to get out in transition and into the lane with his powerful first step should help him carve out a role as his perimeter shooting and decision-making continue to evolve.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/31433978/2021-nba-mock-draft-end-teams-missed-playoffs

[WeekapaugGroove]

Seems most mock drafts have us taking a PG. This one is younger than Jones is usually OK with but it does make sense to 'swing for the fences' while they have a chance to develop.

29. Phoenix Suns

Jaden Springer
Tennessee
PG/SG
Age: 18.6

With much of the Suns' backcourt depth entering free agency, it could make sense for Phoenix to swing for the fences in selecting Springer. The Tennessee guard is both one of the youngest players in this draft class and one of its best perimeter defenders. He is a strong, instinctual scorer whose ability to get out in transition and into the lane with his powerful first step should help him carve out a role as his perimeter shooting and decision-making continue to evolve.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/31433978/2021-nba-mock-draft-end-teams-missed-playoffs

I'd actually be a little surprised if they go PG. I kind of get the sense Jones/Monty aren't too interested in developing a young PG and putting up with the typical growing pains that requires.

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[King4Day]

Seems most mock drafts have us taking a PG. This one is younger than Jones is usually OK with but it does make sense to 'swing for the fences' while they have a chance to develop.

29. Phoenix Suns

Jaden Springer
Tennessee
PG/SG
Age: 18.6

With much of the Suns' backcourt depth entering free agency, it could make sense for Phoenix to swing for the fences in selecting Springer. The Tennessee guard is both one of the youngest players in this draft class and one of its best perimeter defenders. He is a strong, instinctual scorer whose ability to get out in transition and into the lane with his powerful first step should help him carve out a role as his perimeter shooting and decision-making continue to evolve.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/31433978/2021-nba-mock-draft-end-teams-missed-playoffs

I'd actually be a little surprised if they go PG. I kind of get the sense Jones/Monty aren't too interested in developing a young PG and putting up with the typical growing pains that requires.

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I believe Moore will find another home next season (assuming we retain Payne).
While we have Paul on this roster, I think it's the perfect time to try to develop someone (whether it's this guy or someone else). Maybe Paul's knowledge can rub off on someone before he goes and it can benefit us.

I look at the rest of our roster and we really don't have any other needs.
Assume Smith replaces Kaminsky as a backup 4/5.
We have SF in a good place with Bridges and Johnson. If we keep Craig, he can be the backup 3/4 too.
I think now is the best time to develop a PG. Especially when they will get little to no playing time anyway.

Also, since we have no 1st rounder next season, this is the time to take one IMO.

[Barkley6]

Seems most mock drafts have us taking a PG. This one is younger than Jones is usually OK with but it does make sense to 'swing for the fences' while they have a chance to develop.



https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/31433978/2021-nba-mock-draft-end-teams-missed-playoffs

I'd actually be a little surprised if they go PG. I kind of get the sense Jones/Monty aren't too interested in developing a young PG and putting up with the typical growing pains that requires.

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I believe Moore will find another home next season (assuming we retain Payne).
While we have Paul on this roster, I think it's the perfect time to try to develop someone (whether it's this guy or someone else). Maybe Paul's knowledge can rub off on someone before he goes and it can benefit us.

I look at the rest of our roster and we really don't have any other needs.
Assume Smith replaces Kaminsky as a backup 4/5.
We have SF in a good place with Bridges and Johnson. If we keep Craig, he can be the backup 3/4 too.
I think now is the best time to develop a PG. Especially when they will get little to no playing time anyway.

Also, since we have no 1st rounder next season, this is the time to take one IMO.

This is the biggest reason. If you wait until our next first round pick, you're essentially losing the opportunity to have that player mentored by Chris Paul.

Especially since as it stands in 2023 we'll have Book, Bridges (extension) Ayton (extension), Crowder, Saric, CamJ, Smith and possibly Payne and Craig under contract. The chances of us being able to go out and get a good young PG in FA would be limited.

[spanishninja]

I'd actually be a little surprised if they go PG. I kind of get the sense Jones/Monty aren't too interested in developing a young PG and putting up with the typical growing pains that requires.

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I believe Moore will find another home next season (assuming we retain Payne).
While we have Paul on this roster, I think it's the perfect time to try to develop someone (whether it's this guy or someone else). Maybe Paul's knowledge can rub off on someone before he goes and it can benefit us.

I look at the rest of our roster and we really don't have any other needs.
Assume Smith replaces Kaminsky as a backup 4/5.
We have SF in a good place with Bridges and Johnson. If we keep Craig, he can be the backup 3/4 too.
I think now is the best time to develop a PG. Especially when they will get little to no playing time anyway.

Also, since we have no 1st rounder next season, this is the time to take one IMO.

This is the biggest reason. If you wait until our next first round pick, you're essentially losing the opportunity to have that player mentored by Chris Paul.

Especially since as it stands in 2023 we'll have Book, Bridges (extension) Ayton (extension), Crowder, Saric, CamJ, Smith and possibly Payne and Craig under contract. The chances of us being able to go out and get a good young PG in FA would be limited.

Similar situation as when we first got Nash. We kept dumping draft picks at the time and never got a good successor. Cannot make the same mistake this time.

[Slim Charless]

I'd actually be a little surprised if they go PG. I kind of get the sense Jones/Monty aren't too interested in developing a young PG and putting up with the typical growing pains that requires.

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I believe Moore will find another home next season (assuming we retain Payne).
While we have Paul on this roster, I think it's the perfect time to try to develop someone (whether it's this guy or someone else). Maybe Paul's knowledge can rub off on someone before he goes and it can benefit us.

I look at the rest of our roster and we really don't have any other needs.
Assume Smith replaces Kaminsky as a backup 4/5.
We have SF in a good place with Bridges and Johnson. If we keep Craig, he can be the backup 3/4 too.
I think now is the best time to develop a PG. Especially when they will get little to no playing time anyway.

Also, since we have no 1st rounder next season, this is the time to take one IMO.

This is the biggest reason. If you wait until our next first round pick, you're essentially losing the opportunity to have that player mentored by Chris Paul.

Especially since as it stands in 2023 we'll have Book, Bridges (extension) Ayton (extension), Crowder, Saric, CamJ, Smith and possibly Payne and Craig under contract. The chances of us being able to go out and get a good young PG in FA would be limited.

Couldn't agree more with you 2. We absolutely need to draft a PG if possible. Paynes job won't change as he's more of a change of pace guy off the bench, not a true starter. We grab a young guy and let him learn from Paul for the next 2-3 years and he can take over then.

If there's a good point available when we draft then we need to pull the trigger. I'd also be down to trade that pick for another team's PG. Chicago and Orlando both have young points and both teams might be getting major upgrades this summer (Lonzo for the Bulls and Cade for the Magic). If either happens then Anthony and White might be available for trade.

Either way that pick needs to go towards finding CP3's replacement.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I believe Moore will find another home next season (assuming we retain Payne).
While we have Paul on this roster, I think it's the perfect time to try to develop someone (whether it's this guy or someone else). Maybe Paul's knowledge can rub off on someone before he goes and it can benefit us.

I look at the rest of our roster and we really don't have any other needs.
Assume Smith replaces Kaminsky as a backup 4/5.
We have SF in a good place with Bridges and Johnson. If we keep Craig, he can be the backup 3/4 too.
I think now is the best time to develop a PG. Especially when they will get little to no playing time anyway.

Also, since we have no 1st rounder next season, this is the time to take one IMO.

This is the biggest reason. If you wait until our next first round pick, you're essentially losing the opportunity to have that player mentored by Chris Paul.

Especially since as it stands in 2023 we'll have Book, Bridges (extension) Ayton (extension), Crowder, Saric, CamJ, Smith and possibly Payne and Craig under contract. The chances of us being able to go out and get a good young PG in FA would be limited.

Couldn't agree more with you 2. We absolutely need to draft a PG if possible. Paynes job won't change as he's more of a change of pace guy off the bench, not a true starter. We grab a young guy and let him learn from Paul for the next 2-3 years and he can take over then.

If there's a good point available when we draft then we need to pull the trigger. I'd also be down to trade that pick for another team's PG. Chicago and Orlando both have young points and both teams might be getting major upgrades this summer (Lonzo for the Bulls and Cade for the Magic). If either happens then Anthony and White might be available for trade.

Either way that pick needs to go towards finding CP3's replacement.

As far as CPs replacement I expect they just continue to go the vet route.

I'm personally not opposed to drafting a PG and it's just a suspicion that they are out of the developing PG game that I have due to their pick last year and also the fact the moved every young guard on the roster last year.

I do believe PG maybe more than any other position is one where you need to actually play in games to develop. You just can't replicate the feel of the game training you need in practice.

The last thing I'd say is if they don't trade this pick (they certainly might) I wouldn't really target any specific position. When you pick that late just getting a guy who can stick and play at all is a win so take the best prospect available.
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[bwgood77]

The only thing Frank does well is knowing the system. It's his only redeeming quality. He can't shoot, defend the perimeter, defend the paint, rebound, dribble, create, and is constantly late in rotation. When I say he's the worst in the NBA, I mean his metrics, across the board, are bottom of the league relative to minutes played. He's not even a league replacement level player. We'd be much better off signing an FA in the offseason (any NBA level dude) and letting him learn the system. The only reason Stanky Franky is back imo is because after getting cut by a team that desperately needs NBA players, he just happened to know our system. I'd love it if he was the shooter he was supposed to be out of college, but he isn't. He lives off that reputation more than his actual shooting in the league, similar to Mirotic at the start of his career.

Yeah, I'm fine with Frank on a minimum, and he's great for the locker room and unity as we go forward, but I know they want to upgrade in areas. I imagine they will let one guard go (maybe 2), add a rookie PG (hopefully), and another experienced banging big for he minimum. The main guy to bring back is Payne and then Craig. Nader if on minimum deal but expendable if Craig is back. And keep developing Smith and Alexander for young depth at 2 most important spots needed.

I'm cool to keep Tyshon through preseason at least, but he's gonna have to win a minutes competition if he wants to keep a spot on the roster. We're drafting someone at #29, after all. Can't have too many kids.

Ty-Shon is solid. I also don't like to give up on rookies after 1 year. 2 at the earliest. My opinion is that you should play a rotation of 9 or 10 guys, and have a couple more there for injury, with 2-3 in development on the roster and then the 2 2 ways in development, which gives you 12-13 experienced potential rotation guys (9-10 in rotation) and 3-4 for competition or backups for rotation in case of injury. Ty-Shon can be on a 2 way again, but if we only have 1 rookie, he can maybe battle in training camp against other camp invites for the 2 way spots or a roster spot. I think you can be fine with 12 experienced roster guys, maybe a 2nd year lotto pick like Jalen as your 13th and then a couple rookies or Ty-Shon and one rookie as the other spot. It still leave 2 2 ways. Ty-Shon was a solid 3&D guard in college with a near 60% TS% and 40% on 3s on 5.6 attempts per game, who could pass and has a low turnover rate.

He's a solid combo guard. We don't need 14 vets on the roster. I know we have that now but we don't really need all the guards we have...and we have a ton of wings..Nader is fine as a backup for injury but if we keep Craig he may want to move on.

[bwgood77]

The only thing Frank does well is knowing the system. It's his only redeeming quality. He can't shoot, defend the perimeter, defend the paint, rebound, dribble, create, and is constantly late in rotation. When I say he's the worst in the NBA, I mean his metrics, across the board, are bottom of the league relative to minutes played. He's not even a league replacement level player. We'd be much better off signing an FA in the offseason (any NBA level dude) and letting him learn the system. The only reason Stanky Franky is back imo is because after getting cut by a team that desperately needs NBA players, he just happened to know our system. I'd love it if he was the shooter he was supposed to be out of college, but he isn't. He lives off that reputation more than his actual shooting in the league, similar to Mirotic at the start of his career.

Yeah, I'm fine with Frank on a minimum, and he's great for the locker room and unity as we go forward, but I know they want to upgrade in areas. I imagine they will let one guard go (maybe 2), add a rookie PG (hopefully), and another experienced banging big for he minimum. The main guy to bring back is Payne and then Craig. Nader if on minimum deal but expendable if Craig is back. And keep developing Smith and Alexander for young depth at 2 most important spots needed.

This is fully what I anticipate. I think they likely do a little due diligence on some guys for more than the minimum (maybe just get a feel for Richuan Holmes' market, maybe see if DeMar DeRozan is at the point in his career where he wants to sacrifice money for winning), but barring one of those big time guys making an unexpected move, I think we let both Gallo and Moore walk. I hate losing them, but I think we need to draft a PG of the future and let him learn while CP3 is still here.

I think Kaminsky and Nader back on minimum deals make a lot of sense, but if there are guys like say, Carmelo Anthony, Dwight Howard, James Johnson, Javale McGee, Hassan Whiteside, etc. who are willing to come here for the minimum, I think you take those players over Frank (not many wings fall into that older, talented, minimum deal category, so maybe bringing Nader back is more likely than Frank)

I would like to find a way to move on from Carter, as I feel his contract is the biggest barrier we have in upgrading our roster. I think he's a solid NBA player, but with CP3, Book, and Payne his minutes are always going to be limited, and he doesn't do enough to warrant letting those guys sit for longer. But that's easier said that done.

Holmes is a super quality C...starter quality. He won't be had for a backup role. He has thrived in Sacramento and could start a lot of places. I kind of like DeRozan only because it's amazing how he's become such a good passer while having low turnovers. But he's not a guy we need to look into. We need 3&D type guys. It's nice to have solid midrange guys and guys who move the ball but if you can't hit 3s or defend as well, I don't think you fit in here.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Yeah, I'm fine with Frank on a minimum, and he's great for the locker room and unity as we go forward, but I know they want to upgrade in areas. I imagine they will let one guard go (maybe 2), add a rookie PG (hopefully), and another experienced banging big for he minimum. The main guy to bring back is Payne and then Craig. Nader if on minimum deal but expendable if Craig is back. And keep developing Smith and Alexander for young depth at 2 most important spots needed.

This is fully what I anticipate. I think they likely do a little due diligence on some guys for more than the minimum (maybe just get a feel for Richuan Holmes' market, maybe see if DeMar DeRozan is at the point in his career where he wants to sacrifice money for winning), but barring one of those big time guys making an unexpected move, I think we let both Gallo and Moore walk. I hate losing them, but I think we need to draft a PG of the future and let him learn while CP3 is still here.

I think Kaminsky and Nader back on minimum deals make a lot of sense, but if there are guys like say, Carmelo Anthony, Dwight Howard, James Johnson, Javale McGee, Hassan Whiteside, etc. who are willing to come here for the minimum, I think you take those players over Frank (not many wings fall into that older, talented, minimum deal category, so maybe bringing Nader back is more likely than Frank)

I would like to find a way to move on from Carter, as I feel his contract is the biggest barrier we have in upgrading our roster. I think he's a solid NBA player, but with CP3, Book, and Payne his minutes are always going to be limited, and he doesn't do enough to warrant letting those guys sit for longer. But that's easier said that done.

Holmes is a super quality C...starter quality. He won't be had for a backup role. He has thrived in Sacramento and could start a lot of places. I kind of like DeRozan only because it's amazing how he's become such a good passer while having low turnovers. But he's not a guy we need to look into. We need 3&D type guys. It's nice to have solid midrange guys and guys who move the ball but if you can't hit 3s or defend as well, I don't think you fit in here.

It's not going to happen but if DeRozan was willing to chase a ring as a 6th man playing on the MLE he would be a ridiculously good addition. He'd fit right in with the passing on this team and could carry the bench scoring. Again not going to happen but man would they be tough with him.

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