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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Playoffs 2ND Round Game 3 Thursday 7:30 

Post#541 » by Prokorov » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:57 am

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Don't be shook. The Nets played bad and yet had minimal turnovers and overcame a disastrous 1st quarter to lose by 3.

We aren't the ones who need to be worried here. If the Nets come out Sunday with their usual execution it will be a hot afternoon for the Bucks and not in a good way.


We cant count on our role guys to play well. they wont on the road. its much more likely their role guys like forbes and tucker hit wide open shots at home.

We are completely F'd


Bro, sleep on it and we'll talk tomorrow. We'll be fine. We are better than them and that's with Harden and Green out


We arent better than them in close games where coaching matters. we will need Kyrie/KD/Harris to be on fire and blow them out. that wont happen on the road. this will go 7... and we likely need harden.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Playoffs 2ND Round Game 3 Thursday 7:30 

Post#542 » by Prokorov » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:59 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:I mean, the main thing as a team is that we failed to get Durant the ball on multiple possessions after the guy destroyed the Bucks on offense late the 4th.

Lots of blame to go around. Nash should have reeled the team in and got everyone on the same page. Brown needs to know his role. This is a team loss and I predict we will see better on Sunday. Hopefully we get Green back

Bro they send double. It was literally anyone but KD.

I'm not sure where Kyrie was. Rip that ball from Brown and make it happen, dude didn't want it at all.


Didnt want it? he scored 7 straight with KD on the bench to tie it
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Playoffs 2ND Round Game 3 Thursday 7:30 

Post#543 » by Prokorov » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:59 am

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We cant count on our role guys to play well. they wont on the road. its much more likely their role guys like forbes and tucker hit wide open shots at home.

We are completely F'd


Bro, sleep on it and we'll talk tomorrow. We'll be fine. We are better than them and that's with Harden and Green out


That’s my takeaway as well.

We will get both Green and Harden back very soon. The Bucks basically fall on Middleton isolations and Giannis kick outs. The Nets are better, need to execute better offensively.


We need Harden.

I don't think green will help. it means less claxton. Who has done well defensively. Nash over relies on green at C.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Playoffs 2ND Round Game 3 Thursday 7:30 

Post#544 » by JoseRizal » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:00 am

I would never understand why the last 3 shots were not taken by either KD or Kyrie...
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Post#545 » by Prokorov » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:01 am

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DarkXaero wrote:"Dumbest thing of all time"? Bruce had 11 rebounds tonight, include 3 offensive rebounds. Offensive rebounding has been a strength for Bruce all year long...

That was not a pick & roll at the end, Brown caught the ball at the top of the 3 pt line after Kyrie was trapped...


The first shot brown missed was a pick and roll from irving off action on the left wing. the second was on a broken play off a nearly turned over in bounds.

brown made the right play on both.

if you dont want him taking pick and roll floaters, dont put him in the game and run a play for him to set a pick.
I'm obviously talking about the last play, and hell no, it wasn't the right play. There was plenty of time left on the clock and there was no need to rush, yet Brown made the bone headed decision of driving with all that space, and taking a contested left handed lay up which wasn't even close. Don't try to spin this into the "right play" ffs.


Not close? it hit the rim.

it was a broken play off a near turnover on the inbounds, after a trap on Kyrie, with an open lane. If you dont want him taking that shot dont put him on the floor.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Playoffs 2ND Round Game 3 Thursday 7:30 

Post#546 » by CalamityX12 » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:02 am

Not shaken, this was a hame we missed out on stealing so thata disappointing...

But finish them in 2 starting Sunday
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Post#547 » by Prokorov » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:03 am

therealbig3 wrote:Predictable post-game blaming of Nash when any neutral fan can see he's been the better coach this series.

But some people have had an agenda against him all year. Oh well.


Bud has been bad. he is an awful coach as well.

But anyone can see Nash has been terrible all playoffs and anytime its close, he screws us. He was awful all boston series and awful games 1 and 2. when you have KD/Kyrie, it can make up for alot of awful coaching. in close games on the road... not so much.

there is no agenda. he is an idiot moron. look at game 3 vs boston. Tatum scored 50 and he still never adjusted to them switching kyrie/harris on to tatum.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Playoffs 2ND Round Game 3 Thursday 7:30 

Post#548 » by Prokorov » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:04 am

JoseRizal wrote:I would never understand why the last 3 shots were not taken by either KD or Kyrie...


Because Nash didnt force a situation that made that likely....

in fact, he almost guaranteed it wouldnt happen by having brown out there screening for the ball handler.
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Post#549 » by Sharcm1 » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:04 am

Idk what the nets coaching staff is doing. The nets never run good plays for last second shots.they barely get the ball in
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Playoffs 2ND Round Game 3 Thursday 7:30 

Post#550 » by Hello Brooklyn » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:08 am

Sharcm1 wrote:Idk what the nets coaching staff is doing. The nets never run good plays for last second shots.they barely get the ball in


I don't think that was the play to be fair. Seems like Brucie went rogue.

Could have easily passed it out to KD for a better shot.
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Post#551 » by Prokorov » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:09 am

Sharcm1 wrote:Idk what the nets coaching staff is doing. The nets never run good plays for last second shots.they barely get the ball in


I mean, if you want to guarantee a shot for kyrie or durant, it isnt hard. put 3 shooters with them, stick them in the corner, and iso one of them.

people can call me a Nash hater, but im waiting for someone to respond to this:

IF brown is in the game, and you have him screening for the ball handler, what do you expect to happen? that the bucks switch the pick and roll?
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Post#552 » by HardenGoat » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:09 am

With Harden managing the games in the 4th this type of ending will never occur. We should win the next game anyways. We had two straight games with good shooting that is hard to sustain but we just saw the missed come this game. We’ll be back up next game. No worries.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Playoffs 2ND Round Game 3 Thursday 7:30 

Post#553 » by DarkXaero » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:11 am

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The first shot brown missed was a pick and roll from irving off action on the left wing. the second was on a broken play off a nearly turned over in bounds.

brown made the right play on both.

if you dont want him taking pick and roll floaters, dont put him in the game and run a play for him to set a pick.
I'm obviously talking about the last play, and hell no, it wasn't the right play. There was plenty of time left on the clock and there was no need to rush, yet Brown made the bone headed decision of driving with all that space, and taking a contested left handed lay up which wasn't even close. Don't try to spin this into the "right play" ffs.


Not close? it hit the rim.


it was a broken play off a near turnover on the inbounds, after a trap on Kyrie, with an open lane. If you dont want him taking that shot dont put him on the floor.
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It actually didn't even hit the rim :lol: :lol:
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Playoffs 2ND Round Game 3 Thursday 7:30 

Post#554 » by Prokorov » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:12 am

HardenGoat wrote:With Harden managing the games in the 4th this type of ending will never occur. We should win the next game anyways. We had two straight games with good shooting that is hard to sustain but we just saw the missed come this game. We’ll be back up next game. No worries.


The bucks are 20-88 in this series. they are shooting under 30% on "wide open threes" (no defender within 6 feet). They are going to shoot better, and probability is, now that they have confidence coming off a win and a shot to make it 2-2, that they turn it around a bit.

We could play alot better game 4 and still lose.

Look at the regular season game in milwaukee. KD was on fire, and we still lose a close game. We threw away a chose to close this series by winning tonight. and it is now like 60/40 we win instead of like 99/1.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Playoffs 2ND Round Game 3 Thursday 7:30 

Post#555 » by Prokorov » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:14 am

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DarkXaero wrote:I'm obviously talking about the last play, and hell no, it wasn't the right play. There was plenty of time left on the clock and there was no need to rush, yet Brown made the bone headed decision of driving with all that space, and taking a contested left handed lay up which wasn't even close. Don't try to spin this into the "right play" ffs.


Not close? it hit the rim.


it was a broken play off a near turnover on the inbounds, after a trap on Kyrie, with an open lane. If you dont want him taking that shot dont put him on the floor.
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It actually didn't even hit the rim :lol: :lol:


Broken play, nearly turned over. under 10 seconds. clear lane. you cant be upset if brown does that. again, if you dont want him shooting (especially after you just saw them force him to shoot the prior possesion) dont have him in the game.

Also, you have a timeout. Once you see its a broken play, run to the official and use it.
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Post#556 » by enetric » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:17 am

Just read through the last few pages. Obviously, Brown took a lot of the hits from you guys tonight. Some blaming Nash for him being in, others simply blaming Brown for missed shots.

While I understand those comments, oddly when the game ended I wasn't even thinking about Brown. First off, Nash went short rotation with heavy starter minutes. To expect Nash to adjust in game is like expecting Linus to see the Great Pumpkin. No way the worst in game coach in this league was going to adjust. He was finishing with that 5, end of story. Obviously, Brown was the one bright spot on offense tonight...well him and KD in the 3rd. And the first miss, the floater from the Kyrie pass in the lane was a good shot. He just missed. And the second one was a broken play off the bobbled in bound pass. Kyrie saves it from going out of bounds, and Brown who was the guy who bobbled the Blake in bounds was chasing after it and was the closest guy. I replayed this 10 times. Brown at this point had a wide open lane, and KD never rotated back out from the far left corner. He just stayed there in no man's land.
He had no one to pass to and an open center of the floor. He made the right read even if it's not the shot you want. Credit Brook Lopez for staying on the ball and he put himself between Brown and Kyrie who rolls outside, trailing the ball and did not give Brown an angle to pass the ball back. There were only 8.5 seconds left when Brown gets control after the Kyrie pass. No one came to the ball for a reset. KD could have cut across the middle for the pass...didn't. So? Right play by Brown...better D by Lopez.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Playoffs 2ND Round Game 3 Thursday 7:30 

Post#557 » by sashaturiaf » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:17 am

Not worried about this result. Would have been good to stick the dagger in but I can't see us losing this series.

If the Bucks have an exploitable advantage in this series I haven't seen it. Keep playing the way we have and the odds are in our favour. We couldn't hit anything to start (like game 1 vs Boston) and Kyrie had one of his low energy games (game 3 Boston) Also Joe was putrid. Just one of those open ones for Joe goes down and we win the game.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Playoffs 2ND Round Game 3 Thursday 7:30 

Post#558 » by Prokorov » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:23 am

enetric wrote:Just read through the last few pages. Obviously, Brown took a lot of the hits from you guys tonight. Some blaming Nash for him being in, others simply blaming Brown for missed shots.

While I understand those comments, oddly when the game ended I wasn't even thinking about Brown. First off, Nash went short rotation with heavy starter minutes. To expect Nash to adjust in game is like expecting Linus to see the Great Pumpkin. No way the worst in game coach in this league was going to adjust. He was finishing with that 5, end of story. Obviously, Brown was the one bright spot on offense tonight...well him and KD in the 3rd. And the first miss, the floater from the Kyrie pass in the lane was a good shot. He just missed. And the second one was a broken play off the bobbled in bound pass. Kyrie saves it from going out of bounds, and Brown who was the guy who bobbled the Blake in bounds was chasing after it and was the closest guy. I replayed this 10 times. Brown at this point had a wide open lane, and KD never rotated back out from the far left corner. He just stayed there in no man's land.
He had no one to pass to and an open center of the floor. He made the right read even if it's not the shot you want. Credit Brook Lopez for staying on the ball and he put himself between Brown and Kyrie who rolls outside, trailing the ball and did not give Brown an angle to pass the ball back. There were only 8.5 seconds left when Brown gets control after the Kyrie pass. No one came to the ball for a reset. KD could have cut across the middle for the pass...didn't. So? Right play by Brown...better D by Lopez.


Spot on.

Both times Brown shoots, its with 10 seconds or less on the shot/game clock, After the ball ends up in his hands as not the primary option, with a lane in front of him to the kind of shot he is routinely asked to take.

As a coach, you have to at least anticipate, that there is a 50/50 probability it is going to end up with Brown shooting the ball, especially if you are using him to screen for the ball handler. The first possession, at the very least, you have to assume is a high probability of Brown getting it in an area where he has the green light to shoot.

Second one, broken play, chaos... less on the coaching. but again, your down by 1. less then 24 seconds on the clock and your coming out of a timeout. Why don't you have an all-offense lineup on the floor? Why are you preparing your team:

"guys we have 10-12 seconds. if we cant inbound it, call a timeout. if we get trapped, call a timeout. if it breaks down, call a timeout". or when you see kyrie save it after it nearly rolls out of bounds, run to the ref and call a timeout.

Brown is the last person to be blamed. If you want KD/Kyie to get that shot... then run a Kyrie/KD pick and roll. where they either need to switch or its KD getting it as role guy instead of bruce brown.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Playoffs 2ND Round Game 3 Thursday 7:30 

Post#559 » by Prokorov » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:26 am

sashaturiaf wrote:Not worried about this result. Would have been good to stick the dagger in but I can't see us losing this series.

If the Bucks have an exploitable advantage in this series I haven't seen it. Keep playing the way we have and the odds are in our favour. We couldn't hit anything to start (like game 1 vs Boston) and Kyrie had one of his low energy games (game 3 Boston) Also Joe was putrid. Just one of those open ones for Joe goes down and we win the game.


To be honest, we have had a bit of luck with the amount of wide open threes they have missed. at home you can expect that. but they could have buried us tonight. you expect role guys to be good at home and stink on the road in the playoffs. theirs have stunk in both arenas.

Middleton is playing with confidence, and they know they are 1 home win away from having momentum
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Post#560 » by enetric » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:31 am

Now, to what DID irk me. When Harden is not on the floor, this team relies so heavily on ISO plays by the two stars and worse...both are content to look for mid range 2's with zero chance of contact. Low post basketball is dead, so if you arent going to look to maximize your 3 point opportunities (beyond the arc or an and one inside) and force the D to spread the floor off good ball movement, more often than not you are relying on one thing. Make more shots than they do lol. And for the first 2 games, Bucks couldn't hit squat from the outside or make free throws. So we didn't have to pay the price for some of our decisions. Yes, we were much better in game 2 than 1...but it was still a case of being hot, and the other team missing plenty of easy looks. Tonight we were cold, and did not execute. I think we played better D tonight after the first quarter, KD and Kyrie each had a little stretch of making shots and we got back in. We know "the others" for any NBA team are inconsistent on the road and you just hope for one guy to step up. That was Brown tonight. At best credit effort on D for the rest of the others.

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